Travelling to Spain

[eera]

Hello all
My friend having Pakistani passport and he has live to remain visa as he married British resident. He want go to Spain next month and he just wonder whether he needs visa? Can any one help please?

[Wanderer]

Hello all
My friend having Pakistani passport and he has live to remain visa as he married British resident. He want go to Spain next month and he just wonder whether he needs visa? Can any one help please?

Schengen visa from the Spanish Consulate. Good luck with that, cos;

1. It costs a £15 0906 call to book the appointment

2. It's most likely booked up for several months

3. The Spanish Consulate is manned by the rudest Spaniards they could find, and that's saying something....

[joelondon]

Hello all
My friend having Pakistani passport and he has live to remain visa as he married British resident. He want go to Spain next month and he just wonder whether he needs visa? Can any one help please?

Schengen visa from the Spanish Consulate. Good luck with that, cos;

1. It costs a £15 0906 call to book the appointment

2. It's most likely booked up for several months

3. The Spanish Consulate is manned by the rudest Spaniards they could find, and that's saying something....

I BELIEVE THAT HE DOESNT NEED A VISA ON THE NEW LAW 2004/38/EC ,u can travel to any shengen countrys without visa , if you hold a uk resident permit , permanent resident or ILR ...goos luck and enjoy your holidays in spain. what u have to take with u just in case ,your married certificate .

[Wanderer]

[Wanderer]

Hello all
My friend having Pakistani passport and he has live to remain visa as he married British resident. He want go to Spain next month and he just wonder whether he needs visa? Can any one help please?

Schengen visa from the Spanish Consulate. Good luck with that, cos;

1. It costs a £15 0906 call to book the appointment

2. It's most likely booked up for several months

3. The Spanish Consulate is manned by the rudest Spaniards they could find, and that's saying something....

I BELIEVE THAT HE DOESNT NEED A VISA ON THE NEW LAW 2004/38/EC ,u can travel to any shengen countrys without visa , if you hold a uk resident permit , permanent resident or ILR ...goos luck and enjoy your holidays in spain. what u have to take with u just in case ,your married certificate .

Wrong mate, the only advantage of ILR is the visa should be free but the Spanish will probably try and charge for it - the dood needs a visa.

[paulp]

I concur with Wanderer. If you try to use 2004/38/EC, your friend will either be refused boarding by the airline or will be refused at immigration in spain.

[UKBAbble]

I concur with Wanderer. If you try to use 2004/38/EC, your friend will either be refused boarding by the airline or will be refused at immigration in spain.

I agree. And a friend of mine (Chinese EEA family member) recently obtained a Spanish visa here with no problem or rudeness.

[SMOOTH OPERATOR]

Hello all
My friend having Pakistani passport and he has live to remain visa as he married British resident. He want go to Spain next month and he just wonder whether he needs visa? Can any one help please?

Schengen visa from the Spanish Consulate. Good luck with that, cos;

1. It costs a £15 0906 call to book the appointment

2. It's most likely booked up for several months

3. The Spanish Consulate is manned by the rudest Spaniards they could find, and that's saying something....

I BELIEVE THAT HE DOESNT NEED A VISA ON THE NEW LAW 2004/38/EC ,u can travel to any shengen countrys without visa , if you hold a uk resident permit , permanent resident or ILR ...goos luck and enjoy your holidays in spain. what u have to take with u just in case ,your married certificate .

Wrong mate, the only advantage of ILR is the visa should be free but the Spanish will probably try and charge for it - the dood needs a visa.

you do not need an ILR to obtain a Schengen visa "free of charge". a spouse visa holder can also obtain it "free of charge"

[SMOOTH OPERATOR]

Wrong mate, the only advantage of ILR is the visa should be free but the Spanish will probably try and charge for it - the dood needs a visa.

I dont quite agree with you Wanderer, A spouse visa holder could also be issued a Shengen visa free of charge if travelling with his or her partner.
That said, an ILR holder can still be charged if travelling alone where there is no intent to "travel with" or "to be with" their EU or EEA family member.

[86ti]

Wrong mate, the only advantage of ILR is the visa should be free but the Spanish will probably try and charge for it - the dood needs a visa.

I dont quite agree with you Wanderer, A spouse visa holder could also be issued a Shengen visa free of charge if travelling with his or her partner.
That said, an ILR holder can still be charged if travelling alone where there is no intent to "travel with" or "to be with" their EU or EEA family member.

Sorry, that I ask this here but can anybody tell where the DIrective (so not applicable to the OP obviously) says that the travel must be "with" or "to be with" the EEA family member.

[paulp]

Schengen visas should be free for spouses of British Citizens. They are at the french embassy.

[eera]

Hello every one
Thanks for all your advise. My friend is going to Spanish embassy next week.

[Wanderer]

Hello every one
Thanks for all your advise. My friend is going to Spanish embassy next week.

Has he made an appointment?

[SMOOTH OPERATOR]

Wrong mate, the only advantage of ILR is the visa should be free but the Spanish will probably try and charge for it - the dood needs a visa.

I dont quite agree with you Wanderer, A spouse visa holder could also be issued a Shengen visa free of charge if travelling with his or her partner.
That said, an ILR holder can still be charged if travelling alone where there is no intent to "travel with" or "to be with" their EU or EEA family member.

Sorry, that I ask this here but can anybody tell where the DIrective (so not applicable to the OP obviously) says that the travel must be "with" or "to be with" the EEA family member.

DIRECTIVE 2004/38/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT
AND OF THE COUNCIL
of 29 April 2004


Article 10
Issue of residence cards
1. The right of residence of family members of a Union citizen who are not nationals of a Member
State shall be evidenced by the issuing of a document called "Residence card of a family member of
a Union citizen" no later than six months from the date on which they submit the application. A
certificate of application for the residence card shall be issued immediately.
2. For the residence card to be issued, Member States shall require presentation of the following
documents:
(a) a valid passport;
(b) a document attesting to the existence of a family relationship or of a registered partnership;
(c) the registration certificate or, in the absence of a registration system, any other proof of
residence in the host Member State of the Union citizen whom they are accompanying or
joining;
(d) in cases falling under points (c) and (d) of Article 2(2), documentary evidence that the
conditions laid down therein are met;
(e) in cases falling under Article 3(2)(a), a document issued by the relevant authority in the
country of origin or country from which they are arriving certifying that they are dependants
or members of the household of the Union citizen, or proof of the existence of serious health
grounds which strictly require the personal care of the family member by the Union citizen;
(f) in cases falling under Article 3(2)(b), proof of the existence of a durable relationship with the
Union citizen.


Right of residence
Article 6
Right of residence for up to three months
1. Union citizens shall have the right of residence on the territory of another Member State for a
period of up to three months without any conditions or any formalities other than the requirement to
hold a valid identity card or passport.
2. The provisions of paragraph 1 shall also apply to family members in possession of a valid
passport who are not nationals of a Member State, accompanying or joining the Union citizen.

[86ti]

Thank you SMOOTH OPERATOR.

I misunderstood the meaning of 'being resident'. Travelling to another member country and staying there temporarily for less than 3 months, e.g. for a short holiday, obviously also means being resident there for that time. (Interesting, however, how the Directive speaks of 3 months while some embassy web pages say 90 days...)

[SMOOTH OPERATOR]

well i would have thought the embassies have adhered to the Directive which indicates 3 months by mostly issuing visas for 90 days and it is up to an individual to stay up to 90 days if he or she wants to stay for the lenght of time in the EU countries. that said it is then a different story how the no return within 90 days when issued a 6 months multi entry visa works as i ave no clue on that.

i hope users will be able to shed some light on this.