child nationallity

mirzhar · Post by **mirzhar** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:09 pm

hi

just wondering i am sooner gona have lovely baby boy my wife is british and i am non eu national have stamp 4eufam 4

what will be my son nationallity ?

my wife will have baby born here in ireland

thanks

Post by **JAJ** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:54 pm

If your wife is a British citizen, then child will be an Irish citizen. Automatically.

Whether child becomes a British citizen depends on how your wife got her British citizenship. You don't tell us ...

Post by **Obie** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:41 am

Just to add, depending on which part of Ireland your wife will be having the baby, the child could still possibly claim an automatic right to citizenship of both countries.

In addition to the previous question, can you also confirm which part of Ireland your wife intend on giving birth to the baby.

mirzhar · Post by **mirzhar** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:43 am

we are living in Southern Ireland , We moved here 3 yrs ago and since then we have settle down here

Post by **JAJ** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:06 pm

mirzhar wrote:we are living in Southern Ireland , We moved here 3 yrs ago and since then we have settle down here

So your child will be Irish.

You still haven't told us how your wife got her British citizenship, so you can't expect meaningful comments on whether the child will be British or not.

And do you and your wife have other nationalities?

mirzhar · Post by **mirzhar** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:23 pm

my wife got her citizenship because of her mother was british citizen

They been living long in UK . Thats all i know abt how they got citizenship

well it really doesnt matter for us even my baby will be irish or british

just wondering which documentation shall i complete to fulfil the formalities

Post by **JAJ** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:58 pm

mirzhar wrote:my wife got her citizenship because of her mother was british citizen

They been living long in UK . Thats all i know abt how they got citizenship

well it really doesnt matter for us even my baby will be irish or british

With respect, it should matter to you what nationality your baby has.

"my wife got her citizenship because of her mother was british citizen"

What does that mean? Does it mean that they immigrated to the UK together and became British citizens by application? Or was your wife's mother already a British citizen when she was born (presumably outside the UK). It all makes a difference ....

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:16 pm

Obie wrote:Just to add, depending on which part of Ireland your wife will be having the baby, the child could still possibly claim an automatic right to citizenship of both countries.

No it doesn't. The OP says the baby will be born in Ireland. No ambiguity there. The child will either be also British by decent or not British at all.

mirzhar · Post by **mirzhar** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:06 pm

thanks everyone for reply

but answer of my question is still not clear yet ?

I have Eufam4 my wife is british

what will be my child born in ireland will have nationallity

? Irish or british

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:08 pm

mirzhar wrote:thanks everyone for reply

but answer of my question is still not clear yet ?

I have Eufam4 my wife is british

what will be my child born in ireland will have nationallity

? Irish or british

Certainly Irish, possibly others. You do not let us answer properly as you are not providing the information asked.

Post by **Obie** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:18 pm

Ben wrote:
Obie wrote:Just to add, depending on which part of Ireland your wife will be having the baby, the child could still possibly claim an automatic right to citizenship of both countries.
No it doesn't. The OP says the baby will be born in Ireland. No ambiguity there. The child will either be also British by decent or not British at all.

Actually there is ambiguity, because the Island of ireland , is made of the Republic of Ireland and the 6 counties or Northern Ireland as it is called.

Had the OP said Republic of Ireland, then there would not have been any ambiguity.

My sister lived with us in a county that borders Newry, and choose to have her child in Newry, and hence the child was able to secure the citizenship of Both UK and Ireland, without the need to probe the circumstance surrounding the acquisitation of her British nationality

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:30 pm

Obie wrote:
Ben wrote:
Obie wrote:Just to add, depending on which part of Ireland your wife will be having the baby, the child could still possibly claim an automatic right to citizenship of both countries.
No it doesn't. The OP says the baby will be born in Ireland. No ambiguity there. The child will either be also British by decent or not British at all.
Actually there is ambiguity, because the Island of ireland , is made of the Republic of Ireland and the 6 counties or Northern Ireland as it is called.

Had the OP said Republic of Ireland, then there would not have been any ambiguity.

My sister lived with us in a county that borders Newry, and choose to have her child in Newry, and hence the child was able to secure the citizenship of Both UK and Ireland, without the need to probe the circumstance surrounding the acquisitation of her British nationality

Obie. The OP said the child is to be born in Ireland. That is the name of the state. 'Republic of Ireland' is merely a description of the state of Ireland and is not the name, as you seem to infer.

Nowhere has the OP mentioned Northern Ireland or anywhere else in United Kingdom.

Again, there is no ambiguity in the statement, "my wife will have baby born here in ireland". You are confusing matters by saying things like the nationality of a child can be affected by location of the birth within the country.

Post by **Obie** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:49 pm

My understanding is EIRE is more or less the southern bit of Ireland which is the state.

The english version is Ireland, but it cannot be inferred that the specific scope of EIRE is similar to that of Ireland, which without further clarification could cover the whole of the Island of Ireland.

Ireland in my view refers to the whole Island of Ireland, without and specific, whiles EIRE refers to the whole of Ireland and the Soverign state of Ireland.

It would be wrong to refer to the 6 counties as EIRE, while the whole Island of Ireland could be referred to as Ireland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

For argument sake and to ensure we don't go of topic, i will suggest we don't proceed with this arguement

Post by **JAJ** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:24 am

Obie wrote:My understanding is EIRE is more or less the southern bit of Ireland which is the state.

The english version is Ireland, but it cannot be inferred that the specific scope of EIRE is similar to that of Ireland, which without further clarification could cover the whole of the Island of Ireland.

Ireland in my view refers to the whole Island of Ireland, without and specific, whiles EIRE refers to the whole of Ireland and the Soverign state of Ireland.

Eire = Ireland. Different language, same meaning. In normal English usage, the term "Ireland" usually refers to the Republic of Ireland UNLESS the context is such that it is a reference to the whole island. Usually it's better to use the term "Republic of Ireland" to avoid ambiguity.

In a similar sense, "America" usually refers to the USA and not "North America" (which also includes Canada and Greenland).

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