Worried Sponsorship License - Please Help

[koolguykvs]

Hi Gurus,
My company has offered to sponsor me and the problem is it doesnt have license. Since Aug,2011 i have been working with management with this and now we have reached a point where we are ready to apply for license. I know its late but all of us were on this issue. My visa is till March 1,2012. We have all documents ready and HR has filled the application almost and ready to send documents. Even if they apply by next monday, i am worried about time line, taking 6 weeks as average time line(also its christmas time). Will i be able to make a visa application. Suppose if company gets licese by Feb 1st or 2nd week, how many days will it take to issue CoS for a new company. And will i be able to apply visa. Can you please give info on this.

Thanks in advance.

[madona587]

Hi Gurus,
My company has offered to sponsor me and the problem is it doesnt have license. Since Aug,2011 i have been working with management with this and now we have reached a point where we are ready to apply for license. I know its late but all of us were on this issue. My visa is till March 1,2012. We have all documents ready and HR has filled the application almost and ready to send documents. Even if they apply by next monday, i am worried about time line, taking 6 weeks as average time line(also its christmas time). Will i be able to make a visa application. Suppose if company gets licese by Feb 1st or 2nd week, how many days will it take to issue CoS for a new company. And will i be able to apply visa. Can you please give info on this.

Thanks in advance.

Your HR should make the application and submit the documents ASAP so you have a chance. The longer you wait the riskier it gets, Make sure the documents are 100% correct or you will have a big problem if they refuse you. Trust me I was in the same situation as you. (Failed 2 times by not submitting documents correctly) Make it clear to HR that any mistake could cost you everything.

If everything is done correctly you should get the license and COS allocations. Assigning the COS is instant ! So do your research and make sure you know your SOC for your job title and earn the appropriate salary. It will come in handy. Make sure your HR don't put the WRONG SOC code. It happens often. Start gathering the necessary documents from now onwards so you don't panic at the last minute. License and COS is out of your hands but rest is. So be prepared from your end and hope for the best.

With your limited time make NO MISTAKES.

[koolguykvs]

Hi Gurus,
My company has offered to sponsor me and the problem is it doesnt have license. Since Aug,2011 i have been working with management with this and now we have reached a point where we are ready to apply for license. I know its late but all of us were on this issue. My visa is till March 1,2012. We have all documents ready and HR has filled the application almost and ready to send documents. Even if they apply by next monday, i am worried about time line, taking 6 weeks as average time line(also its christmas time). Will i be able to make a visa application. Suppose if company gets licese by Feb 1st or 2nd week, how many days will it take to issue CoS for a new company. And will i be able to apply visa. Can you please give info on this.

Thanks in advance.

Your HR should make the application and submit the documents ASAP so you have a chance. The longer you wait the riskier it gets, Make sure the documents are 100% correct or you will have a big problem if they refuse you. Trust me I was in the same situation as you. (Failed 2 times by not submitting documents correctly) Make it clear to HR that any mistake could cost you everything.

If everything is done correctly you should get the license and COS allocations. Assigning the COS is instant ! So do your research and make sure you know your SOC for your job title and earn the appropriate salary. It will come in handy. Make sure your HR don't put the WRONG SOC code. It happens often. Start gathering the necessary documents from now onwards so you don't panic at the last minute. License and COS is out of your hands but rest is. So be prepared from your end and hope for the best.

With your limited time make NO MISTAKES.

Hi Madona,
All the documents are ready and i think HR guy is doing them as required and he said he is going to send more than 4 documents to UKBA. He seems to be confident about that, also i will check again with him. One more question: where do we specify SOC code, is it while applying license or on CoS. ??? Also what documents need to be ready from my side can you please brief me??


Thanks

[madona587]

It's always good to send more documents

You don't specify the SOC when you apply for a license. You do this only when you have your COS allocated and then ready to assign. So first wait till your company gets the license and COS allocations.

