Passport Stamp Flying From Dublin to London?

[GlassPrisoner79]

I am a USA citizen, and I was wondering if England will stamp my passport (pass through immigration) if I fly from Dublin to London using Ryan Air. I understand both countries are in a Common Travel Area, but the regulations are extremely confusing when I've tried to read them. I think they only apply for Irish or UK residents anyways.

Also, if I fly from the UK to say, Italy (a Schengen country), do I pass through immigration in Italy?

[whirly]

I am a USA citizen, and I was wondering if England will stamp my passport (pass through immigration) if I fly from Dublin to London using Ryan Air. I understand both countries are in a Common Travel Area, but the regulations are extremely confusing when I've tried to read them. I think they only apply for Irish or UK residents anyways.

Also, if I fly from the UK to say, Italy (a Schengen country), do I pass through immigration in Italy?

Yes, in my experience travelling on a USA passport from Dublin to London, I had to go through immigration and got a nice stamp for my efforts. Same flying from the UK to Italy. Even got stamps taking the Eurostar to France and Belgium.

Why do you ask? Are you collecting passport stamps?

[Mr Rusty]

"I understand both countries are in a Common Travel Area,"

They are. You may have to show your passport on arrival, but it is unlikely to be stamped.

"Also, if I fly from the UK to say, Italy (a Schengen country), do I pass through immigration in Italy?"

Yes

[rizwan_ali]

I am a USA citizen, and I was wondering if England will stamp my passport (pass through immigration) if I fly from Dublin to London using Ryan Air. I understand both countries are in a Common Travel Area, but the regulations are extremely confusing when I've tried to read them. I think they only apply for Irish or UK residents anyways.

Also, if I fly from the UK to say, Italy (a Schengen country), do I pass through immigration in Italy?

you wont get a stamp when u travel from Dublin to London but if u travel from London to dublin u will get stamp anyway i travelled many times with non eu passport i alwys get stamp when i travelled from London to Dublin but while coming back from Dublin never stamped.

[GlassPrisoner79]

This is confusing, because some people say yes and some people say no.

There is no immigration control, for non UK/Irish passport holders flying from Dublin to London? Would I arrive in a domestic terminal and not through an international one?

[rizwan_ali]

This is confusing, because some people say yes and some people say no.

There is no immigration control, for non UK/Irish passport holders flying from Dublin to London? Would I arrive in a domestic terminal and not through an international one?

why u are so worried yes its no immigration control between UK/IRL. you will arrive not on domestic or international terminal its always separte seperate bisede domestic terminal where usually people arrive from Douglas/ Isle Of Man/Belafast and Republic of ireland some they just ask for ID but still the dont stamp that. Even irish and british people can travel on other sort of id aswell like Driving L. and other proved Photo IDs.

[UKBAbble]

There are some strange postings here. Flying from Dublin to London you do NOT see a UKBA officer and will NOT therefore have you passport stamped.

[GlassPrisoner79]

Thanks UKBabble and Ali. I assume flying from the EU to London, they stamp your passport?

[UKBAbble]

Yes if you're non-EEA.

[Frontier Mole]

The question appears to have been answered but why is the OP interested in his passport being stamped?
No stamp does not mean the passport is not checked - they are two different things.

[paulp]

The OP probably wants the stamp as proof of entry into the country for residence requirements?

Does ryanair use Stansted? A couple of years back, there was a lady asking for passengers from dublin and diverting them to unmanned immigration desks. There was always the option of saying no and going for the manned stations.

[GlassPrisoner79]

My reasons are two fold. First and foremost, I want to avoid trouble with regards to entry/exit of the country. I have run in to trouble not once, but TWICE with countries not stamping me in, and accusing me of staying past the allotted time (when I did not). I would like to completely avoid that, and stamping my passport eliminates any question about it.

Technically, if there is no immigration control between the two countries, I could easily hide out, as an illegal, in the UK without either country knowing. I know I could ultimately provide the e-ticket for proof, but I've been through that before and it was quite an obnoxious bureaucratic process.

Second, I like getting the stamps of the countries I visit!

[Mr Rusty]

The law is that if, as a non-visa national, you have entered another part of the Common Travel Area (principally Ireland and the Channel Islands) legally, and you then travel to the UK, you are "deemed" to have been granted leave to enter for 3 months as a visitor. If encountered within the UK, the onus would be on you to prove that you entered legally in this way.
If you were a visa national, you would still require a visa for the UK.

The reason that I said in my previous post that you may have to show your passport is that there is surveillance of flights from Ireland, but mainly by the police, so it's possible you may be stopped and briefly questioned. Because of a high number of inadmissible passengers on the ferry routes from the Republic, Immigration Officers do attend the ports of arrival quite often, and turn away those without visas or illegal entrants to Ireland.

[UKBAbble]

There is no power for an IO to grant leave to someone arriving from within the CTA. They either have to have leave conferred by a visa or as has alredy stated 'deemed' leave having been already lawfully admitted to that country on arrival.

[PaulM]

I visited Ireland for a few days earlier this year. I travelled from Wales to Ireland by ferry. I was questioned at the port by the border authorities and eventually I was given a visa for maximum 6 months. I was travelling on an UK Ancestral Visa. The guy was firstly convinced that I had come over there for work and did not take any regard for my visa, in the end was sorted out....That is my Irish experience.

[UKBAbble]

That's the Irish for you. We don't (yet) put UKBA officers on arrivals from the Republic.

[rizwan_ali]

That's the Irish for you. We don't (yet) put UKBA officers on arrivals from the Republic.

its just because on each port in the uk there is separte arrival doors or sections for rep. of ireland arrival but in the ireland on each port no separte fecility for the uk arrival pessanger only and the uk pessanger have to cross the immigaration counter with all other EU passport holder thats why they ask for passport. (bit confusing why its like that)

[paulp]

its just because on each port in the uk there is separte arrival doors or sections for rep. of ireland arrival but in the ireland on each port no separte fecility for the uk arrival pessanger only and the uk pessanger have to cross the immigaration counter with all other EU passport holder thats why they ask for passport. (bit confusing why its like that)

To rephrase it, why do the uk have separate sections and the Irish do not?

[rizwan_ali]

To rephrase it, why do the uk have separate sections and the Irish do not?[/quote]

thats why i have mentioned its bit confusing if anybody now that it would be great info.