fiance/PCP visa and visitor visa query.

mym · Post by **mym** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:55 pm

My partner is applying shortly for a Proposed Civil Partner Visa in Moscow, he already has a UK Visitor Visa valid until November.

If for some reason they turn down the application can he still use that visa to come and see me, or would it be affected by a refusal of the PCP Visa application?

Many thanks in advance for any help.

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:55 am

No! he can apply for the 'Proposed Civilpartner Visa' inspite of the existing visit visa if all the documents are in order.

mym · Post by **mym** » Wed May 30, 2007 2:38 pm

Yes I know. That was not what I asked about...

jes2jes · Post by **jes2jes** » Wed May 30, 2007 2:55 pm

Technically he/she can still travel with the VV since the refusal of the UPV does not cancel the visitors visa but the other way round is correct.

I say techinically because the refusal may raise flags at Immigration Control and your fiance has to convince the IO they would go back and their aim is to visit not to settle considering their intention to settle with the previous visa application. It would depend on the IO and also how convincing the traveller would present their case too.

The technical answer is NO but don't forget the above.

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Wed May 30, 2007 3:32 pm

I am sorry but I misread the question. Regarding your question, I concur with what jes2jes has said above.

mym · Post by **mym** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:58 pm

Many thanks jes2jes.

Hopefully previous visits and departures and arriving with a return ticket would be sufficient for the IO.

jes2jes · Post by **jes2jes** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:18 pm

mym wrote:Many thanks jes2jes.

Hopefully previous visits and departures and arriving with a return ticket would be sufficient for the IO.

That is fine but don't forget strong social ties to the Visitor's country of abode is also a very important factor in such issues/cases relating to visa applications.

Al the best.

mym · Post by **mym** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:15 am

jes2jes wrote:
mym wrote:Many thanks jes2jes.

Hopefully previous visits and departures and arriving with a return ticket would be sufficient for the IO.
That is fine but don't forget strong social ties to the Visitor's country of abode is also a very important factor in such issues/cases relating to visa applications.

Al the best.

Most advice we've got has boiled down to this: our PCP
application is strong and comprehensive but the main weak point is that
we have only met for 21 days and that, although that meets the "must have met" rule, an ECO that is disinclined to believe that our relationship is
genuine could refuse on that basis.

It was suggested that we meet a few more times, and go on a holiday etc
then apply with that extra evidence of time spent together.

Can you think of any reason why we should not use some of the 4 and a half months that are left on my Partner's visitor visa to spend that time living together in the UK? Obