My upcoming ILR Application

[benhuang]

You all will be in the same ACCOUNT. Your wife will create an account and fill her form first as the main applicant. Then the same account will let you add as a partner or child etc. Then you will fill your form and children forms individually choosing the correct categories as stated in my last post.

Dear Cullinan,

Thank you.

Yes, I have done exactly the same as what you suggested. I created an account for my wife first as the main applicant. Then the same account asked me whether I want to add as a dependant and the relationship to the main applicant and i have finished filling up all my information and my 2 sons information accordingly. But i did not come to the page where I have the chance to tick the category "Tier 1 or Appendix W dependants" as suggested by you.

May I know where did i go wrong? Do I need to remove all the 3 dependants and start again?

Kind regards

Ben

[CULLINAN]

The attachments are if you were to run a dummy application as a dependent in a single account.

However, you did it right also as you added yourself as a partner and kids as Child below 18 or 18+ accordingly as per your situation. I am assuming this is how the layout of the form is i.e. not to ask the category individually after selecting the “relationship” at the “adding an applicant” stage.

I do not have the sight to your form as I can only reach to the “add another applicant” stage after filling the main applicant’s form first.


So my question is:

May I know, if it asked about your wife’s details (as the sponsor) for yourself and kids individually in your own forms?

[benhuang]

The attachments are if you were to run a dummy application as a dependent in a single account.

However, you did it right also as you added yourself as a partner and kids as Child below 18 or 18+ accordingly as per your situation. I am assuming this is how the layout of the form is i.e. not to ask the category individually after selecting the “relationship” at the “adding an applicant” stage.

I do not have the sight to your form as I can only reach to the “add another applicant” stage after filling the main applicant’s form first.


So my question is:

May I know, if it asked about your wife’s details (as the sponsor) for yourself and kids individually in your own forms?

Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your prompt reply.

First of all, i want to clarify some of the doubts you may have on the actually Set (O):

1.After "add another applicant" for myself, the form ask me "What is your relationship to the main applicant? and my answer is Spouse " and when I "add another applicant" for my 2 kids, i filled up the relationship as "son" accordingly.....

2.For each dependant, the form asked for date of birth, but never ask whether my kids are below 18 or 18+ (Note: both my kid turned full 18 year old in April 2002)

3.I expect the form dependant section will ask for liuk and English test for my 2 kids, but to my surprise, it does not ask for all these information. I am thinking may be HO looks at Year you are born. My 2 kids born in 4/2002 and as of now, counting the months, they are already 18+. If you look at Year 2002, they are 18 and below, so they dont need any liuk and English test. Please confirm i am correct, otherwise, i think i am filling up the wrong form.

4.However. the form did ask me for my liuk and English proficiency details.

5.it did not ask about my wife’s details (as the sponsor) for myself and kids individually in our own forms.

6. Do you think, I need to change the category for my wife to "Tier 1 or Appendix W dependants" ?? so that I will get the results you expected.

It looks like some of the experience of filling up Set(O) is inconsistent with what you have expected. I am worried now.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards

Ben

[benhuang]

Dear Cullinan,

As per previous message to you:
2.For each dependant, the form asked for date of birth, but never ask whether my kids are below 18 or 18+ (Note: both my kid turned full 18 year old in April 2002)

I want to make a correction to the above sentence highlighted in yellow as follows:

(Note: both my kid turned full 18 year old in April 2020. Their date of birth is xx/4/2002)

Sorry for the error.

Regards

Ben

[CULLINAN]

I never knew your kids are 18+. I thought they are minors. In this case they should be in a separate account each and choose the categories as stated in the attachment.
Also, they both need LIUK and English Requirements. Also, are you aware they have to prove that they are not leading an independent life??

Yourself can be in the same account as your wife.

PS: For parents children are always “kids” even if adults

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 0_v1.0.pdf

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[CULLINAN]

Family members of Relevant Points Based System Migrants and Appendix W Workers

319J and 319H-SD

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... ly-members

[benhuang]

I never knew your kids are 18+. I thought they are minors. In this case they should be in a separate account each and choose the categories as stated in the attachment.
Also, they both need LIUK and English Requirements. Also, are you aware they have to prove that they are not leading an independent life??

Yourself can be in the same account as your wife.

PS: For parents children are always “kids” even if adults

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 0_v1.0.pdf

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Dear Cullinan,

I remember I did say that my children would turn 18 at the time of ILR application in another heading which was locked as it was more than 6 months ago..... One experienced member had commented that since the child just turned 18, they are allowed to apply in the same account as the main applicant.

