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Hi,Hellohellohelp wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:30 amThis is in relation to the Transit without visa (TWOV) requirements of UK for visa-required national.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... isa-scheme
(h) hold a valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA state (pursuant to Council Regulation (EC) No. 1030/2002) or Switzerland;
When transiting from another country, transiting to the UK to fly to Ireland, is te section above applicable to the Irish Residence Permit?
If you have official links for this information, really appreciate if could share that as well. Thanks!
Flights to Ireland from UK airports are generally (always?) treated like domestic flights.I don't think there's anywhere in the UK that you can transit to a flight to Ireland without first passing through border control.Angel99 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:05 amHi,Hellohellohelp wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:30 amWhen transiting from another country, transiting to the UK to fly to Ireland, is te section above applicable to the Irish Residence Permit?
If you have official links for this information, really appreciate if could share that as well. Thanks!
IRP is a common format residence permit and you can transit UK to else where or vice versa if you are not going to change airports or pass through border control.
There are two types of transit. You pass through immigration or you don't. If you do not change airports or check in luggages again, transit visa is irrelevant because you won't see immigration control. The rule is that the passenger must depart by air by midnight and have onward ticket. Though you can pass through border control or change airport without a visa if you hold one of the exemptions, this part is a bit tricky and must be confirmed by the airline beforehand.nisi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:48 amFlights to Ireland from UK airports are generally (always?) treated like domestic flights.I don't think there's anywhere in the UK that you can transit to a flight to Ireland without first passing through border control.Angel99 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:05 amHi,Hellohellohelp wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:30 amWhen transiting from another country, transiting to the UK to fly to Ireland, is te section above applicable to the Irish Residence Permit?
If you have official links for this information, really appreciate if could share that as well. Thanks!
IRP is a common format residence permit and you can transit UK to else where or vice versa if you are not going to change airports or pass through border control.
Not necessarily.
https://www.london-luton.co.uk/to-and-f ... passengersIf you arrive at London Stansted on an international flight you will need to pass through passport control/immigration, whether your connecting flight is domestic or international.
The better assumption would be to always treat flights to/from Ireland as ones going through immigration control. Even UK highlights it on their website, if you select that you're going to ROI in transit:London Luton Airport is a point-to-point airport. This means we do not have transit facilities for international passengers wishing to connect to another destination.
On arrival, you will need to go through immigration and passport control; you will cross the border to enter the UK and if necessary, will require the correct documentation or visas to do so.
And that's why ROI has its own option in this visa checker.You’ll need a visa to pass through the UK (unless you’re exempt)
What that means for you, essentially, is that if you have a flight Dublin - London (Ryanair) and London - Istanbul (for example), Ryanair will check your visa during boarding, won't find one and won't let you board the flight - for them you're only going to the UK and you don't have a UK visa.We are a ‘point-to-point' airline. We do not transfer passengers or baggage to other flights, whether or not they are operated by us.
If he is not changing airports or not checkin in luggage in UK, he will not pass through immigration control. This is straightforward. He will be at the airside transit.meself2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:23 pmNot necessarily.
https://www.stanstedairport.com/help/pa ... g-flights/https://www.london-luton.co.uk/to-and-f ... passengersIf you arrive at London Stansted on an international flight you will need to pass through passport control/immigration, whether your connecting flight is domestic or international.The better assumption would be to always treat flights to/from Ireland as ones going through immigration control. Even UK highlights it on their website, if you select that you're going to ROI in transit:London Luton Airport is a point-to-point airport. This means we do not have transit facilities for international passengers wishing to connect to another destination.
On arrival, you will need to go through immigration and passport control; you will cross the border to enter the UK and if necessary, will require the correct documentation or visas to do so.
https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa/y/phil ... of_irelandAnd that's why ROI has its own option in this visa checker.You’ll need a visa to pass through the UK (unless you’re exempt)
So yeah, it's a game of chance. You can try to transit with IRP, but UKVI border force has no obligation to let you through - they can refuse you entry.
Additionally, airlines like Ryanair, WIzz and otehr lowcosters operate "point to point" system:
https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en/useful-in ... 1560777886What that means for you, essentially, is that if you have a flight Dublin - London (Ryanair) and London - Istanbul (for example), Ryanair will check your visa during boarding, won't find one and won't let you board the flight - for them you're only going to the UK and you don't have a UK visa.We are a ‘point-to-point' airline. We do not transfer passengers or baggage to other flights, whether or not they are operated by us.
If you can, avoid UK for peace of mind or get a UK visa.
I have to disagree on that. I just quoted you two pages from London airports stating every flight/every international flight has to pass border control.
