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ca.funke wrote:Hi malikscompany,
on arrival in the UK from Ireland there are routinely no checks.
If you want to make absolutely sure, you can go from wherever you live to Belfast(UK), and fly to London from there(domestic = no checks).
On departing the UK, there are no checks by border officials.
Of course there will be checks performed by the airline. But they only check if you´re good for entry into Ireland, they don´t care about your status in the UK.
The one thing you have to be most worried about is: On departure from Ireland the airline might think you´re not documented for entry into the UK, hence refuse you boarding. I recommend reading >>my own strategy to get onto the plane anyway<<. For this to apply you have to travel with your EU-partner though!
BTW: If you´re married to an EU-citizen, your deportation order from the UK is no longer relevant. So you can conveniently forget about that
Rgds, Christian
It really is a crime. The sentence can be a fine, prison, or both.malikscompany wrote:thank you very much friends. when we go from here they dont check if I need visa to go to UK or no, Kerry airport is too small and they still use papers not computer at the airport check in. anyway once I am in I dont think there will be any problem coming back to Ireland.
just one more thing, is really a criminal offence to enter UK when I have deportation order, and does someone know is it punishable by prison sentence or just a fine or something.
Thanks
it was a minor offence and I was given 2 months prison sentence, spent a month in prison and court recommended deportationPaperPusher wrote:It really is a crime. The sentence can be a fine, prison, or both.malikscompany wrote:thank you very much friends. when we go from here they dont check if I need visa to go to UK or no, Kerry airport is too small and they still use papers not computer at the airport check in. anyway once I am in I dont think there will be any problem coming back to Ireland.
just one more thing, is really a criminal offence to enter UK when I have deportation order, and does someone know is it punishable by prison sentence or just a fine or something.
Thanks
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
You haven't said what you were convicted of and what your sentence was.
Did you realized that, any deportation has procedure and it's subject to judicial review. But i feel sorry sometimes with the common law and equity sort of people.malikscompany wrote:it was a minor offence and I was given 2 months prison sentence, spent a month in prison and court recommended deportationPaperPusher wrote:It really is a crime. The sentence can be a fine, prison, or both.malikscompany wrote:thank you very much friends. when we go from here they dont check if I need visa to go to UK or no, Kerry airport is too small and they still use papers not computer at the airport check in. anyway once I am in I dont think there will be any problem coming back to Ireland.
just one more thing, is really a criminal offence to enter UK when I have deportation order, and does someone know is it punishable by prison sentence or just a fine or something.
Thanks
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
You haven't said what you were convicted of and what your sentence was.
angelcountry wrote:Did you realized that, any deportation has procedure and it's subject to judicial review. But i feel sorry sometimes with the common law and equity sort of people.malikscompany wrote:it was a minor offence and I was given 2 months prison sentence, spent a month in prison and court recommended deportationPaperPusher wrote:It really is a crime. The sentence can be a fine, prison, or both.malikscompany wrote:thank you very much friends. when we go from here they dont check if I need visa to go to UK or no, Kerry airport is too small and they still use papers not computer at the airport check in. anyway once I am in I dont think there will be any problem coming back to Ireland.
just one more thing, is really a criminal offence to enter UK when I have deportation order, and does someone know is it punishable by prison sentence or just a fine or something.
Thanks
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
You haven't said what you were convicted of and what your sentence was.
The subject matter is ''Deportation Order'' what do you mean millions of over-stayers ?PaperPusher wrote:Sorry angelcountry, but I do not understand your post. The OP can apply to the Secretary of State for the Home Department for the lifting of the deportation order. Until the OP does, they do have a deportation order against them. A deportation order is different to being removed from the UK for overstaying and so on.
angelcountry wrote:Did you realized that, any deportation has procedure and it's subject to judicial review. But i feel sorry sometimes with the common law and equity sort of people.malikscompany wrote:it was a minor offence and I was given 2 months prison sentence, spent a month in prison and court recommended deportationPaperPusher wrote:
It really is a crime. The sentence can be a fine, prison, or both.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
You haven't said what you were convicted of and what your sentence was.
