previous immigration applications + referees

[Daffodil11]

Hi everyone,
I am in the process of applying for my naturalization.

1. I have a question regarding the question about previous immigration applications:
My previous applications include my ILR application, Tier 2, Tier 1 entrepreneur (extension) - varied to a Tier 2 visa application , tier 1 entrepreneur, Tier 4 student, and tourist visa applications.

If people could please specify which ones of these need to be included for this application, that would be great.


2. Can referees include registered alternative health professionals (e.g. a registered acupuncturist who has a private practice, and is registered with the British acupuncture council? and a registered psychotherapist - also registered with a professional body)

3. Does the referee's age matter, e.g. people in their 70s or 80s (they are still working professionals). Could this be viewed negatively?


Thanks.

[contorted_svy]

Hi everyone,
I am in the process of applying for my naturalization.

1. I have a question regarding the question about previous immigration applications:
My previous applications include my ILR application, Tier 2, Tier 1 entrepreneur (extension) - varied to a Tier 2 visa application , tier 1 entrepreneur, Tier 4 student, and tourist visa applications. Only visa applications that ed to your eventual settlement.

If people could please specify which ones of these need to be included for this application, that would be great.


2. Can referees include registered alternative health professionals (e.g. a registered acupuncturist who has a private practice, and is registered with the British acupuncture council? and a registered psychotherapist - also registered with a professional body) None of these appear on the official list of accepted professions.

3. Does the referee's age matter, e.g. people in their 70s or 80s (they are still working professionals). Could this be viewed negatively? No


Thanks.

[Daffodil11]

Hi everyone,
I am in the process of applying for my naturalization.

1. I have a question regarding the question about previous immigration applications:
My previous applications include my ILR application, Tier 2, Tier 1 entrepreneur (extension) - varied to a Tier 2 visa application , tier 1 entrepreneur, Tier 4 student, and tourist visa applications. Only visa applications that ed to your eventual settlement.

Hi there, thanks for your response, I have a follow up question. Would it suffice to just enter the ref number for my ILR application in that case (as it contains the other applications), and I don't want to overwhelm the case worker.

If not, do I have to give ref numbers for tier 2 (most recent), and tier 1 (these put together gave me the 5 years), or do i also have to include the ref number for the Tier 1 extension (that got varied to tier 2). From what I've seen on this forum, the applications to be included are those that were considered, and varied applications are not considered (as far as i know)



2. Can referees include registered alternative health professionals (e.g. a registered acupuncturist who has a private practice, and is registered with the British acupuncture council? and a registered psychotherapist - also registered with a professional body) None of these appear on the official list of accepted professions.

thanks for your reply... from what I've seen on the guidance it says the list is not exhaustive, and includes anyone registered with a recognized professional body. All these people are registered with recognized British professional bodies, so wondering if they count even if they're not on the list? or do we have to stick to the exact professions named on the list?

I am also wondering if it matters if someone's relationship with you is that they provided a service, for example if they were your healthcare provider?

thanks

3. Does the referee's age matter, e.g. people in their 70s or 80s (they are still working professionals). Could this be viewed negatively? No


Thanks.

[Daffodil11]

I also have another question,
so the form asks for the date you first arrived in the UK, for me this is May 2019 (on the tier 1 visa).

Then it asks for trips taken outside the UK

am I meant to only report trips for the past 5 years (ie Nov 2020 onwards), or the whole time since i first arrived on tier 1 (starting May 2019)

thanks in advance

[alterhase58]

Only absences for the five years back from the application date NOT since you first arrived.

[contorted_svy]

Hi everyone,
I am in the process of applying for my naturalization.

1. I have a question regarding the question about previous immigration applications:
My previous applications include my ILR application, Tier 2, Tier 1 entrepreneur (extension) - varied to a Tier 2 visa application , tier 1 entrepreneur, Tier 4 student, and tourist visa applications. Only visa applications that ed to your eventual settlement.

Hi there, thanks for your response, I have a follow up question. Would it suffice to just enter the ref number for my ILR application in that case (as it contains the other applications), and I don't want to overwhelm the case worker.

If not, do I have to give ref numbers for tier 2 (most recent), and tier 1 (these put together gave me the 5 years), or do i also have to include the ref number for the Tier 1 extension (that got varied to tier 2). From what I've seen on this forum, the applications to be included are those that were considered, and varied applications are not considered (as far as i know)



2. Can referees include registered alternative health professionals (e.g. a registered acupuncturist who has a private practice, and is registered with the British acupuncture council? and a registered psychotherapist - also registered with a professional body) None of these appear on the official list of accepted professions.

thanks for your reply... from what I've seen on the guidance it says the list is not exhaustive, and includes anyone registered with a recognized professional body. All these people are registered with recognized British professional bodies, so wondering if they count even if they're not on the list? or do we have to stick to the exact professions named on the list?

