Applying for nationality without supplying a passport

[ck4137]

My friend is a Chinese national .He got ILR on Mar 2004 through one-off exercise.Since then he had tried to apply for a Chinese passport in Chinese Embassy in London,but was refused.Now he wants to take a test for LIFE IN THE UK for British citizenship, but the people in test centre told him he needs a photo ID .Does anybody knows how he can take a test without a photo ID and if he can apply for British nationality without a Chinese passport after Mar 2009 if possible to pass the test?PLEASE HELP ME!

[SYH]

I dont quite understand what you are saying. What do you mean by one off exercise? Where is your passport?

[olisun]

different stories in different posts

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[SYH]

not my first choice
if he wants help
he should explain it in the post his situation so it makes sense
I shouldn't have to go research the board to figure out his situation

[John]

CK4137, can you please explain why you have previously posted :-

I am from Thailand,and i got two years spouse visa at this moment[my husband is British]

-: and now you tell us you are from China? And you have an Irish-born child?

Please can no one else post here until CK4137 has come up with an adequate explanation. And if such an explanation is not forthcoming soon I shall conclude that we have a troll at work and lock all 4 topics, and bar their membership.

Over to you CK4137 ... please explain.

[ck4137]

Sorry for my using my friend' membership to ask my question and I will register a membership myself.

[sakura]

My friend is a Chinese national .He got ILR on Mar 2004 through one-off exercise.Since then he had tried to apply for a Chinese passport in Chinese Embassy in London,but was refused.Now he wants to take a test for LIFE IN THE UK for British citizenship, but the people in test centre told him he needs a photo ID .Does anybody knows how he can take a test without a photo ID and if he can apply for British nationality without a Chinese passport after Mar 2009 if possible to pass the test?PLEASE HELP ME!

Why bypass the requirements: if you need a photo ID, don't go looking for one that doesn't....there aren't any centres that don't anyway.

He still has 2 years or so to go, so he can sort out his passport things whilst he waits. No point worrying about 2009 when 2007 isn't even done with! Maybe he should ask why his passport application was refused at the Embassy? Was it something dodgy...because he came as an asylum seeker and they were just being rude, or was it something more technical? What form of ID has he been using all this time? i.e. to work, study, or what has he been doing?

[pantaiema]

Dear ck4137
What do you mean by one-off exercise.


Why s/he does not have a chinese passport ?. Is not that the ILR should be in that passport ?

Pantaiema

My friend is a Chinese national .He got ILR on Mar 2004 through one-off exercise.Since then he had tried to apply for a Chinese passport in Chinese Embassy in London,but was refused.Now he wants to take a test for LIFE IN THE UK for British citizenship, but the people in test centre told him he needs a photo ID .Does anybody knows how he can take a test without a photo ID and if he can apply for British nationality without a Chinese passport after Mar 2009 if possible to pass the test?PLEASE HELP ME!

[Marco 72]

Dear ck4137
What do you mean by one-off exercise.

See http://www.asylumsupport.org.uk/docs/amnesty.pdf

Why s/he does not have a chinese passport ?. Is not that the ILR should be in that passport ?

Many refugees don't have a passport, and can't get one.

[sakura]

Dear ck4137
What do you mean by one-off exercise.

See http://www.asylumsupport.org.uk/docs/amnesty.pdf

Why s/he does not have a chinese passport ?. Is not that the ILR should be in that passport ?

Many refugees don't have a passport, and can't get one.

So it would seem to fit my query as to why the Chinese embassy refused him a new passport? Just being darned out of order!

So this family exercise...you needed to have a dependent under 18 when applied? So, ck4137, does the dependent have a passport or was your friend applying for their passport too (depending on their age)?

[Jeff Albright]

If the person cannot get a passport, he should apply for the Home Office travel document/certificate of identity. How to do this can be found at http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/applying/traveldocs/

[Dawie]

Don't forget that what we take for granted, i.e. fast and effecient service from our countries' embassies when overseas (and a government that works FOR its citizens) does not apply to a country like China.

Chinese citizens are not allowed to leave China without permission from the government and all travel is heavily regulated and controlled. Anyone who leaves China without permission can expect to receive absolutely no help from the Chinese government when overseas whatsoever. Not even the provision of a passport to return to China. Nice country, huh?

[sakura]

Don't forget that what we take for granted, i.e. fast and effecient service from our countries' embassies when overseas (and a government that works FOR its citizens) does not apply to a country like China.

Chinese citizens are not allowed to leave China without permission from the government and all travel is heavily regulated and controlled. Anyone who leaves China without permission can expect to receive absolutely no help from the Chinese government when overseas whatsoever. Not even the provision of a passport to return to China. Nice country, huh?

Hm, I remember reading something a few months back about the US trying to send back like a couple thousand illegal Chinese immigrants who had been detained for months and months but with no help from the Chinese authorities who would not give them a passport (or other travel doc.). I find it funny, though...I'm sure they behave that way to save face ("our economy is growing like no where else and we are all happy"...except those thousands who left illegally or some other way...a bit shameful for them, isn't it). Plus, they probably wouldn't mind another wave of diasporas...fewer people in China is what they want, isn't it? Current diaspora population is 30+million the world over.
It wasn't just China, mind, I also read that (in the US) Nigeria and some other 'developing countries' didn't want their nationals back....probably only want their remittances!

[Dawie]

There is the same problem with refugees in South Africa. Many of the refugees countries embassies are unwilling or unable to provide them with travel documents to return to their countries. In same cases (like Zimbabwe) the countries are too poor to even produce passports. This doesn't stop the South African government from illegally deporting them though. They just dump Zimbabwean and Mozambiquean refugees without travel documents at the border and hope for the best.