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Tier 1 Dependent confused on employment and education

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Tier 1 Dependent confused on employment and education

Post by mchawking » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:11 pm

I'd like to get some advice about working in the U.K. I read the dependency policy and it states that I cannot work full time but part time work has to generate enough income so I look like I'm a dependent on my father (who is the tier 1 migrant) and that I'm still not financially independent. I don't know which policy states what my income and working hours limit is and I've been told that my application will be reviewed independently and I'll have to show myself as a capable migrant. I'm not sure about why college is asking £7500 for a year because I've been living in this country for three years and I'm still not considered a home student. The university route isn't for me because I'm not allowed to get a student loan and the international fees apply there as well. I've been told that if I don't enroll somewhere, I'd be considered capable enough to earn and things like that so I'm just asking what I can do and what I should read..

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Post by geriatrix » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:48 pm

1. There is no restriction on the number of hours a dependant of Tier 1 (General) migrant can work.
2. Unless granted settlement, one may be liable to pay "international" fees. Contact educational institutes to determine their specific policies on the matter.
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Post by mchawking » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:00 pm

sushdmehta wrote:1. There is no restriction on the number of hours a dependant of Tier 1 (General) migrant can work.
In the points based system dependence guideline, it was stated that my income must meet my expenditure and that I must not become financially independent. I'm not sure what that means exactly but I do feel that it's trying to hint at a certain income.

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Post by geriatrix » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:06 pm

How can you be full-time employed when you intend to study? Or are you asking if you can work full-time, should you choose not to study?

How old are you?
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Post by mchawking » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:09 pm

I'm 19 years old. What do you mean by 'intend to study'? I don't think I can go to college or university with such astounding fees and there's no one to pay that much money.

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Post by geriatrix » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:18 pm

If you join an educational program as a full-time student, you cannot work full-time simultaneously.

What I mean to ask is what option(s) are you considering:
1. Work full-time, and not study at all.
2. Work full-time, and study part-time.
2. Study full-time but also work (part-time or for as much time you can spare from your studies).

If it is option 1 and 2, then you may have to provide evidence of "not leading an independent life" at the time of extension. And, your income is not the only measure to ascertain whether or not you are "leading an independent life". It is one of the measures ... so putting a finger on a fixed amount is not the way to look at it (as you expect / suspect).
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Post by mchawking » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:41 pm

I don't think I can enter a higher educational program as a student if I can't afford the fees. I would like to work full time but the pbs dependency policy states that I cannot and I'm just paranoid about this little income limit because my dad, brother and uncle kept bringing it up and kept saying that my application will be judged independently because I'm over 18 yet I'm still his dependent.. so a bit of that anxiety just spilled into my view and they have a victim complex. I digress, what I meant to ask was how will I be judged as a dependent if I'm not in school, college or university but I work part time and I'll be seen as capable of becoming financially independent?

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Post by geriatrix » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:22 pm

Like I said, being employed and earning is not the only criteria that "dependency" (in context) may be judged upon.

This said, I do think that if you start working full-time then you will need to provide adequate evidence of "not leading an independent life" to support your (extension / settlement) application - which, if one is not working, is much easier to prove.

It is not that if you start earning you'll become ineligible for extension. It is one of the factors involved, and therefore UKBA asks for additional evidence(s) to assess that a child dependant is not leading an independent life.

When does your father qualify for settlement? Since when have you been living in the UK as a dependant of a Tier 1 (General) migrant?
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Post by mchawking » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:44 pm

sushdmehta wrote: When does your father qualify for settlement? Since when have you been living in the UK as a dependant of a Tier 1 (General) migrant?
I've been living in the U.K as his dependent for a bit more than 3 years now. In 2013, we're going to apply for indefinite leave to remain. At the moment, I'm just trying to fill the time gap with something and employment doesn't seem to be promising at all considering I can't do a course of some sorts because of all the fees and such.

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:13 am

Consider vocational training to enhance your skills, and working part-time to save up for university education in future.
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Post by mchawking » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:06 am

Thank you for all your help and for clearing up the important issues. I would try getting vocational training after I have some money but getting work seems to be the issue and my father doesn't want to provide money for any form of training. Any suggestion on finding work?

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