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pahadia
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EUFAM for an Irish citizen's spouse

Post by pahadia » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:10 pm

Hi All,
My understanding is that spouse of Irish national don't receive EUFAM card/stamp. Am I right ? However I am wondering how this can be obtained so that we don't have to run to embassy(various) every we plan to visit Europe.

Thanks in advance for your input

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Post by Ben » Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:42 pm

Your Irish national spouse should pursue an economic activity in another Member State (for at least six months, controversially) with you, then move back to Ireland, with you. Then you will get Stamp 4 EUFam.
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Post by flyboy » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:56 pm

From the Surinder Singh judgment one should either have been economically active or self employed in another member state to benefit from EU law.
However it follows from the Metock judgment that students and self-supporting persons who have resided in another EU/EEA Member State are also eligible for family reunification under EU law upon their return to their country of origin.
However many member states conveniently haven't taken this into consideration. The following danish links will shed some light on it. Surely the Metock judgment is applicable to all member states and not only to Denmark.

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/faq/fami ... eu-law.htm

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_t ... eu-law.htm

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Post by Ben » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:12 pm

flyboy wrote:From the Surinder Singh judgment one should either have been economically active or self employed in another member state to benefit from EU law.
However it follows from the Metock judgment that students and self-supporting persons who have resided in another EU/EEA Member State are also eligible for family reunification under EU law upon their return to their country of origin.
However many member states conveniently haven't taken this into consideration. The following danish links will shed some light on it. Surely the Metock judgment is applicable to all member states and not only to Denmark.

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/faq/fami ... eu-law.htm

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_t ... eu-law.htm
Interesting text there. Wrong though. Metock doesn't say that.
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Post by doesnotcompute » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:41 pm

Ben wrote:Your Irish national spouse should pursue an economic activity in another Member State (for at least six months, controversially) with you, then move back to Ireland, with you. Then you will get Stamp 4 EUFam.
Don't mean to drag up an old thread but I am considering doing this myself. Is there a piece of legalislation where this is written down, so I can quote it when we move back to Ireland and my wife needs to get her EUFam stamp?

I am an Irish national, working in the UK, and planning to move back to Ireland with my non-EEA wife in Sept 2011. She has just recently received her EU Residence Card so this card would prove that the UK govt accepts that I am an EEA national excercising my treaty rights in the UK.

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Post by acme4242 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:38 am

There is no Irish Legislation about the rights of Irish Families.
The Surinder Singh ECJ ruling C-370/90 is >here<

Blog about Irish Reverse Discrimination
http://irelandsreversediscrimination.wordpress.com/
Irish Reverse Discrimination wrote: The Irish Law says, the privileges apply to Union citizens, it did not exclude Irish citizens. Nor put any conditions on Irish citizens.. Ireland is the ONLY Union State to implement reverse discrimination without the domestic legislation.

It appears the Irish copied the policy and procedures from the UK, but not the letter of the law behind it.
Further information for Irish Emigrants >here< Source: http://www.migrantproject.ie

B. RESIDENCY APPLICATIONS FOR NON-EEA
SPOUSES OR PARTNERS OF IRISH CITIZENS WHO
HAVE RESIDENCY IN ANOTHER EU MEMBER STATE

1. I am an Irish citizen living in another EU Member State. My
spouse or partner is a non-EEA citizen. I have exercised my
right to movement within the EU and s/he is registered. We
would like to move to Ireland to live there. How can my
spouse or partner apply for residency in Ireland?

If your spouse or partner is from a visa-required country then s/he may
have to apply for a visa to enter Ireland as the spouse or partner of an
Irish citizen who is exercising their EU Treaty Rights in another Member State.
See STEP 1: Entering Ireland.

NOTE: The ‘Residence card of a family member of a Union citizen’
(Stamp 4 EU FAM) is also an Irish re-entry visa.

If your spouse or partner is from a non-visa required country then s/he
can present to immigration control without a visa.

IMPORTANT: It is advisable for your spouse or partner to inform the
Immigration Officer at the point of entry of his intention to apply for
residency on the basis of marriage or partnership and that you are
exercising your EU Treaty Rights in another EU Member State. Evidence
of this should be produced to the Immigration Officer.

Your spouse or partner should download and complete FORM EU1
(available in pdf format from www.inis.gov.ie) and submit it to the EU
Treaty Rights Section of the Department of Justice, Equality and Law
Reform. See Appendix 1 – Contact Organisations.

When your spouse or partner receives the receipt from the EU Treaty
Rights Section s/he must register temporarily with the Garda National
Immigration Bureau. S/he should register with the GNIB within
90 days of arriving in Ireland even if s/he has not received this receipt.

You should send a cover letter explaining that you have exercised your
EU Treaty Rights as an EU citizen in another Member State with the
application form. You should also include evidence that you were living in
the other EU Member State for a certain period of time,
e.g. payslips, rental agreements or household bills.

NOTE 1: You should send the application form and supporting
documentation by registered post.

NOTE 2: The Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service (INIS) look for
evidence that a partnership (same-sex or opposite-sex) has existed for at
least 2 years prior to the application in order to issue the relevant card.

NOTE 3: If your spouse or partner’s application is successful s/he will be
issued with a Stamp 4 EU FAM (family member of an EU national). This
certificate of registration (GNIB card) can be used in place of an Irish re-
entry visa.

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