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Looking for offers of potential work for my Egyptian fiance

Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:42 pm

Hi all,

My fiance and I are applying for a visa and it has been suggested that we get a letter from a potential employer. This must state that this employer would be prepared to offer my fiance work on a trial basis as soon as the visa is granted. I do not know anyone personally who is able to do this for me so I will approach local businesses such as hotels and restaurants to begin with, although my fiance is open, willing and able to take a wide range of opportunities.

He is qualified in Egypt to work as an electrician and also is skilled and highly experienced in the sports and leisure industry ie. personal trainer, sports Spammy Spammer etc. He has also experience in catering having worked in various hotels. Any of these avenues would be great. Alternatively he would be happy in any outdoor physical work.

Does anyone here have any contacts willing to supply such a letter on headed paper please? - Bearing in mind that the supplier of any correspondance of this nature would be in no way obligated but would only need to confirm that they would potentially offer work should they be contacted by the UKBA.

Failing that does anyone have any ideas on how to get these offers of work? People MUST get them from somewhere sometimes. Oh if only I had family who could help!

Many thanks in advance folks :)

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Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:09 pm

Anyone? Anyone at all? I'm kinda short of replies here! :cry:

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Re: Looking for offers of potential work for my Egyptian fia

Post by PaperPusher » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:43 pm

Offers of employment have to be genuine offers to carry any weight.
catwoman wrote:Hi all,

My fiance and I are applying for a visa and it has been suggested that we get a letter from a potential employer. This must state that this employer would be prepared to offer my fiance work on a trial basis as soon as the visa is granted. I do not know anyone personally who is able to do this for me so I will approach local businesses such as hotels and restaurants to begin with, although my fiance is open, willing and able to take a wide range of opportunities.

He is qualified in Egypt to work as an electrician and also is skilled and highly experienced in the sports and leisure industry ie. personal trainer, sports Spammy Spammer etc. He has also experience in catering having worked in various hotels. Any of these avenues would be great. Alternatively he would be happy in any outdoor physical work.

Does anyone here have any contacts willing to supply such a letter on headed paper please? - Bearing in mind that the supplier of any correspondance of this nature would be in no way obligated but would only need to confirm that they would potentially offer work should they be contacted by the UKBA.

Failing that does anyone have any ideas on how to get these offers of work? People MUST get them from somewhere sometimes. Oh if only I had family who could help!

Many thanks in advance folks :)

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Post by mulderpf » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:43 pm

What visa are you applying for?

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Post by Lucapooka » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:45 pm

Why do you you need this? Are you not able to support him from your current resources?

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Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:33 pm

mulderpf wrote:What visa are you applying for?
We are applying for a fiance visa

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Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:36 pm

Lucapooka wrote:Why do you you need this? Are you not able to support him from your current resources?
No I am not able to support him as I suffer with a longterm illness which prevents me from working more than about 20hrs/wk. I am not able to support him alone so I have a family member who will stand as co-sponsor for us. I think an offer of a job will strengthen out chances of getting the visa.

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Post by Lucapooka » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:02 pm

If you are in receipt of disability benefits these can be used in support of your maintenance.

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Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:26 pm

Lucapooka wrote:If you are in receipt of disability benefits these can be used in support of your maintenance.
Thank you for your reply. I was in receipt of ESA but not DLA. I was told that ESA will not be taken into account for income. I am now looking for work which I can manage but I am anxious because even if I find work for 16 hrs/wk (I know I will qualify for tax credits which will count) my health will deteriorate as a result. I just need to get throught the next 3/4 months then I can take stock again depending on the decision re the fiance visa. Unfortunately because my condition is not recognised, and depite the fact that every dr I have seen knows that I will not get better and I will be lucky to have a "good" day, I do not qualify for longterm support. That's life eh?

So anyone who can potentially offer any work, their help would be gratefully received. I have my wedding dress, shoes, jewellery, date for the "big day"....everything..... just not the man in the country we plan to marry in. :cry:

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Re: Looking for offers of potential work for my Egyptian fia

Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:31 pm

[quote="PaperPusher"]Offers of employment have to be genuine offers to carry any weight.

We would genuinely welcome GENUINE offers of employment. My request was genuine. I am sorry if it sounded like I was trying to pull a fast one. I just do not really expect anyone would want to promise to employ a stranger that they have not even met.

Sorry only just spotted this post. :oops:

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Post by PaperPusher » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:45 pm

"Does anyone here have any contacts willing to supply such a letter on headed paper please? - Bearing in mind that the supplier of any correspondance of this nature would be in no way obligated but would only need to confirm that they would potentially offer work should they be contacted by the UKBA."

The above does sound a bit dodgy to be honest. What use is a potential offer of employment in any case? I would say it is not much use.

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Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:53 pm

PaperPusher wrote:"Does anyone here have any contacts willing to supply such a letter on headed paper please? - Bearing in mind that the supplier of any correspondance of this nature would be in no way obligated but would only need to confirm that they would potentially offer work should they be contacted by the UKBA."

