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Post by Journey111 » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:34 pm

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Post by Journey111 » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:12 pm

Any opinions.?
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Post by MPH80 » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:17 pm

Apparently you can make a request in a number of locations:

http://www.islington.gov.uk/Downloadabl ... idance.pdf
A request for a voluntary departure can be made in a number of ways:
*in person at a Local Immigration Team (LIT) or Public Enquiry Office
(PEO)
*by telephone
*by letter
*through a Member of Parliament (MP)
*by the person’s representative on their behalf
So you should be able to make the request at Croydon - but I bet it doesn't happen often!

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Post by Mr Rusty » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:56 am

Have you got your passport, is it still valid?
If so, the quickest way to get removed at public expense would be to surrender yourself at the nearest police station. You won't "go to jail", they won't bother to charge or prosecute you if you tell them you just want to give yourself up and go home - unless of course there are outstanding criminal offences that you don't want to face up to.
The police will call in an Immigration Officer who will come and interview you. Like any prisoner booked into police custody, you will be offered the option to take legal advice. This can cause a delay, because the criminal duty solicitor will say he's not qualified to deal with immigration cases, so the police have to contact the duty immigration solicitor, who may be in Newcastle or Manchester or somewhere else miles from where you are, and the best you can normally hope for is a consultation on the phone. The solicitor will then tell the police that he's given you advice but he doesn't propose to attend the interview. It's up to you whether you want to bother with this, but if all you want to do is go home there's not much advice that will be of use to you. The interview won't take long.
If you sign a disclaimer, they can book a flight in less than 3 days, if you don't, they have to give at least 72 hours notice of removal, which means that you will have to sit in a cell for that time.
Being in a police cell is not wonderful, but compared with sleeping in the park, you'll be in the dry and warm and get regular meals.

If you don't have your passport and want further advice, state your nationality, when you came to the UK and whether you have or can obtain other documents confirming your identity and nationality.

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Post by Journey111 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:54 pm

Thanks
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Post by MPH80 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:50 pm

I'm afraid I don't know enough to be able to offer solid advice on the right way forward for you. However, a search of Manchester City Council's site has thrown up some interesting links:

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/20000 ... nchester/3

See the bottom of this page about being destitute.

Also see:

http://boaztrust.org.uk/

They are based in Manchester and may be able to help you.

There is then also this charity:

http://www.jcwi.org.uk/aboutJCWI/legal_ ... assistance

They claim to offer free legal advice every week on Wednesday 11am-1pm.

I have not worked with, or have any knowledge of these organizations - these are simply links I've found while searching.

I think if you want the quick solution - presenting yourself at a police station might be the right way - but they equally might simply issue you with a deportation notice and expect you to come back to be deported!

M.

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Post by Mr Rusty » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:35 am

The nearest Enforcement Unit dealing with illegals/overstayers appears to be:
Dallas Court Enforcement Unit
Units 1-2 Dallas Court
South Langworthy Road
Salford Quays
Manchester
M5 2GF Tel: 0161 8884100/31
I suggest that you call them, tell them that you wish to surrender yourself for removal, and ask them what you should do. I think they'll probably be happy to deal with you, as you present them with an easy contribution to their removal statistics.
Even if you have to go to a police station, I think your fears of prosecution for some immigration offence are groundless. At any formal interview under caution, you have the right not to answer questions, so if you admit to the overstaying offence (for which I don't remember anyone ever being prosecuted), you can say "no comment" to anything else. If you don't want them to know about any illegal working, don't tell them about it, and don't carry any payslips or other evidence. They can't prosecute you without evidence. Post any bank statements or papers important to you back to Tanzania before you turn yourself in.
I hope you still have your expired passport*, I think the Tanzanian authorities will probably accept you back on that with a paper issued by UKBA. The IO who interviews you will have to complete a 'Biodetails proforma' - very basic stuff about your i/d and where you came from in Tanzania.
On the ticket they get, you'll probably be allowed 20kg luggage.

* you didn't "doctor" it, did you?

Good luck to you. You are being sensible in facing up to your situation.

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Post by Journey111 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:45 pm

Thanks and adios.

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