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Canadians and of course UK (EU) citizens can come to EU visa free. Once there it is a matter of complying with the real dicreto. Marriage certificates and their notorisation are important to Spain.stephanitis wrote:Hi everybody,
I am a British Citizen married to a Canadian Citizen. We both live in Canada. My husband's company wants to transfer him to one of their positions in Spain and we are trying to figure out what we need to make the transition as smooth as possible. We are planning to get an immigration lawyer in the next week (hopefully), but I was hoping someone could let us know if what we have found so far is correct.
I have my UK Passport. We also have our Canadian Marriage certificate and are having it translated into Spanish (by a certified translator) and it will be notarized. From what I understand, the process for me to get my Residence Permit is fairly straight forward. What becomes confusing is getting my husband's.
From what I understand, we have to have our Marriage Certificate stamped by the Canadian Foreign Affairs in Canada, the Spanish Foreign Affairs in Canada, and the Spanish Foreign Affairs in Madrid. We then take it to the British Embassy to have it Legalized. Then, they will give us our Uniting Documents, which we take to the Oficina de Extranjeros where we will be living, and THEN my husband can apply for his residence permit.
Has anyone else done this? Is it as straight-forward as it seems to be? Are we better off having an immigration lawyer help us with this, or is it fairly simple to do on our own? Am I missing any steps?
Hello....If you send your email to my inbox i can tell you exactly what you are about to go through.It is not straight forward by any means.You can read a few of my earlier posts to get a rough idea.We are in Spain now going through a document nightmare,i am also British but i have lived in Spain for 6 years.Look forward to hearing from you soon.stephanitis wrote:Hi everybody,
I am a British Citizen married to a Canadian Citizen. We both live in Canada. My husband's company wants to transfer him to one of their positions in Spain and we are trying to figure out what we need to make the transition as smooth as possible. We are planning to get an immigration lawyer in the next week (hopefully), but I was hoping someone could let us know if what we have found so far is correct.
I have my UK Passport. We also have our Canadian Marriage certificate and are having it translated into Spanish (by a certified translator) and it will be notarized. From what I understand, the process for me to get my Residence Permit is fairly straight forward. What becomes confusing is getting my husband's.
From what I understand, we have to have our Marriage Certificate stamped by the Canadian Foreign Affairs in Canada, the Spanish Foreign Affairs in Canada, and the Spanish Foreign Affairs in Madrid. We then take it to the British Embassy to have it Legalized. Then, they will give us our Uniting Documents, which we take to the Oficina de Extranjeros where we will be living, and THEN my husband can apply for his residence permit.
Has anyone else done this? Is it as straight-forward as it seems to be? Are we better off having an immigration lawyer help us with this, or is it fairly simple to do on our own? Am I missing any steps?
Hello....Im afraid the information you are giving out is incorrect.I am currently going through this right now and you have missed many important points.The most important point is that no documents ie marriage cert must be older than 3 months old.This is Spain and they do things there way and you must understand that.Do not quote them any EU laws or directives as they will simply laugh at you.You will for sure need a lawyer who speaks fluent Spanish.Other documents you will be asked for are your Padron,your NIE number,your Residencia cert,your Medical card,they do not tell you this on any website but they will ask for these.Most of the information provided on the websites is inaccurate.I readEUsmileWEallsmile wrote:From the real decreto
One needs a) valid passport b) marriage certificate legalised or apostilised c) reg cert of fam member d) photos
The crux will be making sure that the marriage certificate is legalised or apostilised. There are two cases, one where the state in which the marriage took place is party to the Hauge convention, the other where it is not.
What Residence Card?...Mine or my wifes?Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Levi13,
What role is your layer playing in all of this? Have you not yet applied for the Residence Card, and if so why not?
Yes they are very rude,unhelpful and they make things very hard for you.The whole process has to be perfect and you cannot make any errors.It takes 4-6 months for a non eu citizen to receive permanent residence in Spain.Pretty much all of the office staff will only speak spanish to you.Your lawyer will guide you through the exact process with out making any errors.Mine cost a total of 200 euros which was very good and we had no problems in going through the process.My wifes visa will arrive in the next months.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:But what specifically made you decide to use a lawyer?
The Spanish embassy in London has a super bad reputation, especially dealing with non-EU spouses who come from Latin America. Rude, slow, stupid. Though often they can be shaken into a little sense with a few well crafted threats to involve the EU.