Once your HR is ready to assign your COS you must check the SOC to find your job description then find the job title that closely matches with your job description, then look for appropriate salary required for that job title. You must put these details when the HR assigns you the COS.

Once you get the COS you can apply for TIER2 general with additional documents required per guidance.

What documents you should submit depends on your circumstance. Are you switching from PSW or TIER4?

I think you should read the TIER2 Guidance. Google it..

[koolguykvs]

Thanks for you response Madona.

OK i will wait till the company gets license You said CoS is instant and we need to put SOC code on CoS. How will they verify that we have put right code?? My question is if i am issued CoS can i take that as they have verified and approved my SOC and i am ready to apply for visa????

By the way i am swtiching from PSW and i will be prepared from my side

[madona587]

Thanks for you response Madona.

OK i will wait till the company gets license You said CoS is instant and we need to put SOC code on CoS. How will they verify that we have put right code?? My question is if i am issued CoS can i take that as they have verified and approved my SOC and i am ready to apply for visa????

By the way i am swtiching from PSW and i will be prepared from my side

There is no way to verify this 100%. Check the SOC and look for a job description that matches your job closely. I think case workers refer to this SOC. It's all up to your HR guys. I hope they know what they are doing. No they can easily put a wrong code. Like I said its up to their knowledge.

If you are switching from PSW then,

1. Ensure you are paid the required salary as specified in SOC. You don't have to earn the X amount for any period but you must be paid that amount from the day you apply for TIER2

2. Ensure that if your job is in a SOC which requires you to be paid based on hourly rate not annual then you must calculate your earnings based on 37.5hrs a week. (You can't work more hours to match the SOC's required salary. if your job is required to be paid on annual you can put anything from 37.5 - 40hrs a week.

3. If you work for your employer for more than 6 months they do not have to do a RLMT. If not they must do one. If you are working for more than 6 months you are exempted from RMLT.

4. Provide last 6 months payslips to prove you are working for the period.

5. You must submit English requirement proves (Degree certificates, English test results etc) as needed.

There are few more documents you should submit I can't remember...

I suggest you read the guidelines it seems you are not following my suggestion. Policy guidance has everything you need.

[koolguykvs]

Thanks again Madona.


1. I think i have lots of hurdles to cross. License is on their side. Then i have to request them to increase my salary (which is not easy as there is significant difference between what i get and what i need to be paid as per code). So the verification is, they check my job description against the code that i put and then salary and will approve that its appropriate. Am i right????

2. I have checked this and i think point 1 covers this.


3. I have worked for more than 6months. So no RMLT required


4. OK. will provide these.


5. Is my Masters Degree Sufficient??? As my IELTS score is more than 2 yrs old.


OK i will check the guidance. I am really pleased with you response and sorry if i am bothering you again

[madona587]

Thanks again Madona.


1. I think i have lots of hurdles to cross. License is on their side. Then i have to request them to increase my salary (which is not easy as there is significant difference between what i get and what i need to be paid as per code). So the verification is, they check my job description against the code that i put and then salary and will approve that its appropriate. Am i right????

2. I have checked this and i think point 1 covers this.


3. I have worked for more than 6months. So no RMLT required


4. OK. will provide these.


5. Is my Masters Degree Sufficient??? As my IELTS score is more than 2 yrs old.


OK i will check the guidance. I am really pleased with you response and sorry if i am bothering you again

Yes that's correct. You must be paid that amount when you make the application. You got lot of convincing left to do ! I hope your boss is nice. Don't lose hope bro. Try your best you got nothing to lose. Good luck.

If you have a Masters check here and see if it qualifies..

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/pointscalculator

If you need any other help post here.

P.S: What's your job and how much you are paid now if you don't mind? Also what SOC code you found for your job title?

[koolguykvs]

Yes that's correct. You must be paid that amount when you make the application. You got lot of convincing left to do ! I hope your boss is nice. Don't lose hope bro. Try your best you got nothing to lose. Good luck.

If you have a Masters check here and see if it qualifies..

