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The Danish govenment now refusing to comply with Zambrano

Post by MSH » Fri May 27, 2011 7:22 pm

The Danish ministry of integration have reached a conclusion on how to interpret and implement the Zambrano-ruling.

The Danish government stipulates that the third-country parent of the minor child with a Danish citizenship HAS TO BE THE FINANCIAL PROVIDER FOR, AS WELL AS LIVING IN DENMARK WITH, THEIR DANISH CHILD in order to claim a right of residence and a work permit as per Zambrano.

Since no foreigner applying for family reunification is allowed by law to work in Denmark until the decision to grant that foreigner family reunification with their Danish citizen spouse, the above cited condition of being the FINANCIAL PROVIDER for their Danish citizen child will never be fulfilled by anyone applying.

However, when reading the Zambrano-ruling, paras. 43-44 clearly state that:

"43 A refusal to grant a right of residence to a third country national with dependent minor children in the Member State where those children are nationals and reside, and also a refusal to grant such a person a work permit, has such an effect.

44 It must be assumed that such a refusal would lead to a situation where those children, citizens of the Union, would have to leave the territory of the Union in order to accompany their parents. (snip)"

Nothing in the Zambrano-ruling stipulates the third-country parent of the union citizen child has to be the FINANCIAL provider. 'Dependent' means 'relying on the emotional support and care of their parent'.

Another one for the Commission. When the HELL will they wake up and end the nazi-tyranny that is the Danish ultra-right wing government?!
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Fri May 27, 2011 8:45 pm

Do you have a link to anything the Danish government wrote, ideally in English for those of us who are Danish-challenged? Does the parent need to be legally living in Denmark?

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Post by MSH » Fri May 27, 2011 10:35 pm

Unfortunately no. The ministry have yet to put an English version of the text on their website. The Danish version is here:

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/da-dk/Nyheder/ ... dommen.htm

I'm sure they're in no rush to let the rest of the EU in on their latest shenanigans..

And yes, they stipulate clearly that the third-country parent has to be legally resident in Denmark in order to qualify for a Zambrano-based residence permit.

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Post by leonex4t5 » Sat May 28, 2011 11:50 am

if a third country national is living legally in denmark with their danish child, then they wouldn't need zambrano. i think it will be if third country national is living in denmark(doesnt have to be legally), hence it won't be compartible with the ecj ruling. Rem: Ruiz Zambrano was illegal in belgium.
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Post by leonex4t5 » Sat May 28, 2011 12:28 pm

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/da-dk/Nyheder/ ... dommen.htm

(ENGLISH TRANSLATION)



Legal assessment of Zambrano,cited
the ECJ ruled on 8 March 2011 ruling in the case Gerardo Ruiz Zambrano (C-34/09) v Office national de l'emploi, and the Ministry of Refugee, Immigration and Integration in a memo dated 11 May 2011 set out above, reach in relation to Danish law.


Facts
The case concerns a father (Mr. Zambrano) of two minor citizen children who are nationals of Belgium. Mr. Zambrano is the third (Colombian citizen) and dependent children in Belgium. Both citizen children have always stayed Belgium, and thus have never exercised their right to free movement in another EU Member State. EU Court of Justice in Zambrano case considered therefore the content of the rights attached to citizenship.


Citizenship resulting from the Treaty on European Union (TFEU) Articles 20 and 21


Court's conclusion
EU Court's conclusion was: "Article 20 TFEU be interpreted as meaning that it precludes a Member State, first denying a country who support his young children who are EU citizens resident in the Member State they reside and are citizens, and secondly, denying said third-country national a work permit, insofar as those decisions are actually depriving these children the effective enjoyment of the core content of the rights associated with the status of citizenship. "


Interpreting cited
the Ministry of Refugee, Immigration and Integration in a memo dated 11 May 2011 set out above, the importance of the immigration judicial administration.

it is assessed that the decision only in very few cases would lead to a residence permit under EU rules in Denmark, since children born in Denmark basically only acquire Danish nationality at birth if at least one parent is a Danish citizen.