angelcountry wrote:The subject matter is ''Deportation Order'' what do you mean millions of over-stayers ?PaperPusher wrote:Sorry angelcountry, but I do not understand your post. The OP can apply to the Secretary of State for the Home Department for the lifting of the deportation order. Until the OP does, they do have a deportation order against them. A deportation order is different to being removed from the UK for overstaying and so on.
angelcountry wrote:Did you realized that, any deportation has procedure and it's subject to judicial review. But i feel sorry sometimes with the common law and equity sort of people.malikscompany wrote:
it was a minor offence and I was given 2 months prison sentence, spent a month in prison and court recommended deportation
In fact, i don't even think you reach deportation stage rather than a threat of recommendation, and mind you don't upset yourself because i am telling you the fact.
You barely make sense to me aswell, and why do you have to form a topic unrelated to Irish Immigration under ireland in the first instance ?PaperPusher wrote:The topic is actually about UK immigration policy, although it is in the Ireland section.
Deportation orders are given to criminals. Immigration offenders of the more usual kind such as overstayers are removed through an administrative process, not deported.
Nowhere in my post will you see the word "millions"
You barely make any sense at all angelcountry.
angelcountry wrote:The subject matter is ''Deportation Order'' what do you mean millions of over-stayers ?PaperPusher wrote:Sorry angelcountry, but I do not understand your post. The OP can apply to the Secretary of State for the Home Department for the lifting of the deportation order. Until the OP does, they do have a deportation order against them. A deportation order is different to being removed from the UK for overstaying and so on.
angelcountry wrote:
Did you realized that, any deportation has procedure and it's subject to judicial review. But i feel sorry sometimes with the common law and equity sort of people.
In fact, i don't even think you reach deportation stage rather than a threat of recommendation, and mind you don't upset yourself because i am telling you the fact.
That will not happen if someone has been deported. The deportation order needs to be revoked first.IQU wrote:i think you should apply for tourist visa.you will get within 2 weeks.also please give them true details about yours offence current status etc....
Can you check the forum, and count how many of you often write some absurd comment that, you couldn't understand the french i wrote, and as a law student which you're not, then you continue to write comment that, i don't know what i am contributing about without any counter motion argument so suggest that, my contribution lack facts in elements. But i don't mind what you wrote but it made me realize my argument is of a profound ground, otherwise back your ''subjected irrelevant comments made by me'' with pillars and case law, then i will definitely stop contributing. thanks.Casa wrote:Angelcountry, I'm unable to understand your post either. If you don't have anything worthwhile to contribute, please don't post. You're simply confusing the thread.
by the sound of things you are an insult to any law student already. people don't want you here, nor do they want your comment. they're useless most of the time in anycase. get the message!!!angelcountry wrote:Can you check the forum, and count how many of you often write some absurd comment that, you couldn't understand the french i wrote, and as a law student which you're not, then you continue to write comment that, i don't know what i am contributing about without any counter motion argument so suggest that, my contribution lack facts in elements. But i don't mind what you wrote but it made me realize my argument is of a profound ground, otherwise back your ''subjected irrelevant comments made by me'' with pillars and case law, then i will definitely stop contributing. thanks.
I dont know you so, am less bothered about what you say, But I thank my God for what, i have achieved so far in your white control education system, i guess you will be regretting to have let me, otherwise you could have framed it aswell, but if you don't want me here after 11 year please try it if you can ?MidnightHawk wrote:I dont think i am a disgrace to blacks and muslim student, but Irish student that comes into examination hall with textbooks what are you telling me, you want more or charges in court for that aswell ?angelcountry wrote:Can you check the forum, and count how many of you often write some absurd comment that, you couldn't understand the french i wrote, and as a law student which you're not, then you continue to write comment that, i don't know what i am contributing about without any counter motion argument so suggest that, my contribution lack facts in elements. But i don't mind what you wrote but it made me realize my argument is of a profound ground, otherwise back your ''subjected irrelevant comments made by me'' with pillars and case law, then i will definitely stop contributing. thanks.
by the sound of things you are an insult to any law student already. people don't want you here, nor do they want your comment. they're useless most of the time in anycase. get the message!!!