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/pointscalculator

If you need any other help post here.

P.S: What's your job and how much you are paid now if you don't mind? Also what SOC code you found for your job title?

Thanks for your support Madona. I know that i have nothing to loose but i dont want to. This is important for me and thats the reason i am worried.


I have used the points calculator and it says i get 10 points for the degree i have studied in UK.

One more doubt, do i need to maintain any funds in my bank as part of this process????

I am a software tester, right now i am paid 22K. The code that i found is 2312(J) and the closest matching my profile are Test Analyst(28K) and Test Engineer(32K). Dont know what to do. Just worried about this. Any hope???

[madona587]

Yes that's correct. You must be paid that amount when you make the application. You got lot of convincing left to do ! I hope your boss is nice. Don't lose hope bro. Try your best you got nothing to lose. Good luck.

If you have a Masters check here and see if it qualifies..

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/pointscalculator

If you need any other help post here.

P.S: What's your job and how much you are paid now if you don't mind? Also what SOC code you found for your job title?

Thanks for your support Madona. I know that i have nothing to loose but i dont want to. This is important for me and thats the reason i am worried.


I have used the points calculator and it says i get 10 points for the degree i have studied in UK.

One more doubt, do i need to maintain any funds in my bank as part of this process????

I am a software tester, right now i am paid 22K. The code that i found is 2312(J) and the closest matching my profile are Test Analyst(28K) and Test Engineer(32K). Dont know what to do. Just worried about this. Any hope???

Sorry what I meant was if you don't get the necessary pay-rise you have no other options in regards to TIER2. I know mate we all in the same boat

No you don't have to maintain any funds

Job title is something you can't do anything about unfortunately. Just pray your company agrees to give you the necessary rise. Because your job is unique and not generic it will be difficult to find an alternative title. To my knowledge everything depends on that pay-rise. Even if you get your license and COS you wont get a visa unless your pay matches the SOC. So I suggest you speak to your employers ASAP. Because if your HR puts the wrong SOC and you don't get the necessary pay you will be refused and if your PSW runs out by this time you are in lot of trouble.

I can safely say you only got 1 shot given your time line and circumstances..

Good luck mate. Keep me updated

[geriatrix]

Hi Gurus,
Here is my situation. My company is applying for sponsor license and i have 2 months before my visa expires. I need to get the license for company and then CoS and then apply for visa. There is hell lot of process to go. My Visa expires on 24th Feb and my company is yet to apply(hopefully will apply byt this weekend.)

Even if they do i am having very little hopes of making a successful visa application. So can please suggest me what is the next best thing i can do. if had to leave the country and make an out of country application, will it count as new job (as i have already worked for more than 1 year). What would be the best thing that i need to do. Please suggest me. I am in bit of dilemma

Thanks

What is you current immigration status? Why do you think your tier 2 application will not succeed?

[koolguykvs]

Sorry Sush. I dont think it was a duplicate thread. Anyways i will continue here. Please post your suggestions.

[madona587]

Sorry Sush. I dont think it was a duplicate thread. Anyways i will continue here. Please post your suggestions.

hi luca,
right now i am on PSW visa valid till 24th Feb,2012. As there is very limited time (2 months) my company has to get license (atleast 4-6 weeks) then to be issued CoS(which might take one day to 3 weeks as it depends) and then i have to make visa application. Taking all these into consideration i feel it will be very tight for me. What if the company get license and CoS and i have no time apply the visa.

Or else what if the company gets license after i leave the country. I am just considering all the cases. I need some experts suggestion what would be the best step to be prepared for worse situation.

This only applies when you request a increase in cos allocation. When your company applies for a license they can ask for the number of COS allocations they need. So if the registration is successful you will be given the allocation with your license. Then its a matter of assigning it to you which shouldn't take more than 10-15 mins.

Say you got your COS and made a TIER2 application and say its refused you can't reuse the COS again. For this you must request a new cos from your employer. If they have extra unused allocations they can assign it to you and if they don't then they must request an increase which will take anything from a day to 3 weeks.

