Holiday Work Maker Visa Question

[Jaspal]

Hello,

My cousin is here in the UK on a Holiday Workmaker Visa, he will be completing 12 months in December, and has 12 months left.

As per the new tier system introduced, I am aware that this Visa no longer exists.

My question is:

Can he still convert or switch to a work permit from within the UK?

Also, would he need to return to India if he were to apply for a Skilled Worker Visa in Canada or Australia?

Bottom line is, he has had a taste of the "good life" outside India, and now would like to settle in the UK, Canada or Australia and make a good life for himself.

Any advice, pointers will be helpful.


Thank you.


Jas.

ps. Excellent Website. Keep up the good work.

[vinny]

Can he still convert or switch to a work permit from within the UK?

Unfortunately,

The work permit arrangements closed on 26 November 2008. It has been replaced by tier 2 of the points-based system.

[SKUK]

Hello,

My cousin is here in the UK on a Holiday Workmaker Visa, he will be completing 12 months in December, and has 12 months left.

As per the new tier system introduced, I am aware that this Visa no longer exists.

My question is:

Can he still convert or switch to a work permit from within the UK?

No. See this

Bottom line is, he has had a taste of the "good life" outside India, and now would like to settle in the UK, Canada or Australia and make a good life for himself.

To have a taste of so called "good life" outside India, he has to make the hotel reservation being in India.

[Jaspal]

Can he still convert or switch to a work permit from within the UK?

Unfortunately,

The work permit arrangements closed on 26 November 2008. It has been replaced by tier 2 of the points-based system.

Thank you for your reply Vinny.

[Jaspal]

To have a taste of so called "good life" outside India, he has to make the hotel reservation being in India.

Right...........

[Frontier Mole]

I guess your cousin has used up his 12 months of working in the UK? So he can stay and enjoy the tourist sites he no doubt said he wanted to visit when he applied!!

Or is it time to go home as he will not have a job.... not hard to see why they killed off the WHM visa

[Jaspal]

I guess your cousin has used up his 12 months of working in the UK? So he can stay and enjoy the tourist sites he no doubt said he wanted to visit when he applied!!

Or is it time to go home as he will not have a job.... not hard to see why they killed off the WHM visa

Right.....

[Frontier Mole]

I am so glad I was right, thank you for your confirmation.

It is so heartening to know that those little WHM's can earn a bob or two before they have to go home. It really is shame that the poor wages they usually received did not in fact really allow them the chance to see the beautiful places and fantastic tourist sites they so hoped to visit when they applied.

[Jaspal]

To be frank, I am only here to seek unprejudiced impartial advice, which Vinny has provided for me without resorting to any petty personal comments or dim-witted sarcastic remarks, which in all truth does not help anybody, but only reflects your level of intelligence.

Frontier Mole - Whatever issues you may have, I hope you seek help for them and get better soon.

I wish everybody a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Take Care

Jaspal

[republique]

To be frank, I am only here to seek unprejudiced impartial advice, which Vinny has provided for me without resorting to any petty personal comments or dim-witted sarcastic remarks, which in all truth does not help anybody, but only reflects your level of intelligence.

Frontier Mole - Whatever issues you may have, I hope you seek help for them and get better soon.

I wish everybody a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Take Care

Jaspal

To be equally frank, the comments you don't appreciate, are making a point you want to pretend doesn't exist. The purpose of WHV is to be on holiday and earn money to cover your costs not to work and possibly settle which is why you have to go home and reapply for a different visa. It was changed because people were exploiting it just like your cousin is trying to do so deal with the comments because frankly, it is pretty much represents the HO's sentiment. It would behoove you to be sensitive to the HO's position so that you or your cousin can better understand immigration policy in your future dealings with the HO.

[PaperPusher]

Can he still convert or switch to a work permit from within the UK?

Switching to work permits was stopped years ago, apart from people filling posts on the shortage occupation list. Check out the Tier 2 rules on switching, and WHM is not listed as one of the categories that people can switch from.

switching to Tier2

Also, would he need to return to India if he were to apply for a Skilled Worker Visa in Canada or Australia?

This is up to the Canadians and Australians

Your cousin does not have to leave, he could do the holiday bit of the working holiday visa, seeing as he intended only to take employment that was incidental to the holiday.

[Frontier Mole]

To be frank, I am only here to seek unprejudiced impartial advice, which Vinny has provided for me without resorting to any petty personal comments or dim-witted sarcastic remarks, which in all truth does not help anybody, but only reflects your level of intelligence.

Frontier Mole - Whatever issues you may have, I hope you seek help for them and get better soon.

I wish everybody a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Take Care

Jaspal

I do not have issues, I enjoy sending immigration abusers, overstayers, international criminals and failed asylum seekers home. I get up every day and look forward to doing my role effectively and efficiently.

I equally enjoy ripping the absolute urine out of the people who believe their cousins, friends and any one remotely related can get to stay on in the UK just because they came on a visit visa or worse still a WHM visa.

