Appeal Allowed Visa Stamped Timings - Pakistan

[HaroonAli]

Hello Guys,

Just one question which has been back of my head for some days and I really wanted to ask this if anyone can advise me.

May I ask will the judge look at the paperwork again when making the decision on the appeal after the hearing has been finished or will she/he have already made a decision as I was speaking to some people and they stated judge has already got all the notes for the hearing to make a decision and normally do not go back to look at the appeal paperwork as they have so many other cases and things to do in life.

Any comments as will they make a decision on the questions and details given on hearing as obviously they have the paperwork there.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

[batleykhan]

Hello there,

Em that is weird I was only asked one question by my judge and few things from the Home Office as I had thought we would need to use the Article 8 Human Rights as well. Maybe the judge was not nice or something but however did the Home Office not ask you any questions.

Also may I ask how long you were in for.

Do not worry as she failed the English Test but obviously she had to do it again so it does not make sense if she can not take that into account as it has to be taken into account.

Also you have a daughter and they can not stop the right to family life. Maybe you had one of them judges, anyway did the judge not mention about the appeal being allowed or anything.

Hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Thanks

Ok guys, so my hearing was earlier today.

I really can't tell how it went. It started off really bad. As soon as I confirmed my name, address etc the Judge started saying the applicant did the English test after decision so I can't take that in to account.

The judge actually asked my solicitor to speak more about article 8 (seemed like she wanted him to convince her) and as my solicitor argued the article 8 point and mentioned my daughter it did seem to get better but I really don't know what to think. Judge smiled at me as she dismissed us but I'm probably just reading into it too much.

Now just praying and waiting for the determination letter...

It lasted around 15 minutes. The home office rep did ask me one question.

The Judge cannot allow the appeal on immigration rules as my wife did the test after being rejected, so it's new evidence. My only hope is article 8. She just said I will make a decision this afternoon and you will receive a letter in 2 weeks.

I know someone who was granted appeal on the basis of her Human Rights even though she was refused on Immigration rules ( she was not earning $18600)yours might well go the same way,but it all depends on the judge.In her case he was very good and more or a less took her side instead of the Home office

[abidabzhussain]

Please explain appeal whole process.

From day of rejection till hearing date all steps till collection of passport with visa stamp ( all steps time lines ie refusion,review,pending appeal,hearing date,judge decision,passport submission letter,visa stamp and collection after appeal successful )

In this case visa rejected on 25 march

First notice of appeal is 8 october 2013 on which a date will be given for hearing ( ANY IDEA WHAT DATE IT WILL BE )

[Immi121]

Please explain appeal whole process.

First notice of appeal is 8 october 2013 on which a date will be given for hearing ( ANY IDEA WHAT DATE IT WILL BE )

Regarding ANY IDEA WHAT DATE IT WILL BE, for that you'll need a crystal ball. They seem to be extending the hearing dates longer and longer (5 or 6 months). The person for whom you are posting will, unfortunately, have to brace themselves for a long wait.

[abidabzhussain]

Thanks immi ,

I guess so !!! shes my cousin and i wish she does get her visa soon.

[zully]

Please explain appeal whole process.

From day of rejection till hearing date all steps till collection of passport with visa stamp ( all steps time lines ie refusion,review,pending appeal,hearing date,judge decision,passport submission letter,visa stamp and collection after appeal successful )

In this case visa rejected on 25 march

First notice of appeal is 8 october 2013 on which a date will be given for hearing ( ANY IDEA WHAT DATE IT WILL BE )

Hi, i take it you sent your appeal off, then they give you about 19 weeks for the BHC to re review your case to see if they will over turn. so by the 8th october if the bhc have not sent you a decision then the court will give you a hearing date, and dont quote me but i think they may be about another 3 to 4 months for court hearing date.if its a quiet period then usallay about 8 weeks after deadline date you will attend court.IF you win then about 2 weeks later you will get decision that case is over turned. then it goes back to islamabad and then a call letter so within 4 weeks your partner will get a call or letter saying bring in passport and avalid tb test. then within a week you get visa stamped on the passport and ready for collection

[akhan47]

My hearing was last Monday, we received determination letter on Friday saying the appeal has been rejected. We had no chance on immigration rules however, I felt like my wife should have been given the visa under article 8.