Hope its clear now.

[koolguykvs]

This only applies when you request a increase in cos allocation. When your company applies for a license they can ask for the number of COS allocations they need. So if the registration is successful you will be given the allocation with your license. Then its a matter of assigning it to you which shouldn't take more than 10-15 mins.

Say you got your COS and made a TIER2 application and say its refused you can't reuse the COS again. For this you must request a new cos from your employer. If they have extra unused allocations they can assign it to you and if they don't then they must request an increase which will take anything from a day to 3 weeks.

Hope its clear now.

Thanks again madona.

But my actual worry is about the whole process rather than just CoS. I have exactly 2 months time in which company has to get license and myself visa. I was looking at the options what if i had to leave the country. what is the best thing that i need to do before i leave. How difficult is RLMT ?? Please give me your suggestions. I am bit worried

Thanks

[madona587]

This only applies when you request a increase in cos allocation. When your company applies for a license they can ask for the number of COS allocations they need. So if the registration is successful you will be given the allocation with your license. Then its a matter of assigning it to you which shouldn't take more than 10-15 mins.

Say you got your COS and made a TIER2 application and say its refused you can't reuse the COS again. For this you must request a new cos from your employer. If they have extra unused allocations they can assign it to you and if they don't then they must request an increase which will take anything from a day to 3 weeks.

Hope its clear now.

Thanks again madona.

But my actual worry is about the whole process rather than just CoS. I have exactly 2 months time in which company has to get license and myself visa. I was looking at the options what if i had to leave the country. what is the best thing that i need to do before i leave. How difficult is RLMT ?? Please give me your suggestions. I am bit worried

Thanks

I totally understand your concerns.

You have 2 months to get the license which is a good thing cause lot of people don't have that much time. This can be done within 2 months. Like I said before to succeed your company must make sure to do the application process correctly and submit the original or certified documents. If they have done this then there is nothing to worry. You can apply within days of getting the license so don't worry too much. Just pray it gets processed sooner.

RLMT is not that difficult but making an out of country application is a bit more complicated. You need a restricted COS and there is an annual limit on number of RCOS so on.. Try your best to get it done in country.

You should keep it as the last option.

[koolguykvs]

I totally understand your concerns.

You have 2 months to get the license which is a good thing cause lot of people don't have that much time. This can be done within 2 months. Like I said before to succeed your company must make sure to do the application process correctly and submit the original or certified documents. If they have done this then there is nothing to worry. You can apply within days of getting the license so don't worry too much. Just pray it gets processed sooner.

RLMT is not that difficult but making an out of country application is a bit more complicated. You need a restricted COS and there is an annual limit on number of RCOS so on.. Try your best to get it done in country.

You should keep it as the last option.

I agree with you madona. The best thing for me to do is an in-country application. I am preparing myself for the worst case scenario. As this is christmas season there might be slight delays in every process. Taking that into account what if my company get license and i had to leave the country. Do i need to make application as new employee. After i leave can i still claim the 1year that i worked with company? What is RLMT? Who need to take that test. What are the chances of passing that test.??

Please dont mind the number of questions. Hope you will try to understand

[madona587]

I totally understand your concerns.

You have 2 months to get the license which is a good thing cause lot of people don't have that much time. This can be done within 2 months. Like I said before to succeed your company must make sure to do the application process correctly and submit the original or certified documents. If they have done this then there is nothing to worry. You can apply within days of getting the license so don't worry too much. Just pray it gets processed sooner.

RLMT is not that difficult but making an out of country application is a bit more complicated. You need a restricted COS and there is an annual limit on number of RCOS so on.. Try your best to get it done in country.

You should keep it as the last option.

I agree with you madona. The best thing for me to do is an in-country application. I am preparing myself for the worst case scenario. As this is christmas season there might be slight delays in every process. Taking that into account what if my company get license and i had to leave the country. Do i need to make application as new employee. After i leave can i still claim the 1year that i worked with company? What is RLMT? Who need to take that test. What are the chances of passing that test.??

