Travel to Germany (UK Residence Card), need visa?

[Obie]

Wanderer it has been ruled by the European Court of Justice, that what a member state chooses to do with their internal matter is completely up to them. People who move to another memberstate are governed under EU law, using a different yardstick from that which member state imposes on their nationals.

Therefore it is not because it is not provided for in their national legislation, it is purely because they want to violate and ignore the law.

Italy says that Same Sex marriage/ Same Sex relationship is a violation of Public order and hence public Pulicy, however, it does not stop them recognising it for EEA national in the Regulation they used to transpose Directive 2004/38EC.


Most of what they failed to transpose, are mandatory in nature, and i found it astounding that someone has not taken them to court to fight it.

Some great EU ruling like Diatta came from Germany. I am sure some would come to the EU courts of Justice in due course, or perhaps overdue course

[86ti]

So if we were married, all we would need to show is the marriage certificate (if they ask for it at border control) and they'd let us pass.

Yes. There shouldn't be any problems with married couples. Just make sure that the marriage certificate is tranlated/an internationl one or I suppose you could just get it legalised at your embassy.

[marceldupr]

Hi, I am the boyfriend of the original poster and we got through! It would have been difficult if we did not print out the page on the german consulate website as the officer did not initially understand what was going on. The same happened on the way out, but we just showed the document again and 2 minutes later an embarrassed officer would return confirming the site. I would not recommend doing this if you cannot speak the language of the country you are visiting as you will most definitely need to present your case quite clearly. Other than that, worked like a treat!

[86ti]

Hi, I am the boyfriend of the original poster and we got through!

Good to see that it worked out for you and thank you very much for your feedback (that is what keeps this forum such a valuable resource)! Which port of entry was that again?

From my personal experience I can say that German border force does not seem to be too clueful about EEA regulations. To be fair, I can only tell about two separate encounters (the guy in Dusseldorf knew, the two in Munich didn't).