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Acquiring Lithuanian Citizenship

Post by Richard66 » Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:55 pm

Does the following, taken from the Lithuanian nationality law, mean that a child born in Lithuania, regardless of its parent's citizenship, becomes a citizen of Lithuania?

http://www.coe.int/t/e/legal_affairs/le ... 202003.pdf
Article 7. Ways of Acquiring Citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania
Citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania shall be acquired:
1) by birth;
Aiming at travelling to the UK with my wife and not with an EEA FP!

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Re: Acquiring Lithuanian Citizenship

Post by sakura » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:56 am

Richard66 wrote:Does the following, taken from the Lithuanian nationality law, mean that a child born in Lithuania, regardless of its parent's citizenship, becomes a citizen of Lithuania?

http://www.coe.int/t/e/legal_affairs/le ... 202003.pdf
Article 7. Ways of Acquiring Citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania
Citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania shall be acquired:
1) by birth;
I don't think any EU country gives automatic citizenship based on birth. The last, I believe, was Ireland, in 2004 (or 2005?).

Is this for your child?

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Post by Richard66 » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:42 pm

I believe you are right, but the law is a bit confused.

Yes, we are trying desperately to get our child to have an EEA citizenship.
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Post by mrlookforward » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:00 pm

Richard66 wrote:I believe you are right, but the law is a bit confused.

Yes, we are trying desperately to get our child to have an EEA citizenship.
I have found this info about lithuanian citizenship
"Lithuanian nationality law automatically grants citizenship to persons born within the current borders of Lithuania. Citizenship may also be granted by naturalization. Naturalization requires a residency period, an examination in the Lithuanian language, examination results demonstrating familiarity with the Lithuanian Constitution, a demonstrated means of support, and an oath of loyalty. A right of return clause was included in the 1991 constitution for persons who left Lithuania after its occupation by the Soviet Union in 1940 and their descendants. "

This information was correct on 6th November 2008. So in all probability your child will be a lithuanian citizen.

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Post by Richard66 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:47 am

You took this from Wikipedia, did you not? This article has been there for at least a year, so, I do not know...
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Post by mrlookforward » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:53 am

Richard66 wrote:You took this from Wikipedia, did you not? This article has been there for at least a year, so, I do not know...
Yes I did take it from wiki. I think the best thing to do is, when your kid is born, go with his birth certificate and ask for a passport. Or you could now go to a solicitor and ask him to find the current text of the constituion, or you could go to libraries and find the current constituion/law.

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Post by Richard66 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:58 am

Well, thank you.

I am not currently in Lithuania, but I will go if that way our child can acquire an EU citizenship. You see, I am British by descent, while my wife is Russian and we live in Italy.
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Re: Acquiring Lithuanian Citizenship

Post by JAJ » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:13 am

Richard66 wrote:Does the following, taken from the Lithuanian nationality law, mean that a child born in Lithuania, regardless of its parent's citizenship, becomes a citizen of Lithuania?

http://www.coe.int/t/e/legal_affairs/le ... 202003.pdf
Article 7. Ways of Acquiring Citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania
Citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania shall be acquired:
1) by birth;

NO!

Read the rest of the legislation and the answer will be very clear.

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Post by JAJ » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:43 am

Richard66 wrote:Well, thank you.

I am not currently in Lithuania, but I will go if that way our child can acquire an EU citizenship. You see, I am British by descent, while my wife is Russian and we live in Italy.
There are only three places in the EEA where your child will get a citizenship at birth, no questions asked (as you're British by descent) : Britain, Ireland, and Gibraltar. Plus the Isle of Man and Channel Islands. I am not aware of any others.

If you have the child born in Italy, Brazilian citizenship may be the most realistic and you can plan for the others later on: http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?p=217992

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Post by Richard66 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:32 pm

As I thought, JAJ, thank you!
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Post by Ben » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:21 pm

Great maternity care in Ireland Richard, if you think it would be an option. Free as well.

Plus, that would add Irish citizenship to your baby's potential list of Russian, Italian, Brazilian and US!

Add British to that list if born in Northern Ireland. (Or "the occupied six counties", as some of my colleagues affectionately call it!).

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Post by Richard66 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:44 pm

Plus I do not need to show I am exercising treaty rights in Italy! Would they give a visa, do you think?

Would it be free for us, if we are not working there or would I need to be a jobseeker or employed?

Would the child become Irish, would it be a British citizen or both?
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Post by Ben » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:25 pm

Richard66 wrote:Plus I do not need to show I am exercising treaty rights in Italy! Would they give a visa, do you think?
I think that to get a visa for your Russian wife, you'd need to provide evidence that you have been exercising Treaty rights in Italy and she is accompanying there as your family member. Of course, if she has a Residence Card for Italy (issued in accordance with the provisions of the Directive), she doesn't need a visa in theory (as you know!). But in practice..
Richard66 wrote:Would it be free for us, if we are not working there or would I need to be a jobseeker or employed?
Maternity services (including birth) are free for all residents of Ireland. Remember that you and your wife become residents of Ireland the moment you set foot on the island, and have the right to reside for up to three months without any conditions or formalities imposed, other than the requirement to hold valid passports.
Richard66 wrote:Would the child become Irish, would it be a British citizen or both?
Child would be an Irish citizen from birth as you are a British citizen. The Child would not be a British citizen if born in Ireland, since you are a British citizen by decent.

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Post by Richard66 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:21 pm

Thanks, Benifa! I looked at the list of documents for EEA family members:

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Fa ... EU_Citizen

ON EEA Family Member of EU Citizen

Spouse/Child
If you are the non EEA spouse or the child (under 21 years) of an EU Citizen or the child of the non EEA spouse and wish to join/accompany the EU Citizen in Ireland the following documents are required:

* Application form.
* Passport.
* Marriage Certificate – evidence (apostilled document) that marriage has been registered in applicant’s country of origin/residence.
* Birth Certificate (long form) for children under 21 years, parental consent, national identity card (signed if required).
* Evidence that the EU Citizen spouse is exercising their EU Treaty Rights by being employed/self employed in the State or engaged in a valid vocational training programme or has sufficient financial resources and comprehensive sickness insurance cover.

Visits

If non EEA family members wish to accompany an EU Citizen on a visit to Ireland, or visit their EU family member who is residing in Ireland, all the documentation listed previously should be submitted in addition to

* Evidence that the applicant is accompanying the EU Citizen to Ireland – e.g. return airline/ferry tickets in both names
Or
* Evidence that the EU Citizen is already residing in Ireland

They ask for a marriage certificate and either evidence I will exercise treaty rights in Ireland or proof of sufficient resources and extensive medical insurance. No mention to a residence card. For visits they want to see a return ticket. Is this correct or should I contact Solvit?
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