I did indeed; got two TWOVs back in the day, but one was a risk and second was more or less a necessity, so didn't do this again, going for Schengen zone flights.
There is no immigration control at UK airside transit. UK and Ireland also have a CTA which makes it also look like domestic flight when travelling from Dublin to Heathrow or Gatwick. It's similar to schengen. You are stamped-in France, there is no passport control in Sweden...meself2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:46 pmI did indeed; got two TWOVs back in the day, but one was a risk and second was more or less a necessity, so didn't do this again, going for Schengen zone flights.
Don't know how does my experience can help OP's situation, though.
While true, if airport has no transit zone, a person would have to leave airside and come back inside, which prompts this person to go through passport control before entering the UK - the "stamped in France" in your scenario. They can request a TVOW as an Irish resident, but it may or may not be granted.Angel99 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:54 pmThere is no immigration control at UK airside transit. UK and Ireland also have a CTA which makes it also look like domestic flight when travelling from Dublin to Heathrow or Gatwick. It's similar to schengen. You are stamped-in France, there is no passport control in Sweden...meself2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:46 pmI did indeed; got two TWOVs back in the day, but one was a risk and second was more or less a necessity, so didn't do this again, going for Schengen zone flights.
Don't know how does my experience can help OP's situation, though.
That's why there is Airside transit in Heathrow with exemptions and even change airports with same requirements.meself2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:01 pmWhile true, if airport has no transit zone, a person would have to leave airside and come back inside, which prompts this person to go through passport control before entering the UK - the "stamped in France" in your scenario. They can request a TVOW as an Irish resident, but it may or may not be granted.Angel99 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:54 pmThere is no immigration control at UK airside transit. UK and Ireland also have a CTA which makes it also look like domestic flight when travelling from Dublin to Heathrow or Gatwick. It's similar to schengen. You are stamped-in France, there is no passport control in Sweden...meself2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:46 pmI did indeed; got two TWOVs back in the day, but one was a risk and second was more or less a necessity, so didn't do this again, going for Schengen zone flights.
Don't know how does my experience can help OP's situation, though.
If you are transiting from Dublin you don't need to pass through UK border control but when you are travelling to Ireland and transiting UK you might pass through border control.littlerr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:55 amAnyone who transits in any UK airport to an Irish airport must always pass through UK border control. This is because flights from the UK to Ireland are treated as domestic flights and passengers must first be admitted into the UK before they can take such domestic flights.
TWOV landside is allowed but an IRP card alone is not sufficient. The UK Government specifically requires such travellers to hold a biometric Irish visa, marked with either BC or BIVS. These are usually only issued to short-term visitors and not Irish residents.
In practice, sometimes border officers will admit certain travellers with an IRP card as an exception, but there is no guarantee. We have lots of successful stories and unsuccessful ones on this forum and on other social network sites.
The latest information on such visa policies is available on UK government website. https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa/y
Click on same link under
Great to hear!spin3210 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:43 pm*I require visa to visit UK*
Just sharing my personal experience, last time I transited through Heathrow in June-2023. I travel with my family every year from Cork to Heathrow to the destination. We change terminal Aer Lingus <--> Qatar/Emirates airline.
- We never face border control on outbound flight. Heathrow to the destination.
- We always go through immigration control on return, just before Aer Lingus flight to Cork.
- We provide passports + IRP card (earlier stamp 1 and now stamp 4), and they stamp all passports and let us go.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience. Do you change terminals in UK when returning to Cork?spin3210 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:43 pm*I require visa to visit UK*
Just sharing my personal experience, last time I transited through Heathrow in June-2023. I travel with my family every year from Cork to Heathrow to the destination. We change terminal Aer Lingus <--> Qatar/Emirates airline.
- We never face border control on outbound flight. Heathrow to the destination.
- We always go through immigration control on return, just before Aer Lingus flight to Cork.
- We provide passports + IRP card (earlier stamp 1 and now stamp 4), and they stamp all passports and let us go.
We change terminal within Heathrow airport. I think Qatar Airways operates from Terminal 5 and Aer Lingus from Terminal 2.Hellohellohelp wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:08 pmThank you for sharing your personal experience. Do you change terminals in UK when returning to Cork?spin3210 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:43 pm*I require visa to visit UK*
Just sharing my personal experience, last time I transited through Heathrow in June-2023. I travel with my family every year from Cork to Heathrow to the destination. We change terminal Aer Lingus <--> Qatar/Emirates airline.
- We never face border control on outbound flight. Heathrow to the destination.
- We always go through immigration control on return, just before Aer Lingus flight to Cork.
- We provide passports + IRP card (earlier stamp 1 and now stamp 4), and they stamp all passports and let us go.