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URGENT : TIER 1 UK Visa and dependent

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URGENT : TIER 1 UK Visa and dependent

Post by Prasath_4u » Sun May 02, 2010 7:49 am

This query is regarding to UK Tier 1 visa PBS for my friend.

1) He is short of 5 points in the PBS under 75 mandatory, so we decided to apply on his wife as Main applicant and himself as dependent. But he is maintaining the funds on his account (2800 sterling). That one we will be making it as joint. So that her wife could show it in the main applicant form.

But to support dependent, the main applicant must have additional 1600 sterling. So far that, i am thinking of helping them by making my account as joint with my friend's wife (till the visa is processed). So that they don't get issues in maintaining both 2800 and 1600 sterling for the period of 3 months.

or should i make my account as joint with my friend (dependent)?

Is that allowed, provided we provide the bank statements and letters with funds and their names?

2) As both the Main Applicant and dependent are applying at the same time, can the dependent allowed enter into UK without Main Applicant?
Or the Main applicant need to enter UK atleast once ?? In that case, we are thinking of taking her into UK (i.e both main applicant and dependent) and after that she can leave the next day.. So with that, can the dependent allowed to work or exit or renter UK after that??

Since this is their last chance, we are trying to make something but legally ..hoping our fingers crossed..pls reply.

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Post by alimohmand » Sun May 02, 2010 12:40 pm

In regards to your joint account query:

You cannot be joint account holder as she / he is not your dependent neither are you.

In regards to your other question wait for others.

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Post by Prasath_4u » Sun May 02, 2010 2:16 pm

Thanks for your reply....

I can make my friend as a joint account holder on my account(through Bank - it is legally possible). After making that as joint, we will show a bank statement for 3 months period (that will show both of our names). Also we will show a letter from bank stating that, the amount does not fall below a particular amount for the period of 3 months (letter also will reflect both account holders name)..

I don't think, the relationship between the account holders would be displayed or printed anywhere in the document.

Visa rule only states that, funds have to be maintained in the name of applicant. It also can be joint. Joint states that both have equal rights to that money. Since the applicant is having the sufficient balance in that fund, how can the visa people reject?

Are funds deposited in NationalSavingsCertificate (Post office) can be shown?

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Post by geriatrix » Sun May 02, 2010 4:54 pm

Prasath_4u wrote:Thanks for your reply....

I can make my friend as a joint account holder on my account(through Bank - it is legally possible). After making that as joint, we will show a bank statement for 3 months period (that will show both of our names). Also we will show a letter from bank stating that, the amount does not fall below a particular amount for the period of 3 months (letter also will reflect both account holders name)..

I don't think, the relationship between the account holders would be displayed or printed anywhere in the document.

Visa rule only states that, funds have to be maintained in the name of applicant. It also can be joint. Joint states that both have equal rights to that money. Since the applicant is having the sufficient balance in that fund, how can the visa people reject?
The question here is not whether you can open a joint bank account with a friend or not, but whether such an arrangement is acceptable for Tier 1 application purposes. And, as advised above, it is not.

Such queries have been answered many times in the past so you may want to search the forum or check with nearest VAC / BHC.

regards

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Post by Prasath_4u » Mon May 03, 2010 5:22 am

I checked with bank, immigration and Uk visa customer care. Their statements are as follows.


For Main applicant, the fund of 2800 sterling has to be on his account only for the past 3 months. Even it can joint account with spouse or father or mother. But Main's applicant name must be shown in the account statement.

For the Dependent, the funds can be either present in his/her account or it can be in Main applicants fund. Suppose if the dependent is having joint account with Mr X(who is not main applicant), this is also acceptable. As the visa rule clearly states that, if it is a joint account, the dependent name must be present along with some other individual. We need to just produce 3 months bank statements and a letter from bank for funds and NOC letter from joint account holder (Mr X). This scenario is clearly approved.
Note that for dependent, the fund need not be a joint account with Main applicant.

But only thing which is not approved by bank or government is that, joint account cannot be made with outside family or blood relation. That is, i cannot make a joint account with my friend. Even i can make it joint with my friend by claiming that he is my brother, but that is not legal.

Dependent cannot go alone to uk, unless the Main applicant has not entered into Uk atleast once. They even both visit Uk at the same time. After that, the dependent need to have the xerox papers of main applicant's passport and other proofs.

