My visa expires soon, If i get married to my bf can i stay?

scootnfast · Post by **scootnfast** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:35 am

Hey,

My girlfriend has been in this ocuntry for 2 years now and is a dependant on her mums visa as she is only 17. If we get married can she stay in this country permantly as we do not want to seperate? Please help.

Many Thanks

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:05 am

scootnfast wrote:Hey,

My girlfriend has been in this ocuntry for 2 years now and is a dependant on her mums visa as she is only 17. If we get married can she stay in this country permantly as we do not want to seperate? Please help.

Many Thanks

Theoretically yes but you would need to pass certain tests as her sponsor, basically:

1. Can you afford to without needing benefits etc

2. Have you got a place to live?

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:59 am

Theoretically no, because she is under 18, and she doesn't qualify for a spouse visa. So she will still be dependent on her mother's visa.

If I were her mother I'd tow her right out of the country back home. I do not think her parents would be too thrilled that their 17yo is pregnant, running away (or planning to) to get married, and probably won't end up with nothing more than GCSEs.

You haven't mentioned a peep about yourself - are you also 17? Or are you much older? Sorry, but I'd have to side with the mum; maybe the pregnancy wasn't planned, but she doesn't have much chance of applying for other visas because of her age, so it is still down to her mother what happens to her.

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:44 am

sakura wrote:If I were her mother I'd tow her right out of the country back home. I do not think her parents would be too thrilled that their 17yo is pregnant, running away (or planning to) to get married, and probably won't end up with nothing more than GCSEs

I don't think any parent would be too thrilled about such a scenario. But if the solution is to send the daughter back to the home country, what do we do if our daughters get into such a mess? (No fair! I wish I had a back up country for us to fall upon as well.)

Also the daughter could get into a mess just as lovely or an even better one back in the home country.

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:02 am

Docterror wrote:
sakura wrote:If I were her mother I'd tow her right out of the country back home. I do not think her parents would be too thrilled that their 17yo is pregnant, running away (or planning to) to get married, and probably won't end up with nothing more than GCSEs
I don't think any parent would be too thrilled about such a scenario. But if the solution is to send the daughter back to the home country, what do we do if our daughters get into such a mess? (No fair! I wish I had a back up country for us to fall upon as well.)

Also the daughter could get into a mess just as lovely or an even better one back in the home country.

The point I'm making is that the girl is still dependent on her mother, and her mother chooses to send her back, no one can argue against that. The OP also plans to elope w/o mother's consent to Scotland, where a 17yo can get married without parental consent...so to me it seems like going behind the mother's back for no apparent reason. The OP hasn't posted anything about himself - he could be 16 or 60; why is the mother adamant not to allow them to be together? Probably because she knew something like this pregnancy would happen.

Dawie · Post by **Dawie** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:14 am

No one actually knows what country her home country it is. It could be Saudi Arabia for all we know. Or some other equally intolerant country.

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:55 am

sakura wrote:her mother chooses to send her back, no one can argue against that.

why is the mother adamant not to allow them to be together? Probably because she knew something like this pregnancy would happen.

Whatever be the reason, if an immigrant mother chooses to send her dependant daughter back to the home country when she gets into a mess, there is nothing we can do about it. But that does not make it the right solution for the problem. Its almost like a immigrant chosing to send back his/her dependant spouse back to the home country upon discovering that the spouse had been unfaithful. Perfectly possible practically speaking but just not the real solution to the situation as it just temporarily hides the problem rather than solving it. Such matters should be dealth with internally..not immigrationally.

If I were her mother I'd tow her right out of the country back home.

There is a stark difference between not being able to argue with a mother who decides to use immigration to solve problems with her daughter and you also chosing to treat the symptoms rather than cure the disease.

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:09 pm

True, she could well be from Saudi Arabia....or Mexico, USA, Iran, no one knows, and no one will know without more detail from the OP.

Docterror, what is the disease to be cured? I don't get what you mean. This isn't a husband/wife thing. Which is why I asked whether or not the family were preparing to stay long-term. If they choose to stay only until their visa expires, then sending the child back home wouldn't make a difference to her nationality anyway (i.e. if the parents stayed here permanently but left the child back home), and that was what I was referring to (seems the OP is saying they might not be renewing their visa) when mentioning that the parents might well just return her home early.

Anyway we will see what happens.

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:13 pm

sakura wrote:Docterror, what is the disease to be cured? I don't get what you mean

...It was a metaphor.

the parents might well just return her home early.

The bottom line of my view is that the solution that a dependant could be send/returned early back home to solve a domestic problem and thus using the immigration to solve the domestic problem is to be condoned... it's that simple!

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:51 pm

Docterror wrote:
sakura wrote:Docterror, what is the disease to be cured? I don't get what you mean
...It was a metaphor.

the parents might well just return her home early.
The bottom line of my view is that the solution that a dependant could be send/returned early back home to solve a domestic problem and thus using the immigration to solve the domestic problem is to be condoned... it's that simple!

...I know you were using a metaphor, but I do not know what you were relating it to.

...Don't you mean condemned...i.e. that it is not the best move to make?

jes2jes · Post by **jes2jes** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:04 pm

I will urge you all to take a minute to check the reason why the OP posted this question.

For all we know, he wants a way to stay in the country (Visa expirying soon) and the only way he can go about it is to marry his girlfriend currently (who is a minor in the eyes of the law) to regularise his stay. I doubt it will work since marrying someone on a dependant visa against a settlement visa would give him any grounds to stay in the UK anyway.

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:28 pm

Yes jes2jes, I didn't want it to go as off-topic as it did. My apologies to the OP.

Sakura, I accidentally swallowed a 'not' with my lunch. Now I know where it came from. I meant..

...the solution that a dependant could be send/returned early back home to solve a domestic problem and thus using the immigration to solve the domestic problem is not to be condoned...

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:42 pm

jes2jes wrote:I will urge you all to take a minute to check the reason why the OP posted this question.

For all we know, he wants a way to stay in the country (Visa expirying soon) and the only way he can go about it is to marry his girlfriend currently (who is a minor in the eyes of the law) to regularise his stay. I doubt it will work since marrying someone on a dependant visa against a settlement visa would give him any grounds to stay in the UK anyway.

Correct. The OP has other threads (actually, he seems to be writing on behalf of his gf...), and I had asked, I don't know how many times, what his situation is. Plus I also mentioned her inabilty for spouse visa due to age, but he hasn't replied yet!

What's up scootnfast?

scootnfast · Post by **scootnfast** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:28 pm

Hello sorry about late reply, I have no internet connection during the day as I'm at work. Im 19 and I'm a UK resident and have been all my life. My gf is from turkey, alirbijahn (Sorry about the spelling) but is only 17 and depends on her mums visa as a minor. She is pregnant and we would like to stay together, thats why i thought marriage is the only way?

Kind Regards

jes2jes · Post by **jes2jes** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:36 am

Are you a British Citizen? A UK resident is different from a BC.

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