Please dont mind the number of questions. Hope you will try to understand

I think you can make some sort of "out of time application". I don't know anything about it so I wont make any assumptions. Search here and you can find posts by experts. As far as I know if you leave the country and your current leave expires you cannot claim anything and will not be considered as a "old" employee. You will be considered as a new employee and you must satisfy all the requirements for a new employee.

RLMT is basically your company must advertise your job role and conduct interviews and stuff. It's like they must proof home office they can't find a suitable candidate for your job position within UK. read up on it.

It's best you read the guidelines for more info..

[koolguykvs]

I think you can make some sort of "out of time application". I don't know anything about it so I wont make any assumptions. Search here and you can find posts by experts. As far as I know if you leave the country and your current leave expires you cannot claim anything and will not be considered as a "old" employee. You will be considered as a new employee and you must satisfy all the requirements for a new employee.

RLMT is basically your company must advertise your job role and conduct interviews and stuff. It's like they must proof home office they can't find a suitable candidate for your job position within UK. read up on it.

It's best you read the guidelines for more info..

HI Madona,
I did a bit of search in this forum about out of time application and it seems to be bit risky as one will have just 28 days to file and get the result of application. The best seems to be out of country application. As you said this RLMT seems to be a bit difficult as a company needs to prove why this job has to be offered to me only and why they couldnt find a suitable person in UK? I am not aware of how serious this test is and what are the chances of positive outcome??. Do you have any idea??

[geriatrix]

I am not aware of how serious this test is

A mandatory requirement, depending on the circumstances. Your queries appear to reflect that you haven't read the policy guidance. Suggest that you do so.

[madona587]

I think you can make some sort of "out of time application". I don't know anything about it so I wont make any assumptions. Search here and you can find posts by experts. As far as I know if you leave the country and your current leave expires you cannot claim anything and will not be considered as a "old" employee. You will be considered as a new employee and you must satisfy all the requirements for a new employee.

RLMT is basically your company must advertise your job role and conduct interviews and stuff. It's like they must proof home office they can't find a suitable candidate for your job position within UK. read up on it.

It's best you read the guidelines for more info..

HI Madona,
I did a bit of search in this forum about out of time application and it seems to be bit risky as one will have just 28 days to file and get the result of application. The best seems to be out of country application. As you said this RLMT seems to be a bit difficult as a company needs to prove why this job has to be offered to me only and why they couldnt find a suitable person in UK? I am not aware of how serious this test is and what are the chances of positive outcome??. Do you have any idea??

I can't predict your chances. I think it depends on your circumstances. If your job is in shortage occupation list then you don't need RLMT I think..

[koolguykvs]

I am not aware of how serious this test is

A mandatory requirement, depending on the circumstances. Your queries appear to reflect that you haven't read the policy guidance. Suggest that you do so.

I have read the guidance Sush. What i actually meant was, the company has to prove that they advertised the job and couldnt find any local candidate. How weird this test is and i was asking what are the positive outcomes of this one. My company wants to give job to me even if i leave the country and how are they going to prove they couldnt find anyone else???

[madona587]

I am not aware of how serious this test is

A mandatory requirement, depending on the circumstances. Your queries appear to reflect that you haven't read the policy guidance. Suggest that you do so.

I have read the guidance Sush. What i actually meant was, the company has to prove that they advertised the job and couldnt find any local candidate. How weird this test is and i was asking what are the positive outcomes of this one. My company wants to give job to me even if i leave the country and how are they going to prove they couldnt find anyone else???

I think what sush is saying is that Policy guidance has the correct process your company should follow when conducting a RLMT. As soon as your PSW expires and you leave the country you will lose all the "in country rights". Then if your company needs you for the X job position they must follow UKBA guidance. Your application will be treated as "New" You wont have any priority based on your previous employment for the company or anything. Simple.