my nigerian husband recently had a spouse visa need help plz

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:55 pm

after our 3rd try to geta visa for my husband to come with me to the uk we finally got one, We where so happy!!!! then passing through passport control entering uk he was taken from me sayin his nigerian passport is a fake!!!! and now he is in prison and i feel helpless and dont know where to get help from or information? plz can anyone help me?? i have an immigration solicitor for him and they provided him with a criminal solicitor and he is now in a prison being kept on remand but they have not treated him right already as he has not had a his free phone call so i have not heard off him since he entered the prison on saturday and it is now nearly wednesday!!!! plz help

brownbonno · Post by **brownbonno** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:29 pm

If you are sure he genuinely obtained the Passport through the appropriate office then call his embassy.

Nigeria High Commission
Nigeria House
9 Northumberland Avenue
London.
WC2N 5BX
TELEPHONE: 0207 839 1244
FAX: 0207 839 8746

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:14 am

is this where i will be abel to ask if his passport is registred there? or is that where they will find out for me from nigeria??? as you can probably tell im clueless on what to do thx u so much

Mr Rusty · Post by **Mr Rusty** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:51 am

If he's remanded to prison (and not just detained in an immigration detention centre) he's obviously been charged with a criminal offence. That's not to say he's guilty, but I doubt whether he would have been charged unless there was the strongest evidence that there is something wrong with the document.
Foreigners detained in a police station or prison do have a right to speak to their embassy or high commission. He might not want to do this, or want you to do this. I also wonder whether you haven't had a call from him because he doesn't want to, as once a detainee has been interviewed for the offence they are normally allowed to make phone calls. (Their only right before that is to have someone informed of their arrest).
The criminal solicitor must have had some sort of disclosure from the police or Crown Prosecution Service. I would recommend that you speak to him/her in the first instance, as it should be possible to give you some idea of the case against him and what happens next.

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:09 am

yes tehy have a criminal offence on him, his crown court hearing isnt till 8th december adn his criminal solicitor well i dotn feel confident taht she is doing teh best for him!! and he hasnt called me or hsi family and i know from teh bottom of my heart he would have doen so if allowed or told.

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:17 am

nathalie wrote:yes tehy have a criminal offence on him, his crown court hearing isnt till 8th december adn his criminal solicitor well i dotn feel confident taht she is doing teh best for him!! and he hasnt called me or hsi family and i know from teh bottom of my heart he would have doen so if allowed or told.

If it is related to immigration matters, would you mind giving us information about what the offence is, or is it a non-immigration related offence? If it is immigration-related, someone here might be able to offer some guidance.

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:28 am

they said on arrival at airport that his passport came up as a lost pasport at first so then they checked it and said it was a fake!! that is why he has been put on remand for usin a fake nigerian passport witch he believed to be from the immigration in nigeria , hope someone can help im so low and cant begin to imagne how low my husband is feeling. thx

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:30 am

i was with him and my 3 children we all flew into the airport together jsut incase anyoen is wondering? and even though where married immigration wouldnt let me know what was going on with him untill i got a immigration solicitor whiel i was waitinga t the airport for it to be sorted out!!!

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:37 am

nathalie wrote:they said on arrival at airport that his passport came up as a lost pasport at first so then they checked it and said it was a fake!! that is why he has been put on remand for usin a fake nigerian passport witch he believed to be from the immigration in nigeria , hope someone can help im so low and cant begin to imagne how low my husband is feeling. thx

Did he apply for a new passport in Nigeria or in the UK? What is his immigration history (was he in the UK before, and what happened to his old passport/s?)? Do you have any letters from the high commission for the visa approval?

I cannot imagine why he would use a fake passport after having obtained a real visa. Obviously the only thing you can do is seek legal advice and try to find out the history behind this passport.

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:41 am

he applied to immigration i n nigeria for teh passport, be fore friday he had ever been to teh uk before and i know he woudlnt have used a fake passport knowingly as we where so happy after all teh fighting we did for him to be abel to coem and live with us in the uk, i dont have any of teh high commision letters no and i dont think he has or he woudlnt be where he is now? and he lost his old passport!! iv got him a immigration solicitor i just feel liek i shoudl be doing so much more.

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:42 am

is it possible for me to find out teh histrory behind hsi passport? from where?? thx u so much for yur reply's, i feel lost and alone.

Mr Rusty · Post by **Mr Rusty** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:20 pm

"I cannot imagine why he would use a fake passport after having obtained a real visa. "

He would have had to have the passport before obtaining the visa, which renders it unlikely that the visa was genuinely issued to him. If he was capable of getting a genuine visa, why would he have needed to get a forged passport?

I'm sorry, but I fear the OP may not be aware of the steps her husband has taken to get himself to the UK with his family. I suggest she visits him in prison and asks him for the truth. She doesn't have to tell anyone else what he says.

