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Question. me=EEA national (Germany). husband=non EEA (U.S).

Post by ch33rup » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:36 pm

Hello all, I have been reading and researching for several days now and I am quite overwhelmed with all the information. The UK Border Agency website is very helpful but I still have many unanswered question and I hope you can help me answer some of them.

Here is my situation.

- I am a German citizen living in the USA (I work and live here legally, have my residence card etc..). I am employed and have been employed here for a long time.

- My husband is American citizen. He is employed as well. We have been married for 7 years.

- My son is both American and German but was born in the U.S..

- I miss my family and the best ideal option for us would be to move to the UK because of the language. My husband, who speaks no German at all, would have an easier time adapting to life in the UK (mainly because of the language, a job would be easier to find, etc..) According to the UK Border Agency I can move and work in the UK because I am a European citizen (German).

Does that mean I don't have to fill out any kind of paperwork and can just move to the UK and start working there? It seems too good to be true.

My second question is concerning my husband who is non EEA. I see we can apply for a residence stamp through mail. Would the residence stamp, if given/approved, give him the right to legally work in the UK?

Also, one of the documents necessary is evidence that the EEA national (me) is exercising treaty rights, i.e. is employed. Well, I have been employed here for a long time and have documents to prove that. But does that count or do I actually have to have a job in the UK? (or be a job seeker in the UK).

How about my son, who is both German and American. Does he count as a EEA national? Or is he considered a non EEA national.

So many questions, I'm sorry if they sound dumb but I am honestly just a little overwhelmed and unsure as to where to start. Any help would be greatly appreciated, so thank you very much!!

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Re: Question. me=EEA national (Germany). husband=non EEA (U.

Post by terriblescream » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:29 pm

ch33rup wrote:Hello all, I have been reading and researching for several days now and I am quite overwhelmed with all the information. The UK Border Agency website is very helpful but I still have many unanswered question and I hope you can help me answer some of them.

Here is my situation.

- I am a German citizen living in the USA (I work and live here legally, have my residence card etc..). I am employed and have been employed here for a long time.

- My husband is American citizen. He is employed as well. We have been married for 7 years.

- My son is both American and German but was born in the U.S..

- I miss my family and the best ideal option for us would be to move to the UK because of the language. My husband, who speaks no German at all, would have an easier time adapting to life in the UK (mainly because of the language, a job would be easier to find, etc..) According to the UK Border Agency I can move and work in the UK because I am a European citizen (German).

Does that mean I don't have to fill out any kind of paperwork and can just move to the UK and start working there? It seems too good to be true.

My second question is concerning my husband who is non EEA. I see we can apply for a residence stamp through mail. Would the residence stamp, if given/approved, give him the right to legally work in the UK?

Also, one of the documents necessary is evidence that the EEA national (me) is exercising treaty rights, i.e. is employed. Well, I have been employed here for a long time and have documents to prove that. But does that count or do I actually have to have a job in the UK? (or be a job seeker in the UK).

How about my son, who is both German and American. Does he count as a EEA national? Or is he considered a non EEA national.

So many questions, I'm sorry if they sound dumb but I am honestly just a little overwhelmed and unsure as to where to start. Any help would be greatly appreciated, so thank you very much!!
1. Yes no paper work for you and you can arrive in the UK since you have the right to live in work in the UK as a EU national, without a job offer you can come here and find work.

2. Your son is an EU national since he holds a German passport

3. Your husband would require EEA family permit which would allow him to work as well, you will have to apply for him before he comes to the UK

Please see the following link

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucit ... sibilites/

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Re: Question. me=EEA national (Germany). husband=non EEA (U.

Post by ch33rup » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:42 pm

terriblescream wrote:1. Yes no paper work for you and you can arrive in the UK since you have the right to live in work in the UK as a EU national, without a job offer you can come here and find work.

2. Your son is an EU national since he holds a German passport

3. Your husband would require EEA family permit which would allow him to work as well, you will have to apply for him before he comes to the UK

Please see the following link

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucit ... sibilites/
Thank You very much for your reply. That helps a lot. One more question regarding the family permit for my husband, if you don't mind. The form asks to have the following info ready when applying online:

-passport
-address in the UK
-itinerary
-email address.

However, I don't want to book the flight until I know for sure that he will be admitted and legal. I don't just want to jump on the plane and then we denied... is the itinerary really necessary? Also I would probably be staying at a hotel or friend's house until we find an apartment. So I'm not sure how I could fill out the address in UK??

