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HSMP rejected in country- Help me for review

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HSMP rejected in country- Help me for review

Post by danBuzz555 » Sat May 05, 2007 10:02 am

Hello everybody,
My HSMP application was rejected and The reason given by my caseworker for rejection:

You have claimed an income of 38000 earned in the UK.
You have supplied evidence to demondtrate the income claimed from XXX and from YYY.
The wage slips supplied by ZZZ Limited were not on employer letter headed paper and they were not stamped or signed by your employer. Therefore these wage slips did not meet the HSMP criteria for original documents and could not be assessed.(I have worked 3 companies in last 12 months)
You have not applied for exceptional consideration of alternative evidence in place of wage slips from ZZZ Limited and you have not supplied any evidence to demonstrate exceptional reasons why alternative evidence should be assessed on an exceptional basis.
( I have provied required evidences as well as the exceptional evidences, ie wage slips, P60, Letter from employer stating my income as claimed and Bank statements)
Therefor the income demonstrated was only sufficient to meet the 29000+ income band.
30 points awarded.( I claimed 40 points)
Total Points awarded 65.

This is the second time I have applied and the first time also in the initial assessment they have refused the wage slips from ZZZ Limited but in the review it was mentioned like ,
"We have noted that wage slips from ZZZ Limited were original documents and as such have been considered acceptable towards the amount of earnings you have claimed"

Since the wage slips were accepted last time review I didn't request for the exceptional consideartion but again they refused to accept the wage slips.

Please give me feedback guys on this on how to proceed.

Thanks

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Post by herts » Sat May 05, 2007 10:16 am

Take advise of some professional immigration consultant.
I think he would be able to guide you about ur application process.

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Post by makon » Sat May 05, 2007 12:35 pm

1) which figure did they use to arrive at the fact that you qualify under the 29000+ band?

2) You may not really need a professional consultant, u need to present ur case very well

3) why didn't u get your employer to stamp and sign the payslips

4) what was the taxable income on your P60 (If you don't want to disclose this then u don't have to)

if u provide me with more details i maybe give u some suggestions

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Post by danBuzz555 » Sat May 05, 2007 3:06 pm

1) As I mention, I worked 3 companies in the last 12 months. They have accepted two companies wage slips, total from these two companies more than 29000. They have rejected one company's wage slip.
3) Employer didn't have the stamp to stamp and sign. Last time in the review they have accepted the same wage slips so I didn't try to stamp it this time.
4) more than 35000

I have provided required evidences as well as the exceptional evidences, ie wage slips, P60, Letter from employer stating my income as claimed and Bank statements. But case worker refuse to assess these evidences and given the reason "you have not supplied any evidence to demonstrate exceptional reasons why alternative evidence should be assessed on an exceptional basis"

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Post by makon » Sat May 05, 2007 4:11 pm

what period does the payslips cover? I mean, is it Jan - Dec, or March - Feb, etc.

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Post by danBuzz555 » Sat May 05, 2007 4:26 pm

April to March and the P60 covers the whole period claimed.

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Post by makon » Sat May 05, 2007 4:28 pm

what period does the PAYSLIPS cover?

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Post by danBuzz555 » Sat May 05, 2007 4:35 pm

The claimed period pay slips cover April 06 to March 07 and
the rejected pay slips cover April 06 to June 06 (2 1/2 months)

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Post by makon » Sat May 05, 2007 4:39 pm

Then try a review and in the review place more emphasis on the figure on the P60 which is enough to give you 40 points. And tell them that if they doubt that figure the can contact the inland revenue. if the review fails, get the payslips stamped and signed, and if stamping is not possible then get it printed on a letterheaded paper.

gd luck and keep us posted

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Post by danBuzz555 » Sat May 05, 2007 4:59 pm

Can get the payslips stamped and signed and send it with the review, will they accept it.

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Post by makon » Sat May 05, 2007 5:15 pm

No, beacuse that will be considered as new evidence and during review new evidences are not accepted. During review, u are only expected to submit a letter explaining why you think the refusal decision was wrong, or an error.

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Post by SYH » Sat May 05, 2007 5:25 pm

So i guess the argument is that you accepted the documents the first time and you had no reason to believe they wouldn't be up to muster the second time.
once you get on someone's radar, it seems it always goes wrong.

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Post by danBuzz555 » Sun May 06, 2007 8:56 am

Makon,
Can you please explain what do you mean by "get it printed on a letterheaded paper". My understanding is that print each month pay slip in A4 size letter head paper and stamp and sign on it. Is that correct?

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Post by makon » Sun May 06, 2007 12:22 pm

If your company has a stamp, then printing each payslip on an A4 paper and then stamping it woud be the best option, but if the company doesn't have a stamp then printing it on a letter headed paper would suffice, i think.

If you take the letter headed paper option, then you can go one step further by getting a covering letter from your company, and let me say sth like this:

"I write to confirm that the payslips attached to this letter are the payslips issued to <your name> by <name of company>.

Should you need further information please do not hesitate to contact me directly at the above address <this will be the address on the letter headed paper>, or on <phone number>"

Your Sincerely,

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Post by danBuzz555 » Sun May 06, 2007 5:57 pm

I checked with the employer and they said they can't print the pay slips on A4/letterhead paper since the software they use to run the pay slips will not accept A4.
What they suggest is to photo copy the pay slip on letterhead paper and sign and stamp on it and give a covering letter confirming the pay slips.
Is thet Okay?

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Post by makon » Sun May 06, 2007 8:13 pm

on what sort of paper are they printing the payslips then? If they have a stamp they don't really need to photocopy it on a letterheaded paper then, all that they have to do is stamp and sign it and then add the cover letter. The letter headed paper only comes into the equation if the don't have a stamp

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Post by danBuzz555 » Sun May 06, 2007 8:28 pm

It is 80mm Height and 300mm width paper and the issue is not enogh room for the stamp . Can stamp it on top of the printed letters but I am not sure this will be an isuue.

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