Question about hiring a foreign national and FAS

[jpyron69]

Hello,

I am the general manager of a company who is currently wishing to employ a foreign national. My company has had a job listing on FAS.ie for some time now and have not received much interest in it at all. Recently I was contacted by a foreign national who is currently living in Ireland on a Work Permit. I was very impressed by their Cv so I contacted them and asked to come in for the weekend. They were very impressive to say the least and I fell that they would be a good fit with our company.

Here is my question and problem. On my job listing on FAS.ie I am not offering a salary large enough to qualify for a work permit based on the qualifications I have read as it is less than 30,000 a year. Because this person has such experience and skill however, I am prepared to offer them more money to get them here. And he will also have other responsibilities that are not mentioned in the job listing. However, I am concerned that being that the salary I am offering the foreign nation does match the salary listed on the Job listing, that I will have problems when I submit the work permit application.

Should I alter my job listing before I submit the work permit application? And if so, do I have to wait another 8 weeks after I edit the listing before I can apply for the work permit? I would really appreciate any advice as I would really like to have this person in by April as that is when our busy season usually starts

Thanks.

[aswadref]

if the person is on a workpermit already and you are employing the person on the same job title as before you dont need a fas letter and the salary doesnt have to be more than 30000euro thats the criteria for new work permit not for people who are in the country and want to change jobs but if you want you can ring the dept and confirm.
i am working for a hotel and changed my jobs few times in past and kept the same job title on the new apllication form so i never needed a fas letter people who are in the counrty have already been through fas clearance for the job title on the permit

[jpyron69]

Hello, Thank you for your reply. That is great news. I tired emailing the department of trade and employment before posting on these forums but I have never gotten a response. I suppose I will have to call them. If you don't mind me asking, have you changed jobs like this in the past year since the work permit regulations have changed?

Kindest Regards,

[aswadref]

no didnt change jobs but i helped my friend to apply one last year and we got a permit no problem.all the new laws that came in mostly affected people comming in the country first time and not for people who are already in the country.there is no use to email them just ring them you dont have to wait to long to answer and i think now the call center operates only in the mornings do ask me if you have any more questions do ask

[jpyron69]

I called today. The woman confirmed that since the person does already hold a valid work permit that it was not necessary to register with fas at all.

I did not get all of my questions answered however. One thing I am still unclear on is, this employee does have a valid work permit that expires some time next month (March). When you change jobs, does it grant you two more years on the visa or just allow you to change jobs for the rest of the two year period? Also, I have the application filled out and ready to go as soon as I hear back from you about this but what if this application doesn't get to the department of enterprise and trade before the employees current work permit expires?, as i see they only process applications on certain days. Will it affect anything at all?

I asked the woman this question on the phone and she said that it wouldn't matter but I got the feeling based on her termanology that purhaps she didn't fully understand what I was asking so who knows if her answer was correct.

[aswadref]

work permit is granted to the company not to the individual if the person employed want to change his job in future he will have to get a new work permit again he cant work on the same work permit for a different company.
one thing i wanted to tell you was make sure you write the same job title as the old workpermit or else they will ask you for a fas clearance letter, and make sure to send the apllication by registereld post or else they lose it all the time.if your application doesnt got the department the proposed employee cant legally work with your company try and send the apllication as soon as possibe coz i think there is a back log it takes around 10 weeks to process the apllication,
do ask if any more questions

[jpyron69]

Ok, I will make certain I hire him in the same position.

I have the application all ready to go now. I have the application filled out, two passport sized photos of the applicant. A copy of this passports information page and also a copy of his two different Passport stamps allowing him to remain in Ireland, one for each year. I also have a copy of his Garda Registration Card. Do I need to include a copy the applicants current work permit? Anything else besides the above items that I should include. Also, should I just leave the FAS information blank? And also, what documentation should I attach to Part Three where it asks for a certified copy of the employees relevant qualifications? All he has that is certified is his two diplomas from colleges but he does not have them in Ireland. Every thing else he has that qualifies him for the job is experience. I could send a copy of his CV but it would not be certified.

I will mail the application off as soon as you reply. Thanks for you advice.

J. Pyron.

[aswadref]

just say (not applicable) it should be fine for fas, if this is you companys first work permit there is a list of things you have to submitt along with the aplication form they are clearly mentioned in the application form,ya pls do attach a copy of old permit as well.and you have to fill new aplication form not renewal lot of people get confused with the same

[jpyron69]

Hello,

I have sent you two private messuages. They are not showing up in my sent messuages folder so I am not sure if you are getting them or not. If you did receive them then I apologize for sending this question to you for the third time.

What should I include where it asks for certified copies of the applicants relative qualifications? All that the applicant has to prove his qualifications is his two college degrees and he doesn't have those in Ireland with him. The company who originally got him a work permit did not use his degrees. He is not sure what they used to satisfy this requirement but said that all he gave them was his CV. But since he currently holds a work permit should I even worry about this as he had to prove his qualifications in the first place.

Thanks.

Jim Pyron

[aswadref]

i have sent u a pm