People with 75 point or above under HSMP system ???

[pantaiema]

After I know that the new Tier system is as follow:

Tier 1: Need to score at least 75 Points. People might qualify for ILR after 2 Years
Tier 2: Need to score at least 50 Points. People might qualify for ILR after 5 years.

In the latest HSMP system, the people need to scoreat least 65 points. However, I believe that there must be quite a few numbers of people outthere who might get 75 points or even more under HSMP system. What will happen with these people after the new Tier system is implemented ?.

It will be reasonable and fair if they are transferred to the Tier 1 (they score the same point). Which mean they will qualify for ILR after 2 years on HSMP visa. But this is my personal opinion and it will be interesting issue that need to be discussed.

Pantaiema

[NationOne]

Would be quite interesting to know your thoughts on this. There are a few possibilities we can speculate on. Ordered them on descending happiness.

1. HSMP holders who had 75 points or above would automatically be converted to Tier1. And if they have been in the UK for 2 years, will be eligible for ILR. Wishful thinking?

OR

2. Same as point 1, but the 2 year ILR clock starts on the Tier1 application date.

OR

3. HSMP holders would need to reappy under Tier1 and have points assessed at the Tier1 application date. Ages have moved up and earnings have changed . If they qualify and have lived here for 2 years become eligible for ILR.

OR

4. Same as point 3, but the ILR clock starts at the time of Tier1 application.

[lynn132]

[quote="NationOne"]


1. HSMP holders who had 75 points or above would automatically be converted to Tier1. And if they have been in the UK for 2 years, will be eligible for ILR. Wishful thinking?
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Seriously, I don't think they will go back through the original application files and try to determine who had how many points. This would be an incredibly time-consuming undertaking with no real value added. It is more likely they will simply convert all current HSMP holders to Tier 1 and be done with it. They may however be a bit more stringent on the FLR - those who have been in the country for a year or more and are unemployed or underemployed (i.e. they have a job that is not highly skilled) may not be granted FLR. I think they may, after April 3, begin extending FLR for 4 years to existing HSMP holders, which would be the fair thing to do. I'll find out next month when I apply for FLR.

[pantaiema]

I also thought, it is logically to assume that they will not do the assessment again against the new criteria they simply do not have enough resources. The current workload of caseworker is already overloaded and there is already a backlog in the current application. It will be better if they put their resources to the new application. However, what I mean here is that, on the initial approval letter it is already mentioned how many point someone get (e.g. 65, 70, 75 etc) They could simply refer to this point without having to do reassessment.

Pantaiema

[lynn132]

My lettter does not mention the number of points I received. Most of those I know also did not have this information in their letter.

[zhassan]

What's the possibility of extending age limit,adding the peospetive work experience or partener's achievements in the new proposed points based immigration system?

Please comment.

Cheers,
Zia

[lynn132]

I think it is unlikely, for a very straightforward reason. As reading through this forum attests, the caseworkers have a very difficult time with the work experience points. We have all seen numerous examples of people whose legitimate graduate experience has not been accepted, only to be accepted later at review. We know that the HO realise that work experience is a key to success under HSMP, because it was in the consultation document, but they must have decided that the resources required to evaluate work experience were too extensive. Excluding it speeds up the system by taking out the most subjective portion of the points system. I would suppose that they rationalise this by assuming that if someone has that much experience, they must have the high income to go with.

[zhassan]

But this contrasts to many other countries which are successfully running point based skilled immigration system like Australia and Canada.

Also Age factor is very restrictive.Does one becomes old if he/she passes the age limit of 31?

[lynn132]

Those other countries do not have backlogs of months and months like the UK currently does. The UK has to address this backlog in both immigration and asylum, and the only way to do that is to reallocate resources and prevent the backlog from getting deeper.

And I guess we are old after 31!

[tvt]

ILR after 2 years for Tier 1? Keep dreaming ...

It is evident the policy is to increase the qualifying period and make settlement harder.

[Chess]

even if they made the qulifying period 30 years - it wont deter the determined economic migrant...We came to stay and we wont be 'stopped' that easily...

It is more difficult to get into USA whereas the number of illegals per total population si higher than that in the UK - so who is fooling who?

Blame all this on colonisation and imprealism....Mr. Blair et al; it is pay back time

[pantaiema]

Dear lynn132

I have seen there is approval letter with the Points awarded in it. This is especially true for the people who got their approval in the first two years the introduction of HSMP. That is why I mention it that there is people who got 75 points or above

My lettter does not mention the number of points I received. Most of those I know also did not have this information in their letter.

Pantaiema