The above does sound a bit dodgy to be honest. What use is a potential offer of employment in any case? I would say it is not much use.
As I said, I am not really expecting anyone to just say "Yes, I'll give a stranger a job!" I apologise again. Please understand I find myself in a new and strange scenario of which I have no experience. This week not only am I trying to find work for myself (partially incapacitated and for the past 3 yrs only having p/t self employment - I have held some good and responsible posts) in a tough market, but I am hoping to find opportunities for someone who has never even been to this country. Forgive me for coming across badly, but this situation is more than a little overwhelming. I worded it badly but I did so in all honesty not really expecting good results. Hey, it would be fantastic if I was to be pleasantly surprised! I guess I've been battered by this world and I don't really expect it to give me anything back. Sorry.

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Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:04 pm

PaperPusher wrote:"Does anyone here have any contacts willing to supply such a letter on headed paper please? - Bearing in mind that the supplier of any correspondance of this nature would be in no way obligated but would only need to confirm that they would potentially offer work should they be contacted by the UKBA."

The above does sound a bit dodgy to be honest. What use is a potential offer of employment in any case? I would say it is not much use.
It's no problem for me to arrange for a potential employer to receive a CV, contact details and online interview btw. We would be grateful for the opportunity.

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Post by Lucapooka » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:27 pm

I think the issue here is one of credibility with regard to a genuine sustainable offer of employment that would cover the maintenance requirements that are currently lacking. What special skill-set does your partner have that might convince an employer in the UK to offer him a job and wait patiently for his hitherto uncertain arrival in the UK, rather than simply sourcing a similar employee now from the local labour pool. The ECO might wonder about this also!

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Post by catwoman » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:31 pm

Lucapooka wrote:I think the issue here is one of credibility with regard to a genuine sustainable offer of employment that would cover the maintenance requirements that are currently lacking. What special skill-set does your partner have that might convince an employer in the UK to offer him a job and wait for his his hitherto uncertain arrival in the UK, rather than simply sourcing a similar employee now from the local labour pool. The ECO might wonder about this also!
Yes Lucapooka thank you. This is the question exactly. I am acting on the advice given to me by a solicitor, however, easier said than done. Hence my initial trepidation and the resulting poorly worded initial post. Thanks for your replies.

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Post by mulderpf » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:26 am

You are NOT allowed to work on a fiancée visa. Any indication that your fiance intends to work in the UK will mean a rejection of the visa.

In addition to this, your fiance must also show that he has enough money to support and accommodate himself without recourse from public funds or with help from you.

I am not sure why someone gave you the advice to show that he intends to work here, because it will lead to an outright rejection as it is completely against the rules of a fiance visa.

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Post by catwoman » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:41 am

mulderpf wrote:You are NOT allowed to work on a fiancée visa. Any indication that your fiance intends to work in the UK will mean a rejection of the visa.

In addition to this, your fiance must also show that he has enough money to support and accommodate himself without recourse from public funds or with help from you.

I am not sure why someone gave you the advice to show that he intends to work here, because it will lead to an outright rejection as it is completely against the rules of a fiance visa.
Yes I realise that my fiance cannot work on a fiance visa and I know that he must show that he can support himself without recourse to public funds. He has savings and I can accomodate him without a problem. This advice was given so as to "cover all bases" inpreparation for the receipt of the marriage visa, I assume. As you can see from previous posts, I can see the problems faced by a potential employer with regards to giving a promise of employment and yes the fact that he is not even here on a fiance visa is another.

Nevermind, I can see it is more trouble than reward.

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Post by catwoman » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:46 am

mulderpf wrote:You are NOT allowed to work on a fiancée visa. Any indication that your fiance intends to work in the UK will mean a rejection of the visa.
Good point here. Could be counter productive. Maybe I've just had bad advice.... :roll:

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Post by mulderpf » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:58 am

Here's some good advice: don't look for or create or generate or try to find any letter like that, even if it is only in preparation of a marriage visa. When applying for a fiance visa, you have to clearly show that you have absolutely no intentions of working. Even for a marriage visa, having any sort of job offer will not strengthen your case. What will strengthen your case is either having enough savings to cover himself for 6 months for you to have a good enough income (not public funds) to cover you two for 6 months.

Not only will a letter of potential employment be counter-productive, but your fiance's visa will be denied instantly and if you get past that stage and he enters into the UK and shows any intention of working, his visa will be cancelled.

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Post by catwoman » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:03 am

mulderpf wrote:Here's some good advice: don't look for or create or generate or try to find any letter like that, even if it is only in preparation of a marriage visa. When applying for a fiance visa, you have to clearly show that you have absolutely no intentions of working. Even for a marriage visa, having any sort of job offer will not strengthen your case. What will strengthen your case is either having enough savings to cover himself for 6 months for you to have a good enough income (not public funds) to cover you two for 6 months.

Not only will a letter of potential employment be counter-productive, but your fiance's visa will be denied instantly and if you get past that stage and he enters into the UK and shows any intention of working, his visa will be cancelled.
Thanks mulderpf. I think that really is sound advice. I am quite sure we have enough funds to cover ourselves for 6 months. I was just emailing the solicitor to convey one or two of the points that have been raised throughout this thread and I will make your point too. Thanks. You have helped me put my mind at rest and reclarified the points in hand. Much appreciated - I was beginning to get quite exasperated.

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