The Judge seems to have overlooked a lot of the comments I made in my statement. I will be appealing to the upper tribunal.

[HaroonAli]

OMG!

I am so shocked at this decision and that was very quick to get a determination letter as you got it within 2-3 days as I am still awaiting on mines.

I am not sure as it should be given as I had gave a lot of evidence after my application and even in appeal I had gave lots of extra information. Really feeling anxious.

May I ask what was written on the determination letter. Did you wife not do her English test in time for appeal as all documents sent in appeal should be considered when making a decision.

Again SO SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS AS THAT WAS A VERY QUICK DECISION -- WHAT DID YOU LAWYER DO AT COURT AS HE SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT OR DEFENDED IT AS MY LAWYER WAS NOT ASKED ANYTHING TO DEFEND.

Again so so sorry to hear this brother now I am feeling stressed as I have not got or heard anything spoke to AIT last week they say the decision is reserved and pending details from the judge.

Hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Thanks

My hearing was last Monday, we received determination letter on Friday saying the appeal has been rejected. We had no chance on immigration rules however, I felt like my wife should have been given the visa under article 8.

The Judge seems to have overlooked a lot of the comments I made in my statement. I will be appealing to the upper tribunal.

[akhan47]

OMG!

I am so shocked at this decision and that was very quick to get a determination letter as you got it within 2-3 days as I am still awaiting on mines.

I am not sure as it should be given as I had gave a lot of evidence after my application and even in appeal I had gave lots of extra information. Really feeling anxious.

May I ask what was written on the determination letter. Did you wife not do her English test in time for appeal as all documents sent in appeal should be considered when making a decision.

Again SO SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS AS THAT WAS A VERY QUICK DECISION -- WHAT DID YOU LAWYER DO AT COURT AS HE SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT OR DEFENDED IT AS MY LAWYER WAS NOT ASKED ANYTHING TO DEFEND.

Again so so sorry to hear this brother now I am feeling stressed as I have not got or heard anything spoke to AIT last week they say the decision is reserved and pending details from the judge.

Hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Thanks

My hearing was last Monday, we received determination letter on Friday saying the appeal has been rejected. We had no chance on immigration rules however, I felt like my wife should have been given the visa under article 8.

The Judge seems to have overlooked a lot of the comments I made in my statement. I will be appealing to the upper tribunal.

My wife did do the test but Judge said anything that is done after the date of decision cannot be taken into consideration. The determination letter is around 7 pages long. She just goes through the whole case and how she came to her decision.

I don't think you should worry too much, your case was more straightforward. I knew I had no chance on the immigration rules but we argued about article 8 to no avail. The Judge says Article 8 can't be used in my case and even suggested I could go to live in Pakistan. She clearly overlooked the fact that I stated I have job commitments, me and my daughter are both British citizens.

I'm applying to appeal to the upper tribunal.

[HaroonAli]

OK but still if you have a daughter they need to give the visa as that covers Right to Family Life and also Human rights as well.

Really confused with your decision as I am sure you should have got the appeal allowed as really shocked to hear all this and again my condolences with yourself and your family.

I had put in so much documents in time of appeal but they were not looked at and also more documents when we went to the hearing but judge never questioned anything as maybe when my witnesses went then obviously HO or judge can not state they are lying as both were employer & landlady.

Anyway I am awaiting decision and I hope to get good news soon. Do keep me updated as I am sure Upper Tribunal will allow appeal as this is shocking and a disgrace to HO and everyone else.

Have a good day.

Thanks

OMG!

I am so shocked at this decision and that was very quick to get a determination letter as you got it within 2-3 days as I am still awaiting on mines.

I am not sure as it should be given as I had gave a lot of evidence after my application and even in appeal I had gave lots of extra information. Really feeling anxious.

May I ask what was written on the determination letter. Did you wife not do her English test in time for appeal as all documents sent in appeal should be considered when making a decision.

Again SO SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS AS THAT WAS A VERY QUICK DECISION -- WHAT DID YOU LAWYER DO AT COURT AS HE SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT OR DEFENDED IT AS MY LAWYER WAS NOT ASKED ANYTHING TO DEFEND.

