NO TIME LIMIT Application question

[hussain1988]

Hi guys wanted to ask does my dad need to apply for EVisa as my dad has a indefinite leave to remain vignette sticker in his passport.

[contorted_svy]

I believe your dad needs to do a NTL (no time limit) application ASAP, get a BRP, and with that apply for eVisa. Strongly advise to refrain from travel in the near future

[hussain1988]

I believe your dad needs to do a NTL (no time limit) application ASAP, get a BRP, and with that apply for eVisa. Strongly advise to refrain from travel in the near future

My dad has been arguing with me saying he doesn't need the eVisa can you show give the link where it says he needs evisa for people who have a vignette sticker casue they don't hold any record of email address or home address people like him assume he doesn't need Evisa they will just say no one contacted me at all but how can they if they don't have email address or current home address as you don't notify home office of your address change.

[hussain1988]

On this link it says https://www.gov.uk/get-access-evisa/che ... your-evisa

Vignette - a sticker in your non-UK passport that confirms you have the right to remain indefinitely in the UK No, you cannot access an eVisa yet

But they can access it by applying for NTL which means they don't really need to apply for eVisa but can do so doing the NTL application.

My dad can still carry his old passport that has the Vignette Sticker unless he wants hassle free travel of carrying only his current passport.

[contorted_svy]

That is what I said. He needs to apply for NTL. I suggest he does so even without travelling as he may need to prove eligibility to live in the UK/receive free NHS care and the vignette on the passport may or may not be accepted by some overzealous workers.

[secret.simon]

The rules around international travel are always changing, particularly at the moment. While your father's ILR status is not in doubt, he will need to keep his proof of that identity up to date as required by the law at the time.

Immigration statuses are becoming biometric and moving online globally. As an example, to enter the Schengen Zone from 10th November 2024, all non-EEA citizens, including British citizens, will have to enroll their biometric data with the Schengen authorities. The UK will be rolling out their equivalent for non-Irish EEA citizens soon too.

Also, it is possible that proof of identity in a former passport may ceased to be recognised at some time in the future. That is already the case with CoE-RoA, which is issued mostly (but not exclusively) to British citizens with a non-British passport, who do not wish to carry a British passport. That endorsement is valid only for the lifetime of that passport, even though the status (or either having Right of Abode or being a British citizen) is for life.

So, while having a vignette in an expired passport is valid currently, keep in mind that the rules about that can change. He will retain ILR, but the proof of that ILR will change. Indeed, to be employed or to rent property, for non-British citizens, having a BRP or a digital status is already a requirement, even if one has a valid vignette in an old passport.

So, yes, having a vignette in an expired passport may be valid now, it may not remain valid for international travel for ever. The rules around its acceptance may well change. And your father should be prepared for the rules to change, as they have for other purposes.

[hussain1988]

The rules around international travel are always changing, particularly at the moment. While your father's ILR status is not in doubt, he will need to keep his proof of that identity up to date as required by the law at the time.

Immigration statuses are becoming biometric and moving online globally. As an example, to enter the Schengen Zone from 10th November 2024, all non-EEA citizens, including British citizens, will have to enroll their biometric data with the Schengen authorities. The UK will be rolling out their equivalent for non-Irish EEA citizens soon too.

Also, it is possible that proof of identity in a former passport may ceased to be recognised at some time in the future. That is already the case with CoE-RoA, which is issued mostly (but not exclusively) to British citizens with a non-British passport, who do not wish to carry a British passport. That endorsement is valid only for the lifetime of that passport, even though the status (or either having Right of Abode or being a British citizen) is for life.

So, while having a vignette in an expired passport is valid currently, keep in mind that the rules about that can change. He will retain ILR, but the proof of that ILR will change. Indeed, to be employed or to rent property, for non-British citizens, having a BRP or a digital status is already a requirement, even if one has a valid vignette in an old passport.

So, yes, having a vignette in an expired passport may be valid now, it may not remain valid for international travel for ever. The rules around its acceptance may well change. And your father should be prepared for the rules to change, as they have for other purposes.

Thank you for the explanation better to do it earlier rather then waiting cause eventually they will ask everyone who's has a vignette to move over to EVisa.

[hussain1988]

I did ntl form weeks ago now his refusing to go to his appointment but I can't force him says you know better like his saying I won't have a problem he just wants a letter saying it in writing I know he doesn't have to do it but it would of been better to do it so he has done without the need for home office saying you have to do it now who have ILR vignette sticker in passports.

At the moment it's transfer vignette filling NTL form then applying for EVisa not vignette to Evisa this might happen vignette to Evisa

[contorted_svy]

If he doesn't want to you can't force him. The best advice is that he should do it to avoid possible issues.

[hussain1988]

I wanted to know I have done my dad's No Time Limit Form to transfer his paper documents to eVisa but he has traveled to Saudi Arabia we know it can take upto 6 months for his NTL to be decided but why did Immigration ask him to create an eVisa account as it won't show nothing eVisa not ready yet but I know from my experience when I did my partners eVisa account before receiving the email to say can register for eVisa it said not ready yet that was when they opened up for some people on certain Visas before rolling it out to everyone so that meant it was automatically updated just before receiving the email to show the eVisa status.

eVisa was created so this means his status will automatically show after he has got his NTL decision rather then creating after.

[zimba]

I wanted to know I have done my dad's No Time Limit Form to transfer his paper documents to eVisa but he has traveled to Saudi Arabia we know it can take upto 6 months for his NTL to be decided but why did Immigration ask him to create an eVisa account as it won't show nothing eVisa not ready yet but I know from my experience when I did my partners eVisa account before receiving the email to say can register for eVisa it said not ready yet that was when they opened up for some people on certain Visas before rolling it out to everyone so that meant it was automatically updated just before receiving the email to show the eVisa status.

eVisa was created so this means his status will automatically show after he has got his NTL decision rather then creating after.

Until his status is not confirmed, he cannot access his eVisa. This has nothing to do with creating an account after or before or whatever.

[hussain1988]

I wanted to know I have done my dad's No Time Limit Form to transfer his paper documents to eVisa but he has traveled to Saudi Arabia we know it can take upto 6 months for his NTL to be decided but why did Immigration ask him to create an eVisa account as it won't show nothing eVisa not ready yet but I know from my experience when I did my partners eVisa account before receiving the email to say can register for eVisa it said not ready yet that was when they opened up for some people on certain Visas before rolling it out to everyone so that meant it was automatically updated just before receiving the email to show the eVisa status.

eVisa was created so this means his status will automatically show after he has got his NTL decision rather then creating after.

Until his status is not confirmed, he cannot access his eVisa. This has nothing to do with creating an account after or before or whatever.

I understand why would they ask him to create an eVisa account if they cant see his eVisa yet I think they only asked to create one when it's ready it will show up automatically as I have said before rather then waiting for decision after to create account.

[zimba]

No, anyone with residence document can create a UKVI account. An eVisa can only be accessed after the status is confirmed

https://www.gov.uk/get-access-evisa