The fact that you alone are born in Denmark, do not imply in itself that you get Danish citizenship at birth. The Ministry of Refugee,

Immigration and Integration Affairs has found that under Zambrano ruling that a third country national who is a parent of a minor citizen, which he dependents may distract residence after TFEU Article 20

Cited the specific emphasis on the following factors included in assessing whether Member States - Having regard to citizenship - must assign residence to one third of the Member State where his children live:


- The restriction of the right of residence is directed against a parent of a minor citizen child.
- Parents are third.
- Parent resident and parent the minor citizen child in the State where the child lives and is a national.
- The restriction of the right of residence shall have the effect of the minor citizen child actually deprived of the effective enjoyment of the core content of citizenship.


If the above factors present in an application for family reunification in Denmark, where, under national rules will be given an adverse decision will have cited the importance to be granted residence under Article 20 of TFEU.

There may be denied residence in regard to considerations of public order, safety and health under EU rules. EU court takes no position on Mrs. Zambrano residence, and the question of her residence will therefore continue to be determined by national regulations.

Zambrano ruling will, in principle, the effects of entry into force of the rule interpreted. In Zambrano ruling makes the ECJ a direct interpretation of Article 20 TFEU. This interpretation should be used upon entry into force of the Maastricht Treaty (1 November 1993), which introduced European citizenship.

The guidelines for the treatment of already decided cases that might be able to benefit the sentence, will be established as soon as possible. Further guidance will be published on nyidanmark.dk.
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Post by MSH » Sat May 28, 2011 2:07 pm

leonex4t5 wrote:if a third country national is living legally in denmark with their danish child, then they wouldn't need zambrano. i think it will be if third country national is living in denmark(doesnt have to be legally), hence it won't be compartible with the ecj ruling. Rem: Ruiz Zambrano was illegal in belgium.
Yes, that's exactly my point when I write that the Danish government is refusing to comply with Zambrano.

OBVIOUSLY, if the third-country parent is already legally resident and working to support his Danish (EU) citizen child they wouldn't need to apply in accordance with Zambrano. The Danish Foreign Service have already begun to reject applicants where one parent is Danish and the other a third-country national on the grounds that the EU citizen child can remain in Denmark with the Danish parent while the other is deported.

The Danish minister of integration have told me personally in a reply on his blog that he intends to interpret the Zambrano-ruling as narrowly and restrictively as possible. Clearly, he wasn't kidding.

As an aside, the same minister have now proposed a new addendum to the national laws on family unification in which he intends to facilitate easier access to family unification for 'white' applicants from 'developed', 'western' countries such as Canada, the US, New Zeeland, Australia and JAPAN(!).. these will not have to pass the immigration test as they are deemed civilised enough to be allowed easier access to the country.

Other third country national from places like Brazil or the Philipines will still have to fulfill all of the requirements such as putting up a bank guarantee for the sum of 100,000 DKK and pay for Danish lessons in their home country prior to entry to Denmark, a cost most language schools in Denmark have estimated will be in excess of 40-50,000 DKK.

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Post by leonex4t5 » Sat May 28, 2011 2:35 pm

In that case, for third country national parent who are refused and can prove durable family ties with the child, they can argue in national court that their deportation will breach the Article 8 of ECHR.
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Sun May 29, 2011 9:45 pm

Or could the Danish parent leave the country while the non-EU parent gets residence, and then return when that it done? The life twisting possibilities are mind boggling!

I would rather be with my who family and all move to another EU member state for a while.

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Post by leonex4t5 » Sun May 29, 2011 9:58 pm

Directive/2004/38/EC, Exactly... or the danish parent can sieze parental responsibility, until the non-EU parent gets residence. and also there will be arguements on where the danish parent is irresponsible or a crack head.
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