Another thing is, suppose if the account is maintained by me for the past 3 months and if i decide to make it joint with my friend today and after 1 week, if i ask for bank statements for the last 3 months, bank will issue a statement for that period and that will reflect both of our names.
But while the visa is being processed, if the visa people asks for a verification with bank , whether that account is held by the dependent for the last 3 months and having the funds ? that time it will fail. Bank will say that, it has been made it joint only 2 weeks ago or so.

Though these kind of questions have been asked or answered many times, this questions would still evolve in the future. That's for which the blogs or threads or forums have been created. Its not for laziness. Some times out of desperation and lack of time, we had to get some answers quickly and decide. If everyone has to check all the 1000 previous entries, then this thread would stop at some point.

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Post by s4salil » Sat May 08, 2010 5:42 am

I have applied with a joint account which was made joint a month ago ...
I didnt consider the case where the HO can have a verification check... My application is likely to be refused?

If they give the reason for refusal as FALSE DOCUMENT, UK doors are closed forever

Do they perform a verification check on all the applications?
Prasath_4u wrote:I checked with bank, immigration and Uk visa customer care. Their statements are as follows.


For Main applicant, the fund of 2800 sterling has to be on his account only for the past 3 months. Even it can joint account with spouse or father or mother. But Main's applicant name must be shown in the account statement.

For the Dependent, the funds can be either present in his/her account or it can be in Main applicants fund. Suppose if the dependent is having joint account with Mr X(who is not main applicant), this is also acceptable. As the visa rule clearly states that, if it is a joint account, the dependent name must be present along with some other individual. We need to just produce 3 months bank statements and a letter from bank for funds and NOC letter from joint account holder (Mr X). This scenario is clearly approved.
Note that for dependent, the fund need not be a joint account with Main applicant.

But only thing which is not approved by bank or government is that, joint account cannot be made with outside family or blood relation. That is, i cannot make a joint account with my friend. Even i can make it joint with my friend by claiming that he is my brother, but that is not legal.

Dependent cannot go alone to uk, unless the Main applicant has not entered into Uk atleast once. They even both visit Uk at the same time. After that, the dependent need to have the xerox papers of main applicant's passport and other proofs.

Another thing is, suppose if the account is maintained by me for the past 3 months and if i decide to make it joint with my friend today and after 1 week, if i ask for bank statements for the last 3 months, bank will issue a statement for that period and that will reflect both of our names.
But while the visa is being processed, if the visa people asks for a verification with bank , whether that account is held by the dependent for the last 3 months and having the funds ? that time it will fail. Bank will say that, it has been made it joint only 2 weeks ago or so.

Though these kind of questions have been asked or answered many times, this questions would still evolve in the future. That's for which the blogs or threads or forums have been created. Its not for laziness. Some times out of desperation and lack of time, we had to get some answers quickly and decide. If everyone has to check all the 1000 previous entries, then this thread would stop at some point.

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Joint Account only made a weekback

Post by kskksk1980 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:34 am

Hi s4salil,

Iam in the same state as you have told ..
iam also planing to add me to my dads account only now and apply in a weeks time ..

what happen to your case .. did u get the visa ???

Thanks
KSK

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Re: Joint Account only made a weekback

Post by s4salil » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:54 am

Hie, yes I got the visa in 15 days.
I had taken a letter from the bank along with the passbook which stated that I hold a bank account and the min available balance was XXX and the entire amount is available for withdrawal

All the best ...
cheers.
kskksk1980 wrote:Hi s4salil,

Iam in the same state as you have told ..
iam also planing to add me to my dads account only now and apply in a weeks time ..

what happen to your case .. did u get the visa ???

Thanks
KSK

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Post by infocen » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:04 pm

Hi,

if this can be done, would you recommend doing this? are there other people that have done the same?

If this is possible it would really help me since I am going to be 30 next month but would prefer to apply this month if I can add my name to a joint account to show this maintanance fund.

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Post by push » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:30 pm

infocen wrote:Hi,

if this can be done, would you recommend doing this? are there other people that have done the same?

If this is possible it would really help me since I am going to be 30 next month but would prefer to apply this month if I can add my name to a joint account to show this maintanance fund.
While what you are suggesting/intending to do may comply with the Tier-1 maintenance fund guidance, you might be in breach of Immigration rules on the grounds of misrepresentation. You will be claiming and producing evidence that the funds have been available to you for last 90 days which clearly isn't the case. I would term such an action as misrepresentation and forgery/fabrication of evidence - one can be banned for 10 years from applying any kind of leave to Enter UK for such a misadventure.
regards,
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