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Post by terriblescream » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:53 pm

Itinery could be planned one, you do not have to really buy the tickets, you could give the hotel address and include a confirmation for a temp basis and explain in a covering letter or there is an option for additional information that you will find a suitable accomodation once you arrive in the UK,

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Post by ch33rup » Sun May 01, 2011 12:01 am

terriblescream wrote:Itinery could be planned one, you do not have to really buy the tickets, you could give the hotel address and include a confirmation for a temp basis and explain in a covering letter or there is an option for additional information that you will find a suitable accomodation once you arrive in the UK,
Thank You again for your help! I am looking into visa fees here:

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply ... feesothers

Would my non EEA husband be considered "family member of an EEA national" under the EEA category? Or does he fall under a different category? As in "Parent / primary carer of an EEA national child"? Just trying to get an idea of how much we're looking at in visa expenses.

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Post by terriblescream » Sun May 01, 2011 12:04 am

ch33rup wrote:
terriblescream wrote:Itinery could be planned one, you do not have to really buy the tickets, you could give the hotel address and include a confirmation for a temp basis and explain in a covering letter or there is an option for additional information that you will find a suitable accomodation once you arrive in the UK,
Thank You again for your help! I am looking into visa fees here:

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply ... feesothers

Would my non EEA husband be considered "family member of an EEA national" under the EEA category? Or does he fall under a different category? As in "Parent / primary carer of an EEA national child"? Just trying to get an idea of how much we're looking at in visa expenses.
Your husband is applying on ur basis so it would be family member of EEA national, which is Free of Charge!!

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Post by ch33rup » Sun May 01, 2011 12:07 am

terriblescream wrote:
ch33rup wrote:
terriblescream wrote:Itinery could be planned one, you do not have to really buy the tickets, you could give the hotel address and include a confirmation for a temp basis and explain in a covering letter or there is an option for additional information that you will find a suitable accomodation once you arrive in the UK,
Thank You again for your help! I am looking into visa fees here:

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply ... feesothers

Would my non EEA husband be considered "family member of an EEA national" under the EEA category? Or does he fall under a different category? As in "Parent / primary carer of an EEA national child"? Just trying to get an idea of how much we're looking at in visa expenses.
Your husband is applying on ur basis so it would be family member of EEA national, which is Free of Charge!!
Ok that answers all my question. I'm sorry for taking up so much of your time! :oops: :) But I honestly appreciate you taking the time. I am just baffled as to how inexpensive this seems to be. When I moved to the US, the whole immigration process cost us well over $3000 and another $10.000+ in attorney fees. What a slap in the face. I can't wait to take my husband to Europe and show him what great countries we have.

Thank You again for your time and responses!

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Post by terriblescream » Sun May 01, 2011 12:12 am

Your welcome...!! I know how expensive immigration can be as I myself a Non-EU in the UK.

All thanks to EU, which gives you right to see over 25 countries!

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Post by ch33rup » Sun May 01, 2011 12:15 am

terriblescream wrote:Your welcome...!! I know how expensive immigration can be as I myself a Non-EU in the UK.

All thanks to EU, which gives you right to live and work in over 25 countries!
I agree with you 100%. The US is not what everyone makes it out to be. No jobs (although we've been lucky), health insurance is going down the hill, poor public schooling, very high crime, just to mention a few... Europe is a much better place these days

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Post by terriblescream » Sun May 01, 2011 12:18 am

ch33rup wrote:
terriblescream wrote:Your welcome...!! I know how expensive immigration can be as I myself a Non-EU in the UK.

All thanks to EU, which gives you right to live and work in over 25 countries!
I agree with you 100%. The US is not what everyone makes it out to be. No jobs (although we've been lucky), health insurance is going down the hill, poor public schooling, very high crime, just to mention a few... Europe is a much better place these days
Agree, UK is a nice place to live, your are covered on NHS which makes you see the GP for free, and prescriptions cost 7.20each, crime rate here depends on the area you live in! heres a UK website which tells you about crime in an area http://www.police.uk/

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Post by ch33rup » Sun May 01, 2011 12:22 am

terriblescream wrote:
ch33rup wrote:
terriblescream wrote:Your welcome...!! I know how expensive immigration can be as I myself a Non-EU in the UK.

All thanks to EU, which gives you right to live and work in over 25 countries!
I agree with you 100%. The US is not what everyone makes it out to be. No jobs (although we've been lucky), health insurance is going down the hill, poor public schooling, very high crime, just to mention a few... Europe is a much better place these days
Agree, UK is a nice place to live, your are covered on NHS which makes you see the GP for free, and prescriptions cost 7.20each, crime rate here depends on the area you live in! heres a UK website which tells you about crime in an area http://www.police.uk/
Great information, thank you. Yes I miss just being able to go to the doctor and not getting a $500 bill per visit (and no that doesn't include prescriptions :lol: )

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Post by terriblescream » Sun May 01, 2011 12:24 am

Good Luck with your husband's application and future plans ;)

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Post by ch33rup » Sun May 01, 2011 12:26 am

Thank You very much for everything!

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