Again so so sorry to hear this brother now I am feeling stressed as I have not got or heard anything spoke to AIT last week they say the decision is reserved and pending details from the judge.

Hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Thanks

My hearing was last Monday, we received determination letter on Friday saying the appeal has been rejected. We had no chance on immigration rules however, I felt like my wife should have been given the visa under article 8.

The Judge seems to have overlooked a lot of the comments I made in my statement. I will be appealing to the upper tribunal.

My wife did do the test but Judge said anything that is done after the date of decision cannot be taken into consideration. The determination letter is around 7 pages long. She just goes through the whole case and how she came to her decision.

I don't think you should worry too much, your case was more straightforward. I knew I had no chance on the immigration rules but we argued about article 8 to no avail. The Judge says Article 8 can't be used in my case and even suggested I could go to live in Pakistan. She clearly overlooked the fact that I stated I have job commitments, me and my daughter are both British citizens.

I'm applying to appeal to the upper tribunal.

[nawaz86]

I'm very confused I've just been to the solicitors
To ask him if I can win my spouse visa appeal he told me I've got no chance
Reason for refusal I didn't submit 6 months payslip and bank statements
I only submitted 3 months. I told the solicitor that I can provide the missing
Payslips and bankstatements back dated to time of refusal
But he said entry clearance officer was right to refuse your application
And you will lose you appeal as i didnt submit full 6 months payslips/bankstatements so I'm confused
Know as to wot to do everyone on this forum told me I should win as this is
A easy case any advice would be helpful should
I cancel the appeal as my court dates in march 2014 don't want to wait that long only to be refused

[munashak]

OK but still if you have a daughter they need to give the visa as that covers Right to Family Life and also Human rights as well.

Really confused with your decision as I am sure you should have got the appeal allowed as really shocked to hear all this and again my condolences with yourself and your family.

I had put in so much documents in time of appeal but they were not looked at and also more documents when we went to the hearing but judge never questioned anything as maybe when my witnesses went then obviously HO or judge can not state they are lying as both were employer & landlady.

Anyway I am awaiting decision and I hope to get good news soon. Do keep me updated as I am sure Upper Tribunal will allow appeal as this is shocking and a disgrace to HO and everyone else.

Have a good day.

Thanks

OMG!

I am so shocked at this decision and that was very quick to get a determination letter as you got it within 2-3 days as I am still awaiting on mines.

I am not sure as it should be given as I had gave a lot of evidence after my application and even in appeal I had gave lots of extra information. Really feeling anxious.

May I ask what was written on the determination letter. Did you wife not do her English test in time for appeal as all documents sent in appeal should be considered when making a decision.

Again SO SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS AS THAT WAS A VERY QUICK DECISION -- WHAT DID YOU LAWYER DO AT COURT AS HE SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT OR DEFENDED IT AS MY LAWYER WAS NOT ASKED ANYTHING TO DEFEND.

Again so so sorry to hear this brother now I am feeling stressed as I have not got or heard anything spoke to AIT last week they say the decision is reserved and pending details from the judge.

Hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Thanks

My hearing was last Monday, we received determination letter on Friday saying the appeal has been rejected. We had no chance on immigration rules however, I felt like my wife should have been given the visa under article 8.

The Judge seems to have overlooked a lot of the comments I made in my statement. I will be appealing to the upper tribunal.

My wife did do the test but Judge said anything that is done after the date of decision cannot be taken into consideration. The determination letter is around 7 pages long. She just goes through the whole case and how she came to her decision.

I don't think you should worry too much, your case was more straightforward. I knew I had no chance on the immigration rules but we argued about article 8 to no avail. The Judge says Article 8 can't be used in my case and even suggested I could go to live in Pakistan. She clearly overlooked the fact that I stated I have job commitments, me and my daughter are both British citizens.

I'm applying to appeal to the upper tribunal.

very upset after reading your post of appeal determination.Akhan47 just sabar nd think that we will get visa when ALLAH ALMIGHTY want to bless on time. so wait 4 time. i know its very very hard to wait nd apart from family but nothing can do in front of ALLAH ALMIGHTY decisions. my court hearing on 18th sep very upset nd my case is similar to haroon

[HaroonAli]

Make sure brother you take witnesses with yourself and get a Witness Statement from them as well.

