Can a British citizen in the UK claim to be, say, Turkish?

[Richard66]

What would their reaction be if I produced a document stating I renounced citizenship of the countyry where I was born? I am planning on doing it in the coming weeks. I would have done it 10 years ago, but I had thought it was not possible.

[ciaramc]

Richard....still trying to work out your childs citizenship??? Your wife must be nearly due now???

Anyway....I saw a post from Paul??? about Italian citizenship??? I 'm sure in Italy as I'm sure your aware....you child will not be Italian until he/she reaches 18??? Unless of course you naturalize as an Italian ??? Which you will need 5 years residence...yes residence !!! I have had a permesso since 2002 but an ID card (registered with comune) since Jan 06 and I would not be able to naturalize until 2010.......then I would have to wait for processing....which can take an awfully long time!!

Anyway let me know what you guys do??? I think the UK for the birth of the child is your best bet yet!!! Best of luck!

[JAJ]

What would their reaction be if I produced a document stating I renounced citizenship of the countyry where I was born? I am planning on doing it in the coming weeks. I would have done it 10 years ago, but I had thought it was not possible.

That would probably be acceptable. But your bigger problem will be proving to the satisfaction of the Home Office that the child is not Russian. They could easily demand a confirmation in writing from the Russian authorities to that effect.

Are you really sure you want to do that? If you do end up having the child born in Italy, then a Brazilian passport would at least let the child travel to another country.

I don't know if you've yet worked out how much of a problem it will be if the child ends up without a passport from anywhere. And a Brazilian passport would likely be preferable to a Russian one.

If you have the child born in Britain (or Channel Islands and Isle of Man) or Gibraltar, then child is automatically British and you can worry about the other citizenships later on.

[Richard66]

I have a hard time with my wife trying to convince her there is a big difference between being Russian, which, for me is a good thing (or else, why would I have married her?) and have every intention to allow her to teach the child her language and culture (while it also learns Italian and English, of course!) and having Russian citizenship... Russians need visas to go anywhere (we recently needed to go to Budapest via Vienna, because the direct train was via Zagreb and for Croatia... Russians need visas!) and a Russian passport is worthless.

Ciaramc, One needs 4 years continuous residence, the child must be a minor and must live with the parent at the time of naturalisation. The 18 year rule is even tougher: the child must be born in Italy, live here legally without interruption till the age of 18 and make a request for naturalisation before reaching 19.

It measn the child of an EU citizen born in the EU will be a non-EU family member and will need to apply for a residence card and, with this government, migh well end up in the famous "classe-ponte", together with all the children of migrant workers. At least any child of yours will be spared that indignity.

The idea is not inclusion, it is rather excluding non-Italians from the system as far as legally possible.