I am also wondering if it matters if someone's relationship with you is that they provided a service, for example if they were your healthcare provider?

thanks

3. Does the referee's age matter, e.g. people in their 70s or 80s (they are still working professionals). Could this be viewed negatively? No


Thanks.

I would enter from tier 1 onwards. You are asked to provide your details - do it and pay no mind to overwhelming the caseworker as you have been asked to provide these details.

Regarding referees, they do say that list is not exhaustive, but it is the only thing we have to go off of - I can't say for sure that the referees you provided will.be accepted. You are of course welcome to interpret their instructions differently. The relationship to you absolutely does not matter. My best friend was one of the referees and my application was accepted.

[Daffodil11]

Hi everyone,
I am in the process of applying for my naturalization.

1. I have a question regarding the question about previous immigration applications:
My previous applications include my ILR application, Tier 2, Tier 1 entrepreneur (extension) - varied to a Tier 2 visa application , tier 1 entrepreneur, Tier 4 student, and tourist visa applications. Only visa applications that ed to your eventual settlement.

Hi there, thanks for your response, I have a follow up question. Would it suffice to just enter the ref number for my ILR application in that case (as it contains the other applications), and I don't want to overwhelm the case worker.

If not, do I have to give ref numbers for tier 2 (most recent), and tier 1 (these put together gave me the 5 years), or do i also have to include the ref number for the Tier 1 extension (that got varied to tier 2). From what I've seen on this forum, the applications to be included are those that were considered, and varied applications are not considered (as far as i know)



2. Can referees include registered alternative health professionals (e.g. a registered acupuncturist who has a private practice, and is registered with the British acupuncture council? and a registered psychotherapist - also registered with a professional body) None of these appear on the official list of accepted professions.

thanks for your reply... from what I've seen on the guidance it says the list is not exhaustive, and includes anyone registered with a recognized professional body. All these people are registered with recognized British professional bodies, so wondering if they count even if they're not on the list? or do we have to stick to the exact professions named on the list?

I am also wondering if it matters if someone's relationship with you is that they provided a service, for example if they were your healthcare provider?

thanks

3. Does the referee's age matter, e.g. people in their 70s or 80s (they are still working professionals). Could this be viewed negatively? No


Thanks.

I would enter from tier 1 onwards. You are asked to provide your details - do it and pay no mind to overwhelming the caseworker as you have been asked to provide these details.

Regarding referees, they do say that list is not exhaustive, but it is the only thing we have to go off of - I can't say for sure that the referees you provided will.be accepted. You are of course welcome to interpret their instructions differently. The relationship to you absolutely does not matter. My best friend was one of the referees and my application was accepted.

Thanks so much for your response
So If write that I'm someone's patient, like a chiropodist's patient, and that's the relationship would that be ok?
I'm asking as I've read on here that they no longer accept GP referees due to the practitioner-patient relationship, as they want the person to know you more closely?

[alterhase58]

GPs were taken off the list so they spend more time doing their job seeing patients, rather than some concern about referee-applicant relationship. If I'm correct, chiropodists are generally self-employed, not employed by the NHS as GPs are.
Some people have friends who are GPs and in that case we suggest they write an explanation.
Friends can be referees, so can neighbours, landlords, ministers of religion, acqaintances, etc. What counts is whether they satisfy the requirements. These are not personal reference written out in detail.
I guess many people overthink this area.

[Daffodil11]

I have a final question, close to submitting

Is it worth adding a cover letter stating that I work in health care, and own a home here, like would that help my application? I know it's not part of the official guidelines, but unofficially, I want to include anything that can speed things up/ be looked at favorably.

thanks a lot for your help everyone!

[lolo2]

A cover letter explaining that will not speed things up and will not have any impact on the outcome. The caseworker will take a decision based on the naturalisation rules.

Follow the official guidance and keep this application as simple as it is.

[Daffodil11]

Thank you all very much for your replies. I have just submitted my application! ahh fingers crossed!

I have a question regarding the proof of 5 years residency requirement and the requirement for passports.

1. Are they asking for all passports for the past 5 years? or since the beginning of the ILR period, ie 6 years.

2. Also, does the passport fulfill the requirement of proof of continued residence (as mine are always stamped when I enter or exit the UK).

3. The only issue with my passport could be that I had a longer stay overseas during COVID (just short of 6 months), but this was outside of the last 5 years, so I didn't include it (my solicitor included an explanation for it in their cover letter for my ILR), if this is visible on my older passport, could it cause issues, as I didn't include/explain it.

4. My other question is about the referee form... my referees are not so tech savvy, so is it better to upload a digital photo and then print it for them to sign and scan it, or better to get a paper photograph (to avoid graininess from printing/re-scanning)?

thanks

[Daffodil11]

Oh also does the degree certificate (mine is American) and the uknaric certificate need to be notarized? (i used both for my ILR application)
thank you all!