what counts for human right or compassionate circumstance if

[bebe2]

a five yr old girl with celebral palsy born here is been deported with her family, i work as a temp in a special school and see who complicated these conditions are and they think kenya can treat this child, i thought celebral palsy was caused by lack of Spam during birth cant they get some kind of compensation from the hospital?

now i understand the phrase british chicken are coming home to roost.

[republique]

a five yr old girl with celebral palsy born here is been deported with her family, i work as a temp in a special school and see who complicated these conditions are and they think kenya can treat this child, i thought celebral palsy was caused by lack of Spam during birth cant they get some kind of compensation from the hospital?

now i understand the phrase british chicken are coming home to roost.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_palsy
NO you cant sue the hospital if your child has CP unless they were negligent.
Is everyone trying to find a deep pocket?

[bebe2]

no republique just a thought,
thanks anyway

[Wanderer]

If they were illegal and the child was born here who picked up the tab for that? Compensation? More like huge bill.....

[republique]

no republique just a thought,
thanks anyway

It is more than a thought.
First you suggest they should stay for compassionate reason
and then you suggest the hospital pay for their child's condition.
It sounds like a real plan to set up someone on easy street.
Perhaps you shouldn't think aloud and post it

[bebe2]

forgive me for feeling sorry for a little who may never know the difference btw day and night.
i am just trying to explore all avenues that can give him a better life.
here is another thought
how does a chicken feel when it sees a bird been roasted? we are all human dont matter the colur of passport you have.

[republique]

forgive me for feeling sorry for a little who may never know the difference btw day and night.
i am just trying to explore all avenues that can give him a better life.
here is another thought
how does a chicken feel when it sees a bird been roasted? we are all human dont matter the colur of passport you have.

OK you may be well intentioned but I dont think looking for a payout is the way to go.

[bebe2]

did you read the post from the begining? after all the post from other forum users , i taught about another avenue,some one says i should stop putting my thought on post , if i dnt post how can i get a second opinion my thought dnt have anwers so i post. i only readabout the child on a site someone recommended i didnt know anything about them before yesterday. what if they really had a case for compensation would you deny them just because they are illegals?

[republique]

did you read the post from the begining? after all the post from other forum users , i taught about another avenue,some one says i should stop putting my thought on post , if i dnt post how can i get a second opinion my thought dnt have anwers so i post. i only readabout the child on a site someone recommended i didnt know anything about them before yesterday. what if they really had a case for compensation would you deny them just because they are illegals?

Oh never mind
You don't get it

[bebe2]

DO YOU GET IT?

[Frontier Mole]

Bebe2

If mum and dad are going home you know from your research so is the kid. It will be a horrible experience for all concerned and no doubt the standard of care in Kenya will not be a patch on that in the UK.

You have to look at it without any misdirected compassion, there is no difference between a family with no sick kids being removed than that of a family with a sick kid. The legal status in the UK as illegals is the same. Why should it be any different? A sick child is more of a burden on this country and in real terms this should mitigate against their case to stay, fortunately is does not or there would be a greater incentive to remove those that burden the state more.

The fact that the family are here illegally is all that has to be justified. They do not have the right to remain and they must go home. The fact that they have managed to get work illegally and have "contributed" to the UK is a not a factor in their favour. It makes their stay even worse as it only adds to the list of abuses: the immigration system, the NHS system, the education system and the employment system.

The UK owes this family nothing it is quite the reverse - they owe the UK more than likely £10,000's. By the time they are forced to leave the figure will be even higher.

Stop banging on the same drum as the sound does not change. Accept they are going home do not have ANY reason to stay in the UK and the fact that they have benefited in the time they remained here illegally is a bonus. Stop looking for others to blame - there is only one set of blame and that is with the kids' MUM & DAD, they came to the UK and are now illegal. That is the sole point of blame.

[bebe2]

this post has enlightened me in this few days and am glad i posted it.
things aint always as they seem.

with all the bang on of how nice , compassionate etc the uk is(mainly purpotrated by the media) i would have tot a sick child would melt any ones heart.

food for thought : if you had a room to spare and you had 2 people i is dry and healthy and can easily find alternative accommodation , the other is soaking wet shivering and weak who wud you it offer the room to.

forget about the uk immigration, just you.

[scorpiolady]

food for thought : if you had a room to spare and you had 2 people i is dry and healthy and can easily find alternative accommodation , the other is soaking wet shivering and weak who wud you it offer the room to.

The one I would offer the spare room to would be the one here legally

This is a very similar situation to the post about the couple with the autistic child....hmm

[Richard66]

Thank Heraven's this sort of stuff would not happen in Italy, where minors cannot be deported.

Of course it also means minors never get visas.

[Frontier Mole]

Neither would get the room as they were neither invited nor compelled to seek shelter from me. It works the same way at the border as it does at my front door

Get an invite and come in - but do not overstay your welcome.

If you did not get an invite but had a compelling reason to be at my front door - I might listen to their story to see if they are one of life’s chancers or the genuine article.

See the visa and asylum systems are the same as anyone’s front door. You only let those people in who should be allowed in. Those that overstay or should not be in the "house" in the first place have to leave.

[scorpiolady]

with all the bang on of how nice , compassionate etc the uk is(mainly purpotrated by the media) i would have tot a sick child would melt any ones heart.

My dear there are lots of sick children in the world...the UK cannot be responsible for them all...least of all those who they have no responsibility for...and neither can you...harsh it may seem but that's reality...

And make no mistake its not just UK...ask any westernised country to keep all their illegal immigrants with a sick children as a burden on the state...see how fast they would kick them out...we are a welfare state..not a charity!! and immigration rules are there for the greater good..regardless of how people may view them..

UK is in meltdown as it is with the volume of applicants for settlement...to be honest it's not fair when people get here and overstay...work illegally and some even get round the benefits system...and those who want to be here genuinely to be with their partners/loved ones are getting refused....

Face it...these people will be found out and returned...and there will be another lot you hear about next week...