ROR holder wants to get new non-EEA spouse in UK for visit

ehsan_iqbal · Post by **ehsan_iqbal** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:07 am

Hi,

I came on this page from EEA route page to ask an important question for us (me and my wife). I'm retained the right of residence(RoR) holder, and I just got married again, back in my home country (Asia). And I wants to get my wife in UK for couple of months. but I don't know that what the possibilities are available to bring her in UK.

So please tell me that is it possible to get her here? if yes, then what the possibilities are available?

If she apply as a general visitor? then what do you say about it? And can/does she have to mention in her visa application that she wants to meet me that's why she is applying for visit visa.

I mean,

1) is it good to mention?
2) or it is bad to mention?

There are questions on visit visa application form about marital status, husband's name and date-of-birth. If she will give these all details. Then the embassy will get know that husband is living in UK. Any how, she can not hide it, as far as i understand. Then how she can try to show some any other reason to visit UK, than to meet me (husband).

what would you say about this situation guys? is there any other possibility to get her here for some short period of time?

note : in all cases of application, she has to give her marital status detail, my name and date of birth. she can not hide it, as far as i understand. so please before giving me your advice, keep this thing in mind.

thanks and awaiting for your helpful words.

peppekalle · Post by **peppekalle** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:30 am

ehsan_iqbal wrote:Hi,

I came on this page from EEA route page to ask an important question for us (me and my wife). I'm retained the right of residence(RoR) holder, and I just got married again, back in my home country (Asia). And I wants to get my wife in UK for couple of months. but I don't know that what the possibilities are available to bring her in UK.

So please tell me that is it possible to get her here? if yes, then what the possibilities are available?

If she apply as a general visitor? then what do you say about it? And can/does she have to mention in her visa application that she wants to meet me that's why she is applying for visit visa.

I mean,

1) is it good to mention?
2) or it is bad to mention?

There are questions on visit visa application form about marital status, husband's name and date-of-birth. If she will give these all details. Then the embassy will get know that husband is living in UK. Any how, she can not hide it, as far as i understand. Then how she can try to show some any other reason to visit UK, than to meet me (husband).

what would you say about this situation guys? is there any other possibility to get her here for some short period of time?

note : in all cases of application, she has to give her marital status detail, my name and date of birth. she can not hide it, as far as i understand. so please before giving me your advice, keep this thing in mind.

thanks and awaiting for your helpful words.

I suggest she answers the questions honestly.UKBA will not take it kindly that they have not been provided with the whole picture.

ehsan_iqbal · Post by **ehsan_iqbal** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:45 pm

in which visa category is better to apply? any other suggestions or advices? I will be thankful if to you guys, if you will write me some helpful words. I don't have any idea, that from where and how I should start it, in such situation.

peppekalle · Post by **peppekalle** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:51 pm

ehsan_iqbal wrote:in which visa category is better to apply? any other suggestions or advices? I will be thankful if to you guys, if you will write me some helpful words. I don't have any idea, that from where and how I should start it, in such situation.

She can come in as a visitor or if your permit allows she can apply for spousal visa if you meet the new requirements.

ehsan_iqbal · Post by **ehsan_iqbal** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:18 pm

i dont have PR, i have ROR (retained the right of residence) only. I can not sponsor her as a spouse yet (as far, as i know).

peppekalle · Post by **peppekalle** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:45 pm

I am not familiar with the rules of right of residence .I am sure someone else will help.Your wife can still come and visit you.

ehsan_iqbal · Post by **ehsan_iqbal** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:50 pm

then i'm looking for someone, who can help me out. And give me good advice in this forum.

peppekalle · Post by **peppekalle** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:18 pm

ehsan_iqbal wrote:then i'm looking for someone, who can help me out. And give me good advice in this forum.

Thanks a lot for your kind words
....so far i have advised you BADLY by asking you to tell the truth in your wife's visitor application even thou it might be inconvenient to tell the truth i even went as far as suggesting a spousal visa application if you meet the rules.

Please forgive my ignorance for not understanding ROR i am neither a lawyer nor a barrister.Let us not forget the original question.

I also suggested you wait for someone to advice you whether you could sponsor your wife with your ROR. You originally wanted your wife to come in as a visitor.

Post by **Greenie** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:15 pm

Unless she qualifies in her own right in one of the tier categories your only options are for her to come as a general visitor or for you visit/go to live with her your home country.

I think you are already aware that a general visit visa has a high chance of refusal as she may be considered not to have an incentive to return. She obviously must tell the truth about coming to visit you as lying will only cause problems for future applications.

ehsan_iqbal · Post by **ehsan_iqbal** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:10 pm

thanks guys for try to help me out.

. Actually I'm looking for someone, who can completely understand my situation technically. Then maybe, he/she can give me some specific advice. I request to all to visitors of my question, that if you have some clue then please write me.

looking forward.

Post by **Greenie** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:21 pm

I have answered your question and understand your circumstances. I am not sure what else you can expect anyone to say?

Post by **Obie** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:22 am

I have recently seen an interesting case in which the judge ruled that it would breach the community law right and Article 8 right, which has to be read in accordance with community law, to require a person with a retained right of Residence to relocate to Belarus with his wife,when the result of that is, the man will loose his right of residence unwillingly, due to lengthly absence. In those circumstance he allowed the appeal under Article 8.

The above should not be seen as disrespectful or disputing the contributions and comments above. They correctly reflect the current UKBA policy, which may not be right.

It will be wrong to stop a woman from the right of family reunification with a minor child for as long as 4 years,until such person is able to secure PR. I am mindful though that this is the longest possible time someone may have to wait.

ehsan_iqbal · Post by **ehsan_iqbal** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:29 am

dear Obie, thanks for your words. But can you write me your mean in straightaway and easy wording, as i did not understand you clearly that what do you mean exactly, by your words.

what exactly you think about my question/situation, or what would you advice me.

I'm just awaiting for your reply. Thanks

Post by **Greenie** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:26 am

Could you post a link to the case obie.

ehsan_iqbal · Post by **ehsan_iqbal** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:24 pm

Dear obie , can you please explain your words.
Regards

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