Final Advice required!! Expert please help

[raj]

Dear All,

I am on HSMP, Got HSMP extension as well, on £50K salary working in IT.

I will be getting married with my fiance in India this month. I have rented an accomodation and got the tenancy agreement as well which states myself and my fiance will be allowed to stay in that DOUBLE bedroom. I am getting rent reciepts as well.

1) Now my query is do I need to make a declaration and notarized from notary public stating the details of my accomodation and declaring that my wife is allowed to stay and accomodation will not be overcroweded once she will join me this month.

2) Do I need to make this sort of notarized sponsorship declaration to bring my wife in UK??

DECLARATION


Sponsor’s Name: Mr xyz


Sponsor’s Address: abc London

Sponsor’s Occupation:


asdf London

Sponsor’s Earning: £xxxxx p.a. plus benefits


Other evidence of financial standing:
Building Society
Bank
Property

Number, date of issue of passport for identity etc:
Nationality: Indian
Passport No: xxxxxxxx
Issued On: xxxxxx
At: xxxxxx


Name, Address, relationship and reason of the person who is being sponsored:
NAME ADDRESS RELATION & AGE PURPOSE AND DURATION OF STAY




I, Mr xyz hereby solemnly declare that I undertake to bear the cost of passage of the above named person from India to the United Kingdom and to maintain his stay in the United Kingdom and to repatriate him to India at my own cost if and when necessary; also that in the vent of dying in this country, I undertake to bear all costs and expenses of his funeral.


AND I make this solemn declaration conscientiously believing the same to be true and by virtue of the Statuary Declaration Act 1835.


Declared by the above named



At London _____________________________

On 20.01.2006

[John]

Raj, absolutely not necessary to make a statutory declaration like that. Can I ask, where did you get that idea? And that draft ... where did that come from?

But you do need to provide evidence to ensure that it is clear that your wife will not need to claim certain Public Funds, and that the accommodation is "suitable" and certainly not overcrowded.

As far as the accommodation is concerned, ignoring any Spam, bathroom or toilet, how many rooms in the place exceed 50 square feet in size? And assuming the visa is granted, how many people will be occupying that accommodation? Just two adults?

[raj]

Hi John,

The Idea came from my fiance who happens to live in Birmingham itself, the draft came from her as one of her uncle used this sponsorship form to call his father in UK.

I myself is not convinced that I need to make such statutory declaration, I never heard of this sort of declration required for HSMP dependent visa.

The evidence which I would be providing for ensuring my wife will not be claiming public funds is the 10 months pay slips along with 6 months bank statements and a bank balance of around £5000. Do you think this is sufficient?

On the other hand for accomodation details, my tanancy agreement is not detailed i.e. it doesn't describe how many rooms and how many people live there. could you please suggest the best way forward i.e. what do I need to do in order to show them the details of how many rooms in the property and how many people live there to show that accomodation will not be overcrowded when my wife joins me.

For your information, the accomodation where I lives in is a big house and having 3 double bed rooms, 1 Single Bedroom, 1 lounge, 1 combined full bathroom, 1 big Spam along with 1 seperate WC and 2 storage room in the Garden. There are other people living in the house as well, however I have double bed room and lives alone and my room is big enough for a couple with plenty of storage. what do you suggest how many people can live in this sort of property before it declared as overcrowded.

I look forward to hearing from you John, your help would be highly appreciated.

regds
Raj Malhotra

[John]

Raj, have a look at this topic and then get out the tape measure!

Your tenancy .. am I right ... is certainly not for the whole house but just for part of it? So what have you got? The exclusive use of what ... just the bedroom? Shared use of Spam, bathroom and toilet?

Certainly as regards the double bedroom ... measure it ... do prove that it exceeds 50 sq feet in size. After all just one "counting room" is sufficient for two people ... but prove it is a "counting room".

Financial information looks OK.

[raj]

Dear John,

it seems you have hit the nail, my tanancy agreement is assured shorthold tenancy agreement which is usually being used for whole property.

However my agreement states that:

1) We let out the property at: First floor, double bed room, xxx, abc London. to you ( individually and together if there is more than one of you) as well as the furniture, fixtures and household belongings that are on the list that you and we signed.

***By the way we didn't sign any list apart from this agreement.

2) we will let the property to you (individually and together) and only
Mr Raj Malhotra and Monika will be allowed to live there.

****Though Spam, bathroom, WC and storage room is Shared,

however my agreement is not specifically mentioning any of these. as I mentioned this Assured Shorthold tenancy agreement is designed to be used for renting the whole property.

Now, considering the above what do you suggest, should I get one more clause (handwritten) added to the already typed and signed contract, as I do not see the possibility of having another contract from my Landlord who lives in the same accomodation as mine.

As I described earlier, Accomodation is not overcrowded and my room is Quite bigger than normal double bed room, as apart from double bed I have 2 seater sofa, corner shelf, Fridge, TV, Wardrobe, Table and still left with enough space!!

I need your kind advise on how to move forward.

Look forward to hearing from you John.

regds
Raj

[raj]

Anyone's help will be highly appreciated.

regds

[raj]

ANYONE PLEASE HELP!!

Regds

[John]

Accommodation is not overcrowded and my room is Quite bigger than normal double bed room

Raj, prove it! Grab a tape measure! Specify that the room is ... whatever .... 133 square feet .... or whatever the size is!

After all, just one "counting room" is sufficient for two people ... and it sounds like you clearly have one "counting room".

The shared accommodation that is not covered by the agreement? It might be useful to draw up a simple letter confirming that you have non-exclusive use of certain rooms .... just in case the ECO wonders about that aspect.

[raj]

Thanks John,

Much Appreciated.

Regards
Raj