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Re 1st Nov - me too. But AFAIK they've not done it. I got the 15th Dec from a Belorussian website and another that just says 'December 2008'Siggi wrote:Plum
I must say I thought the Switzerland started the Schengen visas as from the 1st Nov 08 and not 15th Dec 08.
As for your problem if you have ILR in the UK, you will still be able to enter Switzerland, without a Schengen visa.
No Schengen visa required, so long as the family members in question are travelling in the company of the Swiss national.Plum70 wrote:What about family members of Swiss nationals holding a UK Residence Documentation to this effect? Does anyone know if a schengen visa will still be required?
Yeah my gf although native Russian speaks what I consider fluent German, started working for a Swiss company. They're all on the phone speaking Swiss-German and she is struggling with it, although they speak German-German in the office. She Austrian-German almost the same but although she's getting it now Swiss-German was a bit more uphill!Siggi wrote:My Father was German speaking from Namibia and I too speak German, with a Schwabish accent, Swiss German is very heavy and most Northern Germans will battle to understand it, but southern Germans find it esasier to understand.
Not the case. The Swiss Embassies will be issuing Swiss visas throughout the transition period (up till 30th Nov.) to assist those families who have planned to travel during the switch over to the schengen.Siggi wrote:Plum
I must say I thought the Switzerland started the Schengen visas as from the 1st Nov 08 and not 15th Dec 08.
As for your problem if you have ILR in the UK, you will still be able to enter Switzerland, without a Schengen visa.
It seems I have, rather stupidly, forgotten that Switzerland is not an EU Member State, and so Directive 2004/38/EC does not apply.Plum70 wrote:Benifa: Nowhere have I seen the visa-free concession for spouses of Swiss/EEA nationals in possession of a UKRC travelling to Switzerland with/to join their spouses. Do you have a link to an online resource I can peruse?
I have found this though, which *I believe* provides info on Switzerland's provision to provide entry and residence for EEA nationals and their family members. That said, Directive 2004/38/EC does not itself apply to Switzerland, and so I was wrong in my previous post.Directive 2004/38/EC Article 5(2) wrote:Family members who are not nationals of a Member State shall only be required to have an
entry visa in accordance with Regulation (EC) No 539/2001 or, where appropriate, with national
law. For the purposes of this Directive, possession of the valid residence card referred to in
Article 10 shall exempt such family members from the visa requirement.
Though Switzerland is not part of the EU, Swiss nationals do enjoy similar rights as EU/EEA Nationals due to the 7 bilateral agreements between Switz. and the EU/EEA, one of which is the' free movement of persons' (came into force 1 June 2002).It seems I have, rather stupidly, forgotten that Switzerland is not an EU Member State, and so Directive 2004/38/EC does not apply
No sweat! At least you tried n'est ce pas?I'm not experienced at all with Switzerland, and since it's not part of the EU and not subject to the Directive, I'm out of my depth. Signing off.
Yes that's right if they get the green light on Nov 27/28 from the EU.Siggi wrote:86ti
If I understand this correctly the Swiss are saying provisionally the Schengen agreement will be inforced as from the 12/12/08 on all land boarders and from March 09 at airports.
The article is very short on details so I wouldn't try to interpret too much into it. The Swiss are confident to join by the dates given at least technically. They do not see any political hurdles. The EU made it clear again in their last meeting with the Swiss on Fri Oct 31 that freedom of movement is an essential part of the Schengen agreement. I cannot read any hesitation from the Swiss side into the article, quite on the contrary. The article doesn't make it clear what the Swiss think about free movement or if there would be any particular objections.Siggi wrote:Please correct if I wrong, it also seems like the Swiss are hesitant on the final decision to join that from your article.
correct that border there is too many legitimate people going back on forth to insist on stamping each and every passportSiggi wrote:Hi Plum 70,
I have used Geneva airport a lot in the last six months and from my personal experience, they dont even stamp your passport.I travel a on SA with ILR and one one year multi entery Schengen.
I wouldnt worry about trying to get the 1st stamp in France, if you are asked again by the French just tell you have been to France but on the 1st entery they never stamped you in.No probs as they know not all entry ports stamp you in.