You can travel to London with your spouse as you mentioned that you have EUFAM stamp but you do not require any visas to please Immigration officers in England (in theory) only the airline who will check your passport at Kerry airport. There is absolutely no checks at any English airports of visas for flights from Ireland as they classed as local flights (Belfast/Scotland/Jersey etc). The only immigration check you will face is coming back into Ireland at Irish airport.malikscompany wrote:my cousin went to luton from kerry and said that there was no immgration control and he was looking for immigration officer to stamp his passport but nobody was there.
have someone recently been to Luton from Ireland? can someone please confirm that is there any kind of immigration control at luton airport ?? I have stamp 4 eufam, have been living legally since last 4 years in Ireland and now working too, my father in Law is very ill and doctors said that he does not have much time, I want to see him on any price so thinking to go to UK this week, I have outstanding deportation order from UK which is still valid so cant apply for visa.
i can trnsit without visa so might just transit for 24 hours to see him, any advice would be appreciated.
God Bless
I did apply for visa 2 years ago and embassy refused, they are so stupid. I have been married to my wife since 5 years and home office accepted our marriege but UK embassy dublin said that I married to gain ''re admision'' in UK, it does not even make any sence coz I married when I was in UK. its like they just want to put any objection.IQU wrote:i think you should apply for tourist visa.you will get within 2 weeks.also please give them true details about yours offence current status etc....
there is no check for EU nationals, for example if you go to London Gatwick from Shannon or Cork Immigration take your boarding pass at Gatwick and they have a look at that, if you are EU citizen they dont ask anything coz it say on bording pass what nationality are you. if it sayd ''Visa Check '' then you have to go to a counter. I think its only Luton where there is no checkfatty patty wrote:You can travel to London with your spouse as you mentioned that you have EUFAM stamp but you do not require any visas to please Immigration officers in England (in theory) only the airline who will check your passport at Kerry airport. There is absolutely no checks at any English airports of visas for flights from Ireland as they classed as local flights (Belfast/Scotland/Jersey etc). The only immigration check you will face is coming back into Ireland at Irish airport.malikscompany wrote:my cousin went to luton from kerry and said that there was no immgration control and he was looking for immigration officer to stamp his passport but nobody was there.
have someone recently been to Luton from Ireland? can someone please confirm that is there any kind of immigration control at luton airport ?? I have stamp 4 eufam, have been living legally since last 4 years in Ireland and now working too, my father in Law is very ill and doctors said that he does not have much time, I want to see him on any price so thinking to go to UK this week, I have outstanding deportation order from UK which is still valid so cant apply for visa.
i can trnsit without visa so might just transit for 24 hours to see him, any advice would be appreciated.
God Bless
There are no immigration checks for flights from Ireland to UK once they arrive in UK malikscompany all the airport staff at UK ports are checking for is your origin on your boarding pass not your nationality status. Visa check is on Ryanair's boarding pass for non-eu citizens, they have to show/turn up at Ryanair visa desks to verify there visas before flying over. And its not just ryanair all airlines check visas before they let the passenger board the plane.malikscompany wrote:there is no check for EU nationals, for example if you go to London Gatwick from Shannon or Cork Immigration take your boarding pass at Gatwick and they have a look at that, if you are EU citizen they dont ask anything coz it say on bording pass what nationality are you. if it sayd ''Visa Check '' then you have to go to a counter. I think its only Luton where there is no checkfatty patty wrote:You can travel to London with your spouse as you mentioned that you have EUFAM stamp but you do not require any visas to please Immigration officers in England (in theory) only the airline who will check your passport at Kerry airport. There is absolutely no checks at any English airports of visas for flights from Ireland as they classed as local flights (Belfast/Scotland/Jersey etc). The only immigration check you will face is coming back into Ireland at Irish airport.malikscompany wrote:my cousin went to luton from kerry and said that there was no immgration control and he was looking for immigration officer to stamp his passport but nobody was there.
have someone recently been to Luton from Ireland? can someone please confirm that is there any kind of immigration control at luton airport ?? I have stamp 4 eufam, have been living legally since last 4 years in Ireland and now working too, my father in Law is very ill and doctors said that he does not have much time, I want to see him on any price so thinking to go to UK this week, I have outstanding deportation order from UK which is still valid so cant apply for visa.
i can trnsit without visa so might just transit for 24 hours to see him, any advice would be appreciated.