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:22 pm

yes he had the passport before he went to get a visa i was tehre with him everytime we applied i would fly ova to him he lived in cyprus!!!
the visa is real as im the one that went to get it from the embassy as he was unable to! i dont understand how the british embassy didnt know it was fake and neither did the airport as we was leaving cyrpus. im long awaiting on my visiting pass to visit him in prison. but not yet spoke to him in person!!! and i strongly believ he would'nt have used a fake passport if he knew it was fake.

untill i hear or see my husband im desperate for any answers found

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:46 pm

what does OP stand for?

Mr Rusty · Post by **Mr Rusty** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:46 pm

nathalie wrote:what does OP stand for?

Original poster (I think) - in this case, you.

So he applied for and was granted a visa in Cyprus? There's more to this than meets the eye. I do earnestly advise you to beg your husband to tell you the truth, for your own peace of mind. At least you'll have a better idea of what you're dealing with.

brownbonno · Post by **brownbonno** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:07 pm

The Nigeria embassy Greece can be contact if the passport was issued there.

EMBASSY OF NIGERIA

YAKINTHON 50,

P .O.BOX 65266 - PALIO PSYCHICO,

154 52 ATHENS ,GREECE

Phone: + (30) 1671-8004/7, 1671-8535

Fax: + (30) 1671-8008

Emails:

Website:

Working Hours/Days:

Time Difference: GMT +

Concurrent Accreditation:

Head of Mission: Ambassador (Dr.) Etim U. Uye

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:22 pm

Mr Rusty wrote:"I cannot imagine why he would use a fake passport after having obtained a real visa. "

He would have had to have the passport before obtaining the visa, which renders it unlikely that the visa was genuinely issued to him. If he was capable of getting a genuine visa, why would he have needed to get a forged passport?

I'm sorry, but I fear the OP may not be aware of the steps her husband has taken to get himself to the UK with his family. I suggest she visits him in prison and asks him for the truth. She doesn't have to tell anyone else what he says.

That's exactly my thinking.

Nathalie, if he applied for a new passport whilst he was living in Cyprus, he most certainly would not have to request for it in Nigeria - the Nigerian embassy in Cyprus (or maybe Greece) would have been his first point of contact. How long had he been living in Cyprus, and on what visa/s?

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:56 pm

thx for all your reply's, my husband told me he got the passport from immigration in nigeria and someone got it on his behalf? but if thsi is nto possible then i guess the last thing is to beg my husband as to believe he isnt telling me the truth!!! i hoep to finally get a call of him tomorrow and hopefully he is sending me a visit permit asap, but dont think thsi is something i will talk to him about when i visit as i kno walls have ears especially in prison's?? but.. i believ my husband because i cant see him going for a visa with a fake one!! thx for all yur reply's

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:59 pm

sakura,

he lived in cyrpsu for nearly two years and he was an asylum seeker in cyrpus not sure of anythin else.

UKBAbble · Post by **UKBAbble** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:09 pm

If he was an asylum seeker in Cyprus he would have taken a big risk if he had approached the Nigerian authorities for a new passport as he would have alerted the people he is fleeing from to his whereabouts. There is a huge market in forged Nigerian passports, many of them stolen blanks.

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:14 pm

ok so i guess this answers everything and i dont really need to ask my husband!! and as i truly love him thsi wont stand in our way and i will be tehre for him no matter what.

Mr Rusty · Post by **Mr Rusty** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:35 pm

nathalie wrote:ok so i guess this answers everything and i dont really need to ask my husband!! and as i truly love him thsi wont stand in our way and i will be tehre for him no matter what.

Well, it doesn't answer quite a few things, like how a previous 2-times failed applicant could be issued with a visa in a forged passport - but these are not matters on which you should be required to provide answers on this forum, you've got enough to think about.

If he's been charged under S25(1) of the Identity Cards Act 2006, which is now used against many foreigners who use forged documents, he could be looking at a prison sentence of between 6 - 18 months if found guilty.

nathalie · Post by **nathalie** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:56 pm

well i know for sertain he used the same passport to apply for the failed visa applications twice because i was with him! i am finding it hard to come to terms with the fact that it was a fake because the british embassy did'nt see it was a fake or the cyprus airport!!!

thx for all yur reply's.

lancoalase · Post by **lancoalase** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:24 pm

To contribute on this issue, i will like to say, your husband might not know or have anything to do in getting the passport. what he did was trying to fast-track the issue of the passport from nigerian immigration depot. This is very silly mistakes most nigerians made , by trying to get things done quickly and ending up getting fake and stolen passporst. There are so many touts in conjuction with people working in the immigration office in nigeria that are doing this notorious act. some get lucky and get issue with correct one, while others may be so un-lucky and get issue with the stolen and blacklisted one. My advise to you and your husband is to come out and explain to the Uk authority the method the passport was issue and if possible provide evidence of payment made to nigerian passport office. It is a pity that most nigerians like express channel and back door dealing. This may teach others who will like getting things done through back door a lesson. I hope your husband is release soon.

UKBAbble · Post by **UKBAbble** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:34 pm

The bottom line is it doens't matter if he was the unwitting recipient of a forged passport. If convicted by the courts he is likely to be refused and removed at the end of any sentence.

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