Well at least you can tell your relative he successfully contributed to the very reason why the WHM visa route was withdrawn. Just think of the thousands back home that will not be able to clean the dishes, mop the Spam and wait on the people they would so like to be.

I bet the quality of the cleaning in my local curry house is going to suffer ho hum

[PaperPusher]

Frontier Mole

JUST because someone is on WHM from India, doesn't always mean that they are doing dishes or other unskilled work. What about all the saffers, kiwis and ausies doing bar work, and labouring in London. Perhaps all the WHM countries have all in their own way contributed to WHM changing, overstayers, WIBs and so on.

I am going to miss the ZAF hairdressers.

[Jaspal]

I do not have issues, I enjoy sending immigration abusers, overstayers, international criminals and failed asylum seekers home. I get up every day and look forward to doing my role effectively and efficiently.

I equally enjoy ripping the absolute urine out of the people who believe their cousins, friends and any one remotely related can get to stay on in the UK just because they came on a visit visa or worse still a WHM visa.

Well at least you can tell your relative he successfully contributed to the very reason why the WHM visa route was withdrawn. Just think of the thousands back home that will not be able to clean the dishes, mop the Spam and wait on the people they would so like to be.

I bet the quality of the cleaning in my local curry house is going to suffer ho hum

Well after reading this, it is very clear to me, you obviously have insecurities and deep rooted subconscious issues, especially if this is the way you think. The only objective you have achieved is you have shown yourself to be a very judgemental character possessing a strange illogical skewed tunnel vision and a disturbing frame of mind which actually believes it is right. Again, I believe you need to seek help immediately.

No doubt you will reply with another intelligent reply. What did you say “ho humâ€

[Jaspal]

To be equally frank, the comments you don't appreciate, are making a point you want to pretend doesn't exist. The purpose of WHV is to be on holiday and earn money to cover your costs not to work and possibly settle which is why you have to go home and reapply for a different visa. It was changed because people were exploiting it just like your cousin is trying to do so deal with the comments because frankly, it is pretty much represents the HO's sentiment. It would behoove you to be sensitive to the HO's position so that you or your cousin can better understand immigration policy in your future dealings with the HO.

I don't really have to explain myself or my cousin’s position. But I however will, because not everybody is a "leech".

The reason for my question was, because he was made a job offer where he currently working as a programmer. He had been travelling around the UK and Europe for the past 14 months (so clearly he hasn't been working away since he has been here), where he met somebody who made him a job offer, which he took, as it would provide some funds for him here to use. They have now asked him if he would like to work with the permanently.

Furthermore, Yes I am admitting that after travelling around the UK and Europe, he has changed his mind and would like to pursue a better life here or in any other western country?

Now tell me, can he not change his mind? Is this a Crime?

How is he breaking the conditions of the Visa?

You cannot tarnish everybody with the same brush. I.e. Bin Laden is a Islamic terrorist, that doesn’t make every Muslim a terrorist.

Again, I repeat, I am here only to seek unprejudiced impartial advice. Personal opinions..etc unless they contribute towards the question and its goal is not welcome.

This is my last post, as this is taking up my time (my question has been answered) and other members who think with 12 replies that something must be happening here might waste their time.

If you agree or not, I don't really care.

Have a nice Christmas!

[Frontier Mole]

Frontier Mole

JUST because someone is on WHM from India, doesn't always mean that they are doing dishes or other unskilled work. What about all the saffers, kiwis and ausies doing bar work, and labouring in London. Perhaps all the WHM countries have all in their own way contributed to WHM changing, overstayers, WIBs and so on.

I am going to miss the ZAF hairdressers.

90% of WHM undertook low or no skilled employment. Which is fine as it is a means of surviving in the UK regardless of country of origin.

Some nationals used the scheme almost exclusively to get their relatives over to work in their businesses, back fill the SBS that failed or as a means of getting cheap labour in general. None of that is illegal.

What is against the spirit of the WHM or deception in fact was the complete lies they told about why they were coming to the UK. The other point that is pertinent is the large number of Indian and Pakistanis that just do not go back home. This forum is littered with how do I get to stay, change to another visa type, if I get married can I stay etc from WHM. Those questions are in the main posted by nationals of India & Pakistan. It is the same in other forums.

There is a positive solution for Jaspals cousin that has not been posted but as I am unintelligent and have issues I am sure someone else can tell him.

As for intelligence obviously certain people do not know how to use the web, if they did they might just note there is a section on what you can and can not convert to from a WHM visa.

So as for wasting time and demonstrating a lack of intelligence it has to be said that someone has displayed a remarkable ability achieve both. If you post an uninformed question you will get an uninformed answer.

As for ZAF hairdressers - the rapidly retreating slap head zone ensured I dispensed with the need of any hairdresser some years ago.
What do ZAF's do with hair that that others do not manage so well