May i know how to prove that the 2 children are not leading an independent life ? Can i use their bank statements and college letter addressed to the same address as the main applicant to prove that they are still living together with their parents?

Kind regards

Ben

[CULLINAN]

Well, now I have not read your previous history that is 1 year ago. I am going by the information you are providing in this thread.

Your 18+ children should apply separately. However, if the same account lets you add Child 18+ specifically then you can. Otherwise not.

Also, for the specific documents for your 18+ children read the above immigration rules/guidance as listed in my previous post.

[benhuang]

Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your detailed info and clarification.

Regarding the child 18+, according to the guidelines you furnished, I need to have 2 separate sources for each "child 18+". I would be able to furnish 1 & 2 of the following without any problem:

1.Bank statements dated within one month of submission
2.college letter dated within one month of submission
3.NHS registration documents- I wonder how to get the current dated registration documents from NHS?? Please advise on this.

May I know how would HO calculate age of a child? If they look at 4/2002 (date of birth), then the child is 18+. However, if they look at 2002 (year of birth), then the child will be only 18 on the date of submission 10/12/2020. Please clarify on this point.

Based on the scenario i experienced (and as I told you in my earlier message), The Set (O) form i created for the 2 children should have been barred so that the person are unable to continue after he/ she keyed in the date of birth xx/4/2002 as the children is 18+ and as a result the system should prompt an error message.....do you have any comment on this ??

Thank you once again for your help.


Regards

Ben

[CULLINAN]

Obviously your children are 18+ since April 2020. HO counts the date exactly as it is counted for every other field of life.

You need separate accounts for 18+ unless when you go to “add an applicant” and the drop down menu gives child 18+ specifically not just the child?? Does it?

Forget about the date or year. Your children are 18+ now.

You can provide any two sources. You can provide any recent NHS letter if any, otherwise do not bother. You already have two sources which you can provide as you said.

[CULLINAN]

Adding on:

No you can key in any DOB and it will not be barred. But it is not right to continue if your children are 18+ and they are not added in the correct category. Hence why you do not see any LIUK and English Requirements for them either.

My question is: When you add another applicant: What are the options in the drop down menu to choose from??

[benhuang]

Obviously your children are 18+ since April 2020. HO counts the date exactly as it is counted for every other field of life.

You need separate accounts for 18+ unless when you go to “add an applicant” and the drop down menu gives child 18+ specifically not just the child?? Does it?

Forget about the date or year. Your children are 18+ now.

You can provide any two sources. You can provide any recent NHS letter if any, otherwise do not bother. You already have two sources which you can provide as you said.

Dear Cullinan,

You are right.

The “add an applicant” and the drop down menu gives only "dependant child"

[CULLINAN]

You need to create separate accounts for them but you can stay in your wife’s account as a partner.

Also choose the correct categories for them as I demonstrated in the attachments above. The form will then ask main applicant’s details (your wife’s) which will sync their applications with the main applicant.

[benhuang]

Obviously your children are 18+ since April 2020. HO counts the date exactly as it is counted for every other field of life.

You need separate accounts for 18+ unless when you go to “add an applicant” and the drop down menu gives child 18+ specifically not just the child?? Does it?

Forget about the date or year. Your children are 18+ now.

You can provide any two sources. You can provide any recent NHS letter if any, otherwise do not bother. You already have two sources which you can provide as you said.

Dear Cullinan,

You are right. The “add an applicant” and the drop down menu gives only "dependant child" , that means I have to create another account each for the 2 children. Sorry I tried to screenshot and attach as a pdf file for your reference, but the error message says invalid file.

I will follow your advise. May I know if I created another account each for the two 18+ child, would the separate accounts delay or affecting the HO approving process.

[CULLINAN]

No. But it is not necessary that all applications will be processed on the same date. First your wife’s application will be decided. Her application needs to be successful first and only then yours and your children’s applications will be successful.

You have no other choice other than to create separate accounts.


Although it will be separate accounts, you will have to book biometrics and upload documents individually in each of your accounts, but you all can try to book the same date and time for biometrics using 3 different accounts. So you all can go together and save a trip to biometrics centre. Your children 18+ can go on their own too alone and on another date. The above is just a suggestion to save multiple trips.

[benhuang]

Obviously your children are 18+ since April 2020. HO counts the date exactly as it is counted for every other field of life.