I briefly considered moving to Spain with spouse. I read the requirements and believe I understand them. Essentially, the Spanish require a marriage certificate to vetted. There is a procedure for this. If one has married in a Hague convention country, there is a simplified procedure. If not, there is the full legalisation procedure. In the latter one needs to have the official document translated, then that plus the original legalised in the country that issued the document and then by the Spanish consulate in that country. We went through that process for another country (not Spain). It was a pain, but once done it was recognised.levi13 wrote:Hello....Im afraid the information you are giving out is incorrect.I am currently going through this right now and you have missed many important points.The most important point is that no documents ie marriage cert must be older than 3 months old.This is Spain and they do things there way and you must understand that.Do not quote them any EU laws or directives as they will simply laugh at you.You will for sure need a lawyer who speaks fluent Spanish.Other documents you will be asked for are your Padron,your NIE number,your Residencia cert,your Medical card,they do not tell you this on any website but they will ask for these.Most of the information provided on the websites is inaccurate.I readEUsmileWEallsmile wrote:From the real decreto
One needs a) valid passport b) marriage certificate legalised or apostilised c) reg cert of fam member d) photos
The crux will be making sure that the marriage certificate is legalised or apostilised. There are two cases, one where the state in which the marriage took place is party to the Hauge convention, the other where it is not.
hundreds of websites but the harsh reality is that they do things very differently here.The Spanish Embassies and Ministry of Foreign Affairs here in Spain can be very rude,you will for sure need a Lawyer to help you with this.Your marriage cert will need to be no older than 3 months old,with an apostille and translated into Spanish then certified.It also depends greatly on the area you are moving to.We live near Torrevieja,Alicante region.If you were moving closer to Madrid or Barcelona then you would have more problems there than in smaller cities.I may have come across a little harsh here but i am only trying to help you.It is the way they do things over here..there way or not at all im afraid.If you are moving anywhere close to where i live i can give you the name of the lawyer that is helping us. ....Good Luck !!!
I'm sorry, but what language would you prefer them speak to you in?levi13 wrote:Yes they are very rude,unhelpful and they make things very hard for you.The whole process has to be perfect and you cannot make any errors.It takes 4-6 months for a non eu citizen to receive permanent residence in Spain.Pretty much all of the office staff will only speak spanish to you.Your lawyer will guide you through the exact process with out making any errors.Mine cost a total of 200 euros which was very good and we had no problems in going through the process.My wifes visa will arrive in the next months.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:But what specifically made you decide to use a lawyer?
The Spanish embassy in London has a super bad reputation, especially dealing with non-EU spouses who come from Latin America. Rude, slow, stupid. Though often they can be shaken into a little sense with a few well crafted threats to involve the EU.
This is a whole other discussion. Lets save it for another thread.EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:I'm sorry, but what language would you prefer them speak to you in?
Okay, it looks like we have everything in order then. We just got a new marriage certificate and have had it translated and notarized. We're still in Canada, so next week we are going to send it to the Canadian Foreign Affairs office and the Spanish Embassy in Ottawa to have them stamped.levi13 wrote:Hello....Im afraid the information you are giving out is incorrect.I am currently going through this right now and you have missed many important points.The most important point is that no documents ie marriage cert must be older than 3 months old.This is Spain and they do things there way and you must understand that.Do not quote them any EU laws or directives as they will simply laugh at you.You will for sure need a lawyer who speaks fluent Spanish.Other documents you will be asked for are your Padron,your NIE number,your Residencia cert,your Medical card,they do not tell you this on any website but they will ask for these.Most of the information provided on the websites is inaccurate.I readEUsmileWEallsmile wrote:From the real decreto
One needs a) valid passport b) marriage certificate legalised or apostilised c) reg cert of fam member d) photos
The crux will be making sure that the marriage certificate is legalised or apostilised. There are two cases, one where the state in which the marriage took place is party to the Hauge convention, the other where it is not.
hundreds of websites but the harsh reality is that they do things very differently here.The Spanish Embassies and Ministry of Foreign Affairs here in Spain can be very rude,you will for sure need a Lawyer to help you with this.Your marriage cert will need to be no older than 3 months old,with an apostille and translated into Spanish then certified.It also depends greatly on the area you are moving to.We live near Torrevieja,Alicante region.If you were moving closer to Madrid or Barcelona then you would have more problems there than in smaller cities.I may have come across a little harsh here but i am only trying to help you.It is the way they do things over here..there way or not at all im afraid.If you are moving anywhere close to where i live i can give you the name of the lawyer that is helping us. ....Good Luck !!!
Awesome, thank you. We are in the process of having our marriage certificate and its translated copy legalized, so it looks like we are well on our way to getting this done properly. I had hoped we were doing it right, but I'm always paranoid that we are going to miss a step and have to start over from the beginning!EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:From the real decreto
One needs a) valid passport b) marriage certificate legalised or apostilised c) reg cert of fam member d) photos
The crux will be making sure that the marriage certificate is legalised or apostilised. There are two cases, one where the state in which the marriage took place is party to the Hauge convention, the other where it is not.
I'd love to know how you get on. Please let us know. Be patient and hope it all works out.stephanitis wrote:Awesome, thank you. We are in the process of having our marriage certificate and its translated copy legalized, so it looks like we are well on our way to getting this done properly. I had hoped we were doing it right, but I'm always paranoid that we are going to miss a step and have to start over from the beginning!EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:From the real decreto
One needs a) valid passport b) marriage certificate legalised or apostilised c) reg cert of fam member d) photos
The crux will be making sure that the marriage certificate is legalised or apostilised. There are two cases, one where the state in which the marriage took place is party to the Hauge convention, the other where it is not.