CANCELLATION OF WORK PERMIT

shak · Post by **shak** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:56 am

Hi There
I am a first time poster so advice would be very grateful.
I have a couple of restaurants and 3 years ago decided to help out a person from Pakistan and get them here on a work permit. It all went through eventually after refusal of EC at BHC in Islamabad, and me attending court here for appeals.
So briefly this guy comes here and is not the best worker and is basically so much hassle that I wonder why I bothered to help him. In September we mutually agreed to end his employment so he could return to Pakistan and get married. I said I would not cancel his WP because I do not really want to end his chances of returning here and making a life for himself. When he gets to Pakistan he tells everyone (all my relatives) that I have treated him like crap and that I kept 80% of his wages. He also said that I made him work 7 days a week, 14 hours per day and paid him like Â£2 per hour. All of this very untrue. He was treated very very well.
So I find out from a friend that he decides to come back to a different part of the UK after 3 weeks in Pakistan without telling me.
I am annoyed because it is my WP and that I spent like 5k getting him here and training him up.
I found out like 1 hour before his flight was due to land in Manchester and I managed to get all the paperwork together and inform the Chief Immigration Officer at Manchester that I was cancelling his work permit and filling out a NPEE.
The CIO of course stopped him and cancelled his EC and gave him 10 days to appeal with an in country appeal.
My question is now what can he do or what is the process now.
He will appeal and try and get another WP but will he have to return to Pakistan to get EC or can he stay here.
If he stays here and does not appeal then is he and illegal.
Thanks for advice.
Sorry for going on for so long.

Sushil-ACCA · Post by **Sushil-ACCA** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:40 am

U HAVE REPORTED FOR your right and now his luck

either fight or get new sponsor or go back home

as a good person now u should not plan to scuttle his future

what was your right u have execised by reporting authorities to cancel his workpermit

UKBAbble · Post by **UKBAbble** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:51 pm

He should have his appeal dismissed and return to apply afresh.

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:13 pm

shak wrote:I said I would not cancel his WP because I do not really want to end his chances of returning here and making a life for himself.

If he is no longer employed by you, you should have cancelled his WP rather than allow him to use it to find other employment. You can only use a work permit for the job it was given for. If he had left the UK and had no job, then his right to remain in the UK was/is no longer valid So, IMO, you were wrong to allow him the opportunity to return to the UK after you had let him go.

1971 · Post by **1971** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:28 pm

Hi,

Man to Man is unjust. If you truly want to help him, why did you not cancel the WP as soon as he stopped working for you?

An eye for an eye will make the world go blind.

Cheers.
1971.

Post by **Frontier Mole** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:57 pm

He has not got a hope with any appeal.

As for continuing to work unless he meets the new points based system when he returns he will not get back into the UK. If he is a chef earning more than Â£8.10 an hour he will have a chance to get back.

republique · Post by **republique** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:18 am

shak wrote: The CIO of course stopped him and cancelled his EC and gave him 10 days to appeal with an in country appeal.
My question is now what can he do or what is the process now.
He will appeal and try and get another WP but will he have to return to Pakistan to get EC or can he stay here.
If he stays here and does not appeal then is he and illegal.
Thanks for advice.
Sorry for going on for so long.

So what is your concern exactly?
You cancelled the permit, it is his problem if he appeals or is illegal.
Favour or no, I think it is pretty lame that you would cancel his permit one hour before take off but I guess what goes around comes around and if he was so stupid to badmouth you, if that is the case, I guess he got what was coming to him.

shak · Post by **shak** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:31 am

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Sushil-ACCA · Post by **Sushil-ACCA** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:23 am

DONT try to be god - who control everything

when he was useless , why u have not reported to autoritises ?

u r taking revenge of his bad mouthing to yr reputation in Pakistan

man what is happening here is known to asia faster than us

this is work / money / survival game of life

if he was knowing yr relatives than defantely u were knowing him

so yr argument are falase that he was not even fit to cut oninions as u were knowing it in advance

allow people to live

dont try to be god , let god do this job -control of some ones destiny

regards

bani · Post by **bani** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:22 pm

shak wrote: I said I would not cancel his WP because I do not really want to end his chances of returning here and making a life for himself.

You really should have cancelled it right away. Letting him come back and work for someone else under the WP you sponsored is illegal.

It's good you cancelled the WP eventually, but why did you let him get on that flight?? Now he is stuck here forced to appeal or be an illegal immigrant.

bani · Post by **bani** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:25 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:
dont try to be god , let god do this job -control of some ones destiny

regards

Cancelling a WP is not God's job. It's the right/duty of the employer. And we each choose how our life will go - make the right or wrong immigration choices. There's no need to get preachy and religious here.

Sushil-ACCA · Post by **Sushil-ACCA** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:56 am

SO BANI

WILL control what to right and interpret what is religious or what is preachy

bani · Post by **bani** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:50 am

Sushil-ACCA wrote:SO BANI

WILL control what to right and interpret what is religious or what is preachy

You make no sense. I would work on your English if I were you, it makes us migrants look bad when you can't write what would pass for gradeschool English.

1971 · Post by **1971** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:45 pm

Hello,

English is not our parental language. Some of us learnt it and so it is allowed if you can't write or speak it well. Be real, Bani.

Cheers
1971.

Christophe · Post by **Christophe** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:42 pm

bani wrote:You make no sense. I would work on your English if I were you, it makes us migrants look bad when you can't write what would pass for gradeschool English.

Well, people do their best, and usually their best improves if they are living in the UK and if they want it to. In fact, it doesn't reflect badly (in my opinion) on migrants if some don't speak English as well as the native population do. What can look bad for an individual migrant is if that person doesn't try to improve his or her English: I very much doubt that that is the case here.

I thought what Sushil-ACCA was pretty clear anyway...

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