I took my employer who admitted his fault and my landlady went to state I have been living since May 2012 in her house. If you take employer & landlady and they answer everything then the judge and HO in most cases can not do anything as otherwise they will have to turn around and say they are lying or think the information is fake.

**MAKE SURE THAT IF YOUR CASE IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH EMPLOYMENT OR PROPERTY TAKE THE RELEVANT PARTIES CONCERNED AS WHEN THEY WENT IN WE NEVER DEFENDED ANYTHING AS HOME OFFICE WAS MORE THAN SATISFIED AND JUDGE ONLY ASKED ONE QUESTION TO EACH!**

OK but still if you have a daughter they need to give the visa as that covers Right to Family Life and also Human rights as well.

Really confused with your decision as I am sure you should have got the appeal allowed as really shocked to hear all this and again my condolences with yourself and your family.

I had put in so much documents in time of appeal but they were not looked at and also more documents when we went to the hearing but judge never questioned anything as maybe when my witnesses went then obviously HO or judge can not state they are lying as both were employer & landlady.

Anyway I am awaiting decision and I hope to get good news soon. Do keep me updated as I am sure Upper Tribunal will allow appeal as this is shocking and a disgrace to HO and everyone else.

Have a good day.

Thanks

OMG!

I am so shocked at this decision and that was very quick to get a determination letter as you got it within 2-3 days as I am still awaiting on mines.

I am not sure as it should be given as I had gave a lot of evidence after my application and even in appeal I had gave lots of extra information. Really feeling anxious.

May I ask what was written on the determination letter. Did you wife not do her English test in time for appeal as all documents sent in appeal should be considered when making a decision.

Again SO SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS AS THAT WAS A VERY QUICK DECISION -- WHAT DID YOU LAWYER DO AT COURT AS HE SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT OR DEFENDED IT AS MY LAWYER WAS NOT ASKED ANYTHING TO DEFEND.

Again so so sorry to hear this brother now I am feeling stressed as I have not got or heard anything spoke to AIT last week they say the decision is reserved and pending details from the judge.

Hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Thanks

My wife did do the test but Judge said anything that is done after the date of decision cannot be taken into consideration. The determination letter is around 7 pages long. She just goes through the whole case and how she came to her decision.

I don't think you should worry too much, your case was more straightforward. I knew I had no chance on the immigration rules but we argued about article 8 to no avail. The Judge says Article 8 can't be used in my case and even suggested I could go to live in Pakistan. She clearly overlooked the fact that I stated I have job commitments, me and my daughter are both British citizens.

I'm applying to appeal to the upper tribunal.

very upset after reading your post of appeal determination.Akhan47 just sabar nd think that we will get visa when ALLAH ALMIGHTY want to bless on time. so wait 4 time. i know its very very hard to wait nd apart from family but nothing can do in front of ALLAH ALMIGHTY decisions. my court hearing on 18th sep very upset nd my case is similar to haroon

[akhan47]

Thank you for your words brothers. I'm going to Pakistan on Wednesday to be with my family.

Can anyway advise me on how long of a process appealing to upper tribunal is? I will apply to appeal tomorrow, how long will I have to wait for a response? How long away will the date be if we are given a hearing?

[abidabzhussain]

Any idea what date of court hearing could one get if the notice of pending appeal is on 8 October 2013.

Visa was refused on 22 march.. They did not accept review .. Now on 8 octobor they will give hearing date? How long its taking now a days. It will be from london.

[nawaz86]

Any idea what date of court hearing could one get if the notice of pending appeal is on 8 October 2013.

Visa was refused on 22 march.. They did not accept review .. Now on 8 octobor they will give hearing date? How long its taking now a days. It will be from london.

You'll get a court date in April 2014

[abidabzhussain]

And after appeal approval how long it will take to have passport in hand with visa stamped

[nawaz86]

And after appeal approval how long it will take to have passport in hand with visa stamped

About 2-3 months

[abidabzhussain]

Are you sure...??

Thats a v long time

[nawaz86]

Are you sure...??

Thats a v long time

Yes honestly court dates in London are
Being listed 6-7 months ahead

[zully]

Are you sure...??

