Passport / Visa query

[Doozyyyyy]

Hi

I hope someone can help me, with what is probably a slightly vague question and thanks in advance for taking a look.

I am taking a group of school boys to Holland to play football this summer. One of our boys is not originally a UK citizen and his original passport from his non-EU country of birth has expired.


His mum seems to think the only way he can travel is to seek British Nationality and apply for a UK passport. Completion of this process however will take us way past the departure point for the trip, so will basically be a pointless exercise.

It seems odd to me that there isn't a slightly simpler answer to all this, how hard can it be just to get a ten year old school boy to Holland for three days.

Any ideas?

[Greenie]

I think it is probably best if the child's mother seeks advice directly on this matter as i doubt that you will have sufficient knowledge of the child's immigration status and history in order for anyone to be able to give you accurate advice.

[terriblescream]

Hi

I hope someone can help me, with what is probably a slightly vague question and thanks in advance for taking a look.

I am taking a group of school boys to Holland to play football this summer. One of our boys is not originally a UK citizen and his original passport from his non-EU country of birth has expired.


His mum seems to think the only way he can travel is to seek British Nationality and apply for a UK passport. Completion of this process however will take us way past the departure point for the trip, so will basically be a pointless exercise.

It seems odd to me that there isn't a slightly simpler answer to all this, how hard can it be just to get a ten year old school boy to Holland for three days.

Any ideas?

Very hard without a passport or travel document, since he being non-eu citizen, he also needs a visa to travel to Holland!

[terriblescream]

I have found some more information for you and the good news is he can travel without a VISA but still needs a valid passport or travel document from his home country.

School trips exemption:
Pupils, school children and high school students in general education, who would normally require a visa because of their nationality, are exempt from the visa requirement for the Netherlands if their names are entered on a 'List of Travellers' form. This form is available from the British Council.

Please note that this form is not a valid travel document in itself. Each pupil must therefore carry a valid individual document containing the holder's personal details and photograph, such as:
- a valid passport;
- a valid travel document or
- a valid identity card.

Further information about the school trip exemption can be obtained from the British Council. Please note that the British Council cannot give general visa advice.

THIS INFORMATION ABOVE IS FROM THE LINK
http://www.dutchembassyuk.org/consular/index.php?i=56

BRITISH COUNCIL LINK
http://www.britishcouncil.org/cms/home- ... scheme.htm

[Doozyyyyy]

I think it is probably best if the child's mother seeks advice directly on this matter as i doubt that you will have sufficient knowledge of the child's immigration status and history in order for anyone to be able to give you accurate advice.

I would of course agree, but her English isn't great and I just want to make sure we have every angle covered on her behalf in case she is missing something somewhere.

Cheers

[Greenie]

I have found some more information for you and the good news is he can travel without a VISA but still needs a valid passport or travel document from his home country.

School trips exemption:
Pupils, school children and high school students in general education, who would normally require a visa because of their nationality, are exempt from the visa requirement for the Netherlands if their names are entered on a 'List of Travellers' form. This form is available from the British Council.

Please note that this form is not a valid travel document in itself. Each pupil must therefore carry a valid individual document containing the holder's personal details and photograph, such as:
- a valid passport;
- a valid travel document or
- a valid identity card.

Further information about the school trip exemption can be obtained from the British Council. Please note that the British Council cannot give general visa advice.

THIS INFORMATION ABOVE IS FROM THE LINK
http://www.dutchembassyuk.org/consular/index.php?i=56

BRITISH COUNCIL LINK
http://www.britishcouncil.org/cms/home- ... scheme.htm

yes but without knowing if the child even has leave to remain in the UK it is not possible to say whether this is an option as without leave in the UK he won't get back in. This is why the mother should seek advice directly.

[terriblescream]

I think it is probably best if the child's mother seeks advice directly on this matter as i doubt that you will have sufficient knowledge of the child's immigration status and history in order for anyone to be able to give you accurate advice.

I would of course agree, but her English isn't great and I just want to make sure we have every angle covered on her behalf in case she is missing something somewhere.

Cheers

I believe emergency passports/an urgent passport can still be issued to that child if you seek his embassy/high commission in the UK, and then the form by British Counil, he would be able to travel to Holland as the VISA wont be required in this case

[terriblescream]

Doozyyyyy,

can you please find out first whether the child has leave to remain in the UK at the first place as Greenie advised he wont be let in if he doesnt have a residence permit for the UK.

[Greenie]

Also what is the child's nationality? Bear in mind also there may be a reason why the child should not travel on his national passport for example if the mother is a refugee.

[Doozyyyyy]

Hi

I think Rwandan originally.

[terriblescream]

Hi

I think Rwandan originally.

Does he have a VISA/Leave to remain for the UK, is it VALID ?

[Doozyyyyy]

Hi

I think Rwandan originally.

Does he have a VISA/Leave to remain for the UK, is it VALID ?

I'm going to be checking all this tomorrow, before pushing the whole thing too far.

I only heard tonight that this problem existed.

I've known the lad for 5 years, I would be surprised if residency was an issue.

[terriblescream]

Hi

I think Rwandan originally.

Does he have a VISA/Leave to remain for the UK, is it VALID ?

I'm going to be checking all this tomorrow, before pushing the whole thing too far.

I only heard tonight that this problem existed.

I've known the lad for 5 years, I would be surprised if residency was an issue.

That's why Greenie suggested that the person who is directly linked would be able to reveal the whole thing.

Find out, get back if you have any questions further.

I'd say if his leave in the UK is still valid, approach his home country embassy to resolve the issue on the passport

[Doozyyyyy]

Hi

I think Rwandan originally.

Does he have a VISA/Leave to remain for the UK, is it VALID ?

I'm going to be checking all this tomorrow, before pushing the whole thing too far.

I only heard tonight that this problem existed.

I've known the lad for 5 years, I would be surprised if residency was an issue.

That's why Greenie suggested that the person who is directly linked would be able to reveal the whole thing.

Find out, get back if you have any questions further.

I'd say if his leave in the UK is still valid, approach his home country embassy to resolve the issue on the passport

Thanks everyone.

I appreciate the responses. Will dig tomorrow

[Greenie]

I'd say if his leave in the UK is still valid, approach his home country embassy to resolve the issue on the passport

not if the mother is a refugee! Just wait to see what the OP comes back with before giving any hypothetical advice.

[terriblescream]

I'd say if his leave in the UK is still valid, approach his home country embassy to resolve the issue on the passport

not if the mother is a refugee! Just wait to see what the OP comes back with before giving any hypothetical advice.

Alright will keep that in mind for next time