God Bless
fatty patty wrote:There are no immigration checks for flights from Ireland to UK once they arrive in UK malikscompany all the airport staff at UK ports are checking for is your origin on your boarding pass not your nationality status. Visa check is on Ryanair's boarding pass for non-eu citizens, they have to show/turn up at Ryanair visa desks to verify there visas before flying over. And its not just ryanair all airlines check visas before they let the passenger board the plane.malikscompany wrote:there is no check for EU nationals, for example if you go to London Gatwick from Shannon or Cork Immigration take your boarding pass at Gatwick and they have a look at that, if you are EU citizen they dont ask anything coz it say on bording pass what nationality are you. if it sayd ''Visa Check '' then you have to go to a counter. I think its only Luton where there is no checkfatty patty wrote:You can travel to London with your spouse as you mentioned that you have EUFAM stamp but you do not require any visas to please Immigration officers in England (in theory) only the airline who will check your passport at Kerry airport. There is absolutely no checks at any English airports of visas for flights from Ireland as they classed as local flights (Belfast/Scotland/Jersey etc). The only immigration check you will face is coming back into Ireland at Irish airport.malikscompany wrote:my cousin went to luton from kerry and said that there was no immgration control and he was looking for immigration officer to stamp his passport but nobody was there.
have someone recently been to Luton from Ireland? can someone please confirm that is there any kind of immigration control at luton airport ?? I have stamp 4 eufam, have been living legally since last 4 years in Ireland and now working too, my father in Law is very ill and doctors said that he does not have much time, I want to see him on any price so thinking to go to UK this week, I have outstanding deportation order from UK which is still valid so cant apply for visa.
i can trnsit without visa so might just transit for 24 hours to see him, any advice would be appreciated.
God Bless
thanks. I dont think I'll have problem getting in the plane from ireland. I dont want to go through Belfast coz it'll be illegal entry but from Irish airport is fine, mexmum they can do is refuse entry and send me back to ireland. am I right ??fatty patty wrote:There are no immigration checks for flights from Ireland to UK once they arrive in UK malikscompany all the airport staff at UK ports are checking for is your origin on your boarding pass not your nationality status. Visa check is on Ryanair's boarding pass for non-eu citizens, they have to show/turn up at Ryanair visa desks to verify there visas before flying over. And its not just ryanair all airlines check visas before they let the passenger board the plane.malikscompany wrote:there is no check for EU nationals, for example if you go to London Gatwick from Shannon or Cork Immigration take your boarding pass at Gatwick and they have a look at that, if you are EU citizen they dont ask anything coz it say on bording pass what nationality are you. if it sayd ''Visa Check '' then you have to go to a counter. I think its only Luton where there is no checkfatty patty wrote:You can travel to London with your spouse as you mentioned that you have EUFAM stamp but you do not require any visas to please Immigration officers in England (in theory) only the airline who will check your passport at Kerry airport. There is absolutely no checks at any English airports of visas for flights from Ireland as they classed as local flights (Belfast/Scotland/Jersey etc). The only immigration check you will face is coming back into Ireland at Irish airport.malikscompany wrote:my cousin went to luton from kerry and said that there was no immgration control and he was looking for immigration officer to stamp his passport but nobody was there.
have someone recently been to Luton from Ireland? can someone please confirm that is there any kind of immigration control at luton airport ?? I have stamp 4 eufam, have been living legally since last 4 years in Ireland and now working too, my father in Law is very ill and doctors said that he does not have much time, I want to see him on any price so thinking to go to UK this week, I have outstanding deportation order from UK which is still valid so cant apply for visa.
i can trnsit without visa so might just transit for 24 hours to see him, any advice would be appreciated.
God Bless