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Marrying Non- EU Person Overseas

Post by sambessey » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:18 pm

Hi,

I am struggling to find specific information, but this is our situation:

We applied for a COA at the start of September (1st)
We started planning a ceremony (Just meal and registry signing) for the last week in November, thinking we had plenty of time according to the guidelines on the Home Office website (4-8 weeks)

We still have heard nothing, and now it is too late to arrange a registration, so our plans have basically gone out of the window.

We phoned up, and need to wait 14 weeks before we can get an update. This is not mentioned anywhere on their website and literature, and the COA procedure leads you to believe you will be looking at a maximum of 8 weeks. Thanks ****ing Home Office. You are an absolute disgrace and a shambles. Glad I am seeing value for money from my taxes and not being treated like some criminal or second- class citizen, rather than a higher- rate taxpayer & law abiding citizen :x

Anyway I digress, the problem we have is that we can not go ahead as planned now, so the question is... If we were to do something in her home country (Namely Brazil)- i.e. a registration, what would we need to do to make the marriage recognised in the UK? In typical Home Office fashion, getting the information I need is like trying to get blood out of a stone.

Is it simpler just to wait for the COA, have her come back on a fiancee visa, and then do it all here?

Also, she is here on a student visa which expires on the 30th November, but her flight to leave the UK is not until the 8th December... Does she have to leave the country and come back as a tourist for that 8 day period?

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Re: Marrying Non- EU Person Overseas

Post by meats » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:34 pm

sambessey wrote:Hi,

I am struggling to find specific information, but this is our situation:

We applied for a COA at the start of September (1st)
We started planning a ceremony (Just meal and registry signing) for the last week in November, thinking we had plenty of time according to the guidelines on the Home Office website (4-8 weeks)

We still have heard nothing, and now it is too late to arrange a registration, so our plans have basically gone out of the window.

We phoned up, and need to wait 14 weeks before we can get an update. This is not mentioned anywhere on their website and literature, and the COA procedure leads you to believe you will be looking at a maximum of 8 weeks. Thanks ****ing Home Office. You are an absolute disgrace and a shambles. Glad I am seeing value for money from my taxes and not being treated like some criminal or second- class citizen, rather than a higher- rate taxpayer & law abiding citizen :x

Anyway I digress, the problem we have is that we can not go ahead as planned now, so the question is... If we were to do something in her home country (Namely Brazil)- i.e. a registration, what would we need to do to make the marriage recognised in the UK? In typical Home Office fashion, getting the information I need is like trying to get blood out of a stone.

Is it simpler just to wait for the COA, have her come back on a fiancee visa, and then do it all here?

Also, she is here on a student visa which expires on the 30th November, but her flight to leave the UK is not until the 8th December... Does she have to leave the country and come back as a tourist for that 8 day period?
No she won't need to leave and come back for that 8 day period. As long as she leaves within 28 days of her visa expiring then she'll be fine.

If you follow the normal procedure for getting married in Brazil then the marriage will be recognised in the UK. You will need to get any documents translated into English though if they're issued in Portuguese. It will probably work out cheaper for you to bring her back on a fiancee visa as it will save you a return flight to Brazil and that will offset most of the extra cost associated with going for the fiancee visa over the spouse visa.

Also, you should've said that you were a mass murderer and your partner helped you see the light, your partner would probably have been issued with a British passport as the HO are so fcuking stupid!

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Re: Marrying Non- EU Person Overseas

Post by sambessey » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:24 pm

meats wrote:
sambessey wrote:Hi,

I am struggling to find specific information, but this is our situation:

We applied for a COA at the start of September (1st)
We started planning a ceremony (Just meal and registry signing) for the last week in November, thinking we had plenty of time according to the guidelines on the Home Office website (4-8 weeks)

We still have heard nothing, and now it is too late to arrange a registration, so our plans have basically gone out of the window.

We phoned up, and need to wait 14 weeks before we can get an update. This is not mentioned anywhere on their website and literature, and the COA procedure leads you to believe you will be looking at a maximum of 8 weeks. Thanks ****ing Home Office. You are an absolute disgrace and a shambles. Glad I am seeing value for money from my taxes and not being treated like some criminal or second- class citizen, rather than a higher- rate taxpayer & law abiding citizen :x

Anyway I digress, the problem we have is that we can not go ahead as planned now, so the question is... If we were to do something in her home country (Namely Brazil)- i.e. a registration, what would we need to do to make the marriage recognised in the UK? In typical Home Office fashion, getting the information I need is like trying to get blood out of a stone.

Is it simpler just to wait for the COA, have her come back on a fiancee visa, and then do it all here?

Also, she is here on a student visa which expires on the 30th November, but her flight to leave the UK is not until the 8th December... Does she have to leave the country and come back as a tourist for that 8 day period?
No she won't need to leave and come back for that 8 day period. As long as she leaves within 28 days of her visa expiring then she'll be fine.

If you follow the normal procedure for getting married in Brazil then the marriage will be recognised in the UK. You will need to get any documents translated into English though if they're issued in Portuguese. It will probably work out cheaper for you to bring her back on a fiancee visa as it will save you a return flight to Brazil and that will offset most of the extra cost associated with going for the fiancee visa over the spouse visa.

Also, you should've said that you were a mass murderer and your partner helped you see the light, your partner would probably have been issued with a British passport as the HO are so fcuking stupid!
Ah should have mentioned that I am going to Brazil in Dec/ Jan anyway, as her parents have planned a part for us (Obviously expecting that the 15 weeks we gave the HO for her COA would be sufficient) so whether we do it there or here does not matter so much, as I will be going there anyway...

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Post by Casa » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:23 pm

In the Spouse settlement visa (form VAF4a) you need to show the following:
The relationship is genuine
You have sifficient income/finances to support yourselves without claiming Public Funds
You have adequate accomodation in the UK
You're both over 21.
The application fee is £585 after marrying in Brazil.Tthis is the cheaper option to applying for fiancee as you would then have to pay an additional fee after the UK wedding (£665 if applied in person) to switch to spouse.

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Post by sambessey » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:46 pm

Casa wrote:In the Spouse settlement visa (form VAF4a) you need to show the following:
The relationship is genuine
You have sifficient income/finances to support yourselves without claiming Public Funds
You have adequate accomodation in the UK
You're both over 21.
The application fee is £585 after marrying in Brazil.Tthis is the cheaper option to applying for fiancee as you would then have to pay an additional fee after the UK wedding (£665 if applied in person) to switch to spouse.
Thanks.

Do you have any links to this information? as I am struggling with the Home Office website...

Does this take forever and a day to process like the joke- form that is the COA?

Whilst I am at it, will Jacqui Smith's husband accept a bucket- load of porn as payment instead of my £585? Might as well cut out the middle- man, eh?

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Post by Casa » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:58 pm

Worth a try! :wink:
Have a look on:
www.4uk.fco.gov.uk
Form VAF4a

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Post by sambessey » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:28 pm

Casa wrote:Worth a try! :wink:
Have a look on:
www.4uk.fco.gov.uk
Form VAF4a
Thanks :D

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Post by sambessey » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:57 pm

Casa wrote:Worth a try! :wink:
Have a look on:
www.4uk.fco.gov.uk
Form VAF4a
Sorry but the link does not work :(

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Post by Casa » Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:48 am

Sorry...typo.
www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk
Type it into Google :?

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