You need separate accounts for 18+ unless when you go to “add an applicant” and the drop down menu gives child 18+ specifically not just the child?? Does it?

Forget about the date or year. Your children are 18+ now.

You can provide any two sources. You can provide any recent NHS letter if any, otherwise do not bother. You already have two sources which you can provide as you said.

Dear Cullinan,

You are right. The “add an applicant” and the drop down menu gives only "dependant child" , that means I have to create another account each for the 2 children. Sorry I tried to screenshot and attach as a pdf file for your reference, but the error message says invalid file.

Sorry, i have not say thank you and accidentally posted the message.
Thank you once again

Kind regards

Ben

I will follow your advise. May I know if I created another account each for the two 18+ child, would the separate accounts delay or affecting the HO approving process.

[CULLINAN]

Please read my last edited message again. Thanks and welcome.

[benhuang]

No. But it is not necessary that all applications will be processed on the same date. First your wife’s application will be decided. Her application needs to be successful first and only then yours and your children’s applications will be successful.

You have no other choice other than to create separate accounts.


Although it will be separate accounts, you will have to book biometrics and upload documents individually in each of your accounts, but you all can try to book the same date and time for biometrics using 3 different accounts. So you all can go together and save a trip to biometrics centre. Your children 18+ can go on their own too alone and on another date. The above is just a suggestion to save multiple trips.

Dear Cullinan,

Regarding the creation of 2 separate accounts for the children, can i use the same email address and contact number as the main applicant for easy monitoring purposes ?

Thank you for your patience and you kindness.

Regards

Ben

[CULLINAN]

No. Use three different email address. It will be easier to monitor this way.
Otherwise things will get mixed up as you have to create 3 UKVCAS accounts which will sync with your UKVI accounts individually.

Use your children’s email and contact number. They are the applicants and 18+.

[benhuang]

Dear Cullinan,

I have just created different account for Set(O) for 18+ child 1.

Child 1 has passed the IELTS CEFR level B1......may i know what is the awarding body? This is not stated in the certificate but need to be disclosed in Set(O).

Thank you.

Regards

Ben

[CULLINAN]

That would be the test provider.

IELTS SELT Consortium

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/prove-your- ... oved-tests

[benhuang]

Dear Cullinan,

I have just created different account for Set(O) for 18+ child 1.

Child 1 has passed the IELTS CEFR level B1......may i know what is the awarding body? This is not stated in the certificate but need to be disclosed in Set(O).

Thank you.

Regards

Ben

Dear Cullinan,

In addition to the above, further questions need your clarifications:

1.On whether to check the box on "Consent for the Home Office to request verification checks for joint accounts or third party support". Is this referring to the main applicant (my wife) who gives financial support to child 1 and hence, I should tick "Yes" to the consent here ?

2.When i come to "Documents" section, "Other Documents" are listed as follows:

2.1 Declaration signed by the main applicant (my wife) to confirm consent for the Home Office to request verification checks

2.2 Consent form for the Home Office to request verification checks on the main applicant (my wife) for joint accounts or third party support

2.3 All previous passports, travel documents or national identity cards that you have used to travel to or remain in the UK

2.4 Current Biometric Residence Permit for "18+ Child 1"

2.5 Evidence of "18+ Child 1" immigration status in the UK

My question is since they ask for Child 1 Passport and Current Biometric Residence Permit, why do they ask for other evidence under 2.5 and I cannot think of what other evidence to proof immigration status for Child 1?

Thank you.

Regards

Ben

[CULLINAN]

BRP and proof of immigration status is the same thing. BRP will fulfil both.

Also, consent form has three parts. Your child 18+ will sign part 1, your wife will sign part 2 and part 3 for child 18+ if applies.

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf

You should tick yes to consent.

[benhuang]

BRP and proof of immigration status is the same thing. BRP will fulfil both.

Also, consent form has three parts. Your child 18+ will sign part 1, your wife will sign part 2 and part 3 for child 18+ if applies.

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf

You should tick yes to consent.

Dear Cullinan,

Your above points taken.

Regarding this:
BRP and proof of immigration status is the same thing. BRP will fulfil both.
Does it mean i have to TICK both BRP and other evidence showing immigration status? Please confirm

Regarding this question:
Is the account with a bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation held jointly by you and other people?
My answer is NO, as 18+Child 1 holds all the documents in his sole name only. Please confirm

Thank you

Regards

Ben

[CULLINAN]

Correct to both questions.