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P45 & P60 forms

Post by rtiwari » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:57 pm

hi,

How important is P45 form for ILR application? Is it ok if I have all the P60s, bank statement and all the salary slips? It seems I have misplaced my P45 form.

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Raj

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Post by geriatrix » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:53 pm

If you have the P60s, don't worry about the P45(s).


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Post by geriatrix » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:39 pm

rtiwari wrote:Hi,

I came to the UK in Sept 2006 and since then have switched job just once. I was going through my P60s (2006-2007 and 2007-2008) and have found my NI number missing on the P60s provided to me by my former employer.

Can someone please suggest what can be done and how this can impact my ILR application? I have all the salary slips and bank statements showing the salary credits.

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Shouldn't be an issue, but if you wish to, you may include a copy of the official letter you received from DWP stating your NI number.


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Post by m_man1 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:30 pm

hi

i have a similar question

i ve got one of my friend's applying for ilr later next month
he is applying under 5 years work permit category
he was made reundant,and got his p45 in march and he has a appointment letter fron new employer from may and his work permit under the new pbs was done in october 2009

my question here now is

he is applying for ilr he has all the p60 from 2005 except for 2009 what needs to be done under these circumstances

does he need to submit the p45 instead of p60 for that year as he hasnt got the p60?

if he does submit the p45 will his gap in employment be checked


what 's your take on this sushdmehta ....your advice is always a boon

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Post by geriatrix » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:39 am

Where was he (your friend) from the month he was made redundant until the day he joined the new employer? In the UK or outside? And how long (exactly) was this period of unemployment?

He'll have to provide either P60 for the year, or in its absence, payslips for the year. A dip in annual income (owing to unemployment) reflected in P60 or inability to provide payslips for the whole of year will be a clear indication of unemployment. Likewise, P45 is a clear indication of change of employment and the caseworker would expect to know how soon / late did the applicant joined employment again.

So, any way he tries, unless his application gets to a dumb caseworker, his period of unemployment will be found out.

The question is whether this unemployment period has any (negative) affect on his eligibility to apply for settlement. Answer to questions asked above may help figure that out,


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Post by m_man1 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:58 am

he was in the uk all the while and he took up the employment with the new employer within the 45 days(42 days exactly) but was offered the employment on a part time assistant manager basis until he gets the work permit through


and he got the permit in october 2009 where in he started full time basis will this have any effect on ilr?

are the days counted from the time he left the previous employer till he got the work permit or till he got an employment letter from the new employer?

if yes, what would be a best possible solution?

if no , can he ask the current employer if they can issue a letter to confirm his full time position from the time of start rather than p/t if they are willing? and will it help?

thanks sushdmehta

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Post by unileeds » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:10 pm

Reagrding the P60 and P45, i would say it depends. The P60 is there to show economic activity inline with the HSMP/Tier 1 min criteria. To see if your income has been more than 19000GBP which was the lowest point slab i think.

ANyway, it also depends whether this missing P45 is before or after you current category started. for eg.

2006 entered Uk
2007
2008
2009 Tier 1
2010
2011 ILR app

So I reckon if your missin P45 is anywhere before you got a Tier 1, you should be OK. as the Tier 1 proves you qualified for the minimum requirements. If the missing P45 is after Tier 1 then you should go with wage slips and bankstatements. As the P60 only states income taxed from the current employer. SO if you changed jobs in Jan 2010, your 2009-2010 P60 will only include income from Jan-Apr 2010, and the caseworker will need to know what the economic activity was in the time preceeding to this, unless some how you manged to earn 19k+ in the this Jan-apr period.

I hope it makes sense. Its always hit and miss!!

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Post by m_man1 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:04 pm

thanks guys

but i still have doubts about what can be done from the applicants side? is it best to get a solicitor?

Also when he was made redundant and applied for the tier 2 permit-general immigrant if there was anything wrong with his application (i mean the gap in employment )he wouldnt have got his tier1 permit would he?



if thats the case then he shouldnt have problem with his ilr application considering he got his tier2 approved

i guess the only issue here would be missing p60 which can be misplaced as well what does one do in these circumstances?get payslips(if one has kept them safe?

are there any other alternatives?bank statements if one has?

i am just trying to brainstorm this any other leads sushdmehta?seniors share your thoughts

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Post by m_man1 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:25 am

hi guys any takers on this topic

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