Thats a v long time

Yes honestly court dates in London are
Being listed 6-7 months ahead

At present it is taking about 6 months for court dates, but at the same time it may quiet down by your time and you may get it quick, the normal if they are not very busy is 8 weeks after the deadline... you will not get any soner i hope that helps.

[zully]

My hearing was last Monday, we received determination letter on Friday saying the appeal has been rejected. We had no chance on immigration rules however, I felt like my wife should have been given the visa under article 8.

The Judge seems to have overlooked a lot of the comments I made in my statement. I will be appealing to the upper tribunal.

im so sorry to hear, this is really bad news. it seems like your judge cannot be bothered. also did you not take a lawyer or solicitor...
your rejection is the same as many people out there alot of people had their english test as a reason of rejection but you are the first person that has had his appeal refused. defo make sure you take it to second tribunal and put an experdite letter for judge.... i.e wife is very ill ect ect, your daughter is sufferring and your in depression, go doctors tell them your stressed, get them to write a letter too

[HaroonAli]

Good Evening Guys,

Hope all is well.

Can anyone give me an idea when I should get the Determination Letter from AIT as I spoke with them today and at the moment they have no further update as they are awaiting to hear back from the Judge and stated they will let me know as soon as they hear back.

May I ask can anyone give me a rough estimate when I should get a decision as feeling anxious and just wanting to find out soon so the stress and tension is over.

Hope to get an idea as AIT said it can take up to 4 weeks and before then they are unable to do anything.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Haroon Ali

[nawaz86]

[quote="HaroonAli"]Good Evening Guys,

Hope all is well.

Can anyone give me an idea when I should get the Determination Letter from AIT as I spoke with them today and at the moment they have no further update as they are awaiting to hear back from the Judge and stated they will let me know as soon as they hear back.

May I ask can anyone give me a rough estimate when I should get a decision as feeling anxious and just wanting to find out soon so the stress and tension is over.

Hope to get an idea as AIT said it can take up to 4 weeks and before then they are unable to do anything.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Haroon

It's usually 2 weeks

[munashak]

Make sure brother you take witnesses with yourself and get a Witness Statement from them as well.

I took my employer who admitted his fault and my landlady went to state I have been living since May 2012 in her house. If you take employer & landlady and they answer everything then the judge and HO in most cases can not do anything as otherwise they will have to turn around and say they are lying or think the information is bad quality.

**MAKE SURE THAT IF YOUR CASE IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH EMPLOYMENT OR PROPERTY TAKE THE RELEVANT PARTIES CONCERNED AS WHEN THEY WENT IN WE NEVER DEFENDED ANYTHING AS HOME OFFICE WAS MORE THAN SATISFIED AND JUDGE ONLY ASKED ONE QUESTION TO EACH!** my husband is living with parents so no problem nd employer will go in court

OK but still if you have a daughter they need to give the visa as that covers Right to Family Life and also Human rights as well.

Really confused with your decision as I am sure you should have got the appeal allowed as really shocked to hear all this and again my condolences with yourself and your family.

I had put in so much documents in time of appeal but they were not looked at and also more documents when we went to the hearing but judge never questioned anything as maybe when my witnesses went then obviously HO or judge can not state they are lying as both were employer & landlady.

Anyway I am awaiting decision and I hope to get good news soon. Do keep me updated as I am sure Upper Tribunal will allow appeal as this is shocking and a disgrace to HO and everyone else.

Have a good day.

Thanks

My wife did do the test but Judge said anything that is done after the date of decision cannot be taken into consideration. The determination letter is around 7 pages long. She just goes through the whole case and how she came to her decision.

I don't think you should worry too much, your case was more straightforward. I knew I had no chance on the immigration rules but we argued about article 8 to no avail. The Judge says Article 8 can't be used in my case and even suggested I could go to live in Pakistan. She clearly overlooked the fact that I stated I have job commitments, me and my daughter are both British citizens.

I'm applying to appeal to the upper tribunal.

very upset after reading your post of appeal determination.Akhan47 just sabar nd think that we will get visa when ALLAH ALMIGHTY want to bless on time. so wait 4 time. i know its very very hard to wait nd apart from family but nothing can do in front of ALLAH ALMIGHTY decisions. my court hearing on 18th sep very upset nd my case is similar to haroon