HOLIDAYMAKER VISA

[jevado]

Hi there

I've been in England as a student for the pass 7 years. I plan to return home this summer, but I wanted to know if I can apply for the Holidaymaker visa, or will I have problems as I've just returned from England.

My case is that with all the time I spent in England, I never really explored this place. I would also like to explore Europe using the UK as my base. I'll get a job first, then do the travelling. I never really had a holiday all this time as during my summers I worked and during term time I was at college/university, but as i'm finally completed I'm free to do whatever. I qualify for the Holidaymaker visa requirements, but just wanted to know if I'll come across any problems when applying.

I also plan to bring my brother who is back at home at the moment to join me on my travels.

Thanks for reading!!!

[Ness]

Hiya,

I think you may be in for a bt of trouble in getting the WHV approved.

You see, you need to prove to the immigration authorities that you have no ties to the UK and that you will return home at the completion of your visa.

The fact that you have spent 7 years here as a student means that you do have ties here and they might think you will just trying to get back to the UK to your friends, boyfriend, cat, etc.

What were you studying for 7 years (that is a VERY long degree )?
You might be eligible for a HSMP visa instead which would be much better than a WHV.

[jevado]

Hi again... thanks for the reply... to continue...

"The fact that you have spent 7 years here as a student means that you do have ties here and they might think you will just trying to get back to the UK to your friends, boyfriend, cat, etc."

How do one prove that you have no ties to the uk? Even if I had ties, whats wrong with that? I'm only using as a holiday with my brother. My main reason is that my younger brother always wanted to come to england and as I have lived here, completed my studies and want a gap year to relax, its the best excuse in my eyes. And to return home on completion of my visa has already been proven as that's what I'm doing at present. What am I to do then... live illegally...even at Burger King they need to see your passport details, and as I have 2 degrees, I have no intention of getting a cleaning job and living in hostels

During my 7 year stay... I started out at college doing A levels all the way to master degree level, and I've never once had an immigration problem, hence I cant see the problem

[Smit]

Someone very close to me was rejeted a WHM visa, one of the grounds being that he had already studied here in the UK for 3 years previously.

The other ground was that he had a good job in his home country and the ECO wondered why he was taking a working holiday in the UK and by doing so, risk his career in his home country.

[Ness]

You may not have had any probs with immigration while on a student visa prior to now, but what I am saying is this:
* The immigration authorities will probably take the stance of "you had 7 years to take a holiday in the UK, why should we give you another 2?"
* To take a working holiday in the UK, you are supposed to do work incidental to taking a holiday. Yet you are educated to Masters Degree level. You will NOT be looking to do basic work simply to supplement your holiday money and to fund your travels. You have already said this (above).

What am I to do then... live illegally...

Well no, actually, you're supposed to live in your own country (which won't be illegal). If you get a visa then come to the UK legally.

My main reason is that my younger brother always wanted to come to england and as I have lived here, completed my studies and want a gap year to relax, its the best excuse in my eyes.

Yet the immigration authorities won't think of this as a good excuse. Your brother, if he qualifies, may apply for a WHM, but you certainly don't need to be here also.

Look, by all means, apply and see what happens.

I was just suggesting that you might not get it approved. And Smit appears to agree with me. If you want to apply, then apply and see what happens. I don't like your chances though, but that's just me.

Like I said before, why don't you apply for the HSMP? Or for a Work Permit? They sound far more suited to your circumstances.

[pantaiema]

Let talk openly. I am not refering this message to any particular person or make accusation to any person. I am raising this issue to highlight the fact why quite people including home office are quite suspicious if the people study too long.

I know quite a few people get student Visa but they never enroll in any course. What they do is that when their student visa is about to expire they come to the college (not a university) to get another letter of admission. The notorious course is the course such as ACCA.

The college require them to pay at least 3 month tuition fee in advanced. In political theory this called "conspiracy theory" both party win. Student get what they want, college get money from the students.

So we should not blame the home office too much if they are tougher about giving visa to student.

Indeed, this is unfair to genuine students who really want to study but will get problem because of this precedent.


Pantaiema

Hiya,

I think you may be in for a bt of trouble in getting the WHV approved.

You see, you need to prove to the immigration authorities that you have no ties to the UK and that you will return home at the completion of your visa.

The fact that you have spent 7 years here as a student means that you do have ties here and they might think you will just trying to get back to the UK to your friends, boyfriend, cat, etc.

What were you studying for 7 years (that is a VERY long degree )?
You might be eligible for a HSMP visa instead which would be much better than a WHV.

[pantaiema]

This is quite problematic. Quite reasonable people have abused the student visa in the past. It makes other people who are genuine students difficult.

pantaiema

Hiya,
What were you studying for 7 years (that is a VERY long degree )?
You might be eligible for a HSMP visa instead which would be much better than a WHV.

[pantaiema]

Let talk openly. I am not refering this message to any particular person or make accusation to any person. I am raising this issue to highlight the fact why quite people including home office are quite suspicious if the people study too long.

I know quite a few people get student Visa but they never get involved in any course. What they do is that when their student visa are about to expire they come to the college (not a university) to get another letter of admission. The notorious course is the course such as ACCA.

The college require them to pay at least 3 months tuition fee in advanced. In political theory this called "conspiracy theory" both party win. Student get what they want, college get money from the students.

So we should not blame the home office too much if they are tougher about giving visa to student.

Indeed, this is unfair to genuine students who really want to study but will get problem because of this precedent.


Pantaiema

Hiya,

I think you may be in for a bt of trouble in getting the WHV approved.

You see, you need to prove to the immigration authorities that you have no ties to the UK and that you will return home at the completion of your visa.

The fact that you have spent 7 years here as a student means that you do have ties here and they might think you will just trying to get back to the UK to your friends, boyfriend, cat, etc.

What were you studying for 7 years (that is a VERY long degree )?
You might be eligible for a HSMP visa instead which would be much better than a WHV.

[pantaiema]

Hiya,

I think you may be in for a bt of trouble in getting the WHV approved.

You see, you need to prove to the immigration authorities that you have no ties to the UK and that you will return home at the completion of your visa.

The fact that you have spent 7 years here as a student means that you do have ties here and they might think you will just trying to get back to the UK to your friends, boyfriend, cat, etc.

What were you studying for 7 years (that is a VERY long degree )?
You might be eligible for a HSMP visa instead which would be much better than a WHV.

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