Help and advice on what can actually be done...

beale947 · Post by **beale947** » Sat May 02, 2009 4:25 am

I suppose this is the correct forum for it regarding who it's about... It is long and complicated and I just need adivce really...

I'm 19 (20 in november). I am a british citizen born and bred... Currently i'm a student at university, but in light of aall this, i'm going to drop out and get a full time job...

Now my fiancee who is 19 aswell (20 in june), is an american citizen.She is currently recieving unemployment and is living with a friend, however her friend is unexpectedly kicking her out and she has no where to live, nor the funds to support a place to live... her parents have outright refused to let her stay there and basically said "tough".

Now the time limit before she is kicked out is short and I want to do something, and the main thing is getting her here. My parents have already said she can stay here untill we can afford to move out, the problem is with getting her here...and I'm not sure what the best option is.... I suspect it would be a fiancee visa but we are both under 21, but she will be left homeless before that can be filled out i suspect, so is there any other way she can get here in an emergancy, or is the visa the only way to go in this. MY parents have said they will support us as neccessary, but we do intend to work as soon as possible...

I just need help and advice on what to do..It's the woman i'm going to marry

and i don't know where else to go really...

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:55 am

Two things, the ages for fiancee/spouse visas is 21 - no getting round that - plus third-party sponsorship is not allowed.

I think ur only chance is student visa (vvv expensive) or wing it on visit visas, but bear in mind she can only visit 6 months in every 12 other she'll risk being bounced and all the immigration grief that will bring.

Thing ur just gonna have to wait and maybe let ur parents support her in the States if she really is that potless.

Mr Rusty · Post by **Mr Rusty** » Sat May 02, 2009 3:02 pm

[quote="Wanderer"]....... or wing it on visit visas, but bear in mind she can only visit 6 months in every 12 other she'll risk being bounced and all the immigration grief that will bring.
quote]

An unemployed 19-year-old with nowhere to live in her own country would almost certainly be refused entry as a visitor. Not worth risking the cost of a ticket.

Post by **batleykhan** » Sat May 02, 2009 5:17 pm

Unemployed.... not wanted by parents.... kicked out by friends... no where to live,,,,,, to be honest with you , I would be wary of her intention to join you in the UK.

Sorry to be cruel, but you need to think carefully what you want to do before you actually do it.

beale947 · Post by **beale947** » Sat May 02, 2009 5:53 pm

Well we have been engaged for 8 months... and all this happened recently...so no i don't need to be warey thank you very much...

Doesn't that violate her human rights to be sent back to the us with no where to live, no job and no money (so no food or water)...

ciaramc · Post by **ciaramc** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:02 pm

Don't think it is going to violate her HR, well maybe if she was being sent back to a war torn country and not the US! So think that is a no go! People actually from war torn countries have a hard time proving HR violations!! Can't see how she is going to??? And remember immigration officers have heard alll the sob stories....but they still do there job, they really couldn't care if her parents have kicked her out etc etc etc....

A good idea would be for you to finish studying, maybe her to find a job! Any job as long as it puts food on her table! That way she can save some money, then maybe visit and before you know it you will both be 21 and be able to apply for a visa/or get married! You are both nearly 20 a year passes pretty quickly!

You can both get jobs start to save for your future and maybe visit during the year to build up your relationship history??? Thats the only way I see around it! Good luck!

beale947 · Post by **beale947** » Sat May 02, 2009 10:01 pm

Well if she had a job this wouldn't be a problem, she has been looking for 6 months, but she'll be homeless before that, probably by the end of next week... and then out of unemployment by june

So guess thats it then... she's just got to be homeless then.

There has to be something...anything that can be done, no matter how difficult it is...

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sun May 03, 2009 10:30 pm

beale947 wrote:Well if she had a job this wouldn't be a problem, she has been looking for 6 months, but she'll be homeless before that, probably by the end of next week... and then out of unemployment by june

So guess thats it then... she's just got to be homeless then.

There has to be something...anything that can be done, no matter how difficult it is...

Not the UK's problem I'm afraid.

beale947 · Post by **beale947** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:36 pm

So instead of help and advice, I get ridicule. Thanks, I sure you all must love doing this...

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:50 pm

beale947 wrote:So instead of help and advice, I get ridicule. Thanks, I sure you all must love doing this...

No, you get the Law As It Stands.

UK is not a Charity I'm afraid, there is no help available for your situation, or rather your gfs (or penfriend - have u met?). She is a US citizen, what can the UK gov do about that?

What do you expect, a visa and a handout for her? On what grounds? There are people being persecuted, imprisoned and tortured all over the World. Killed in fact. Genuine cases for asylum/refugee status in the UK.

There is a World of difference between this and ur gf's domestic issues, they are between u and her, u r gonna have to sort it out between urselves.

beale947 · Post by **beale947** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:06 am

Sholdn't have mentioned age, because thats why you all being like this... thinking i'm some little kid...when I'm not...

Yes I have met her, i've been there and stayed with her, so please don't assume stuff like that. This isn't some joke or something I've made up for fun, I wanted to know, so I'm sure i'm not gonna be wasting my time for me trying to get her here. I'll just go and stay there then somehow

Anyway, since all i'm being told her is tough luck, without any advice on anything at all... I'll go and talk to someone who knows something like an Immigration officer my dad knows. ( I wanted to know so I could tell him what ways I've been suggested/found...)

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:24 am

beale947 wrote:Sholdn't have mentioned age, because thats why you all being like this... thinking i'm some little kid...when I'm not...

Yes I have met her, i've been there and stayed with her, so please don't assume stuff like that. This isn't some joke or something I've made up for fun, I wanted to know, so I'm sure i'm not gonna be wasting my time for me trying to get her here. I'll just go and stay there then somehow

Anyway, since all i'm being told her is tough luck, without any advice on anything at all... I'll go and talk to someone who knows something like an Immigration officer my dad knows. ( I wanted to know so I could tell him what ways I've been suggested/found...)

KK, fair enough, so think about u settling in US and getting a job and supporting her, or maybe u going to relocate in another EU state, and then using EU rules to get her with u (EU rules are easier and free and no financial tests). After a while u can both relocate to UK still under EU rules. Not ideal but if it's the only way....

I guarantee most Immigration Officers wont know any of this, they r just grunts (sorry) but whatever route u take, it's a battle, I've been with my russian gf now here in the UK for five years and it's been a fukin battle all the way let me assure you. Many times we've thought about about chucking it in and going to Russia, Germany, god knows where else. But we're still here and it's cost a fortune (30k at least) and we've had to graft and earn and pay.

So if this is what u want, kudos to you go for it there are ways, many ways but you are gonna have to work and pay for it, UK gov won't help at all, it's all down to you.

Post by **batleykhan** » Tue May 05, 2009 5:43 pm

I am sorry if you feel offended by mine and Wanderes comments about your queury.

Please be assured that we are not making fun of you or your personal problem.

We have told you what we really think your chances of getting your girlfiend here. I am afraid sometimes people dont want to hear the truth, and will continue asking people till some idiot will give them the answer that they will believe even though it may be wrong.

This is I am afraid what you are doing.

By all means go and make further enquiries from other sources if you would like ,and if someone suggest any ideas where it is possible for you to get your girlfriend straightaway, please come back and share it with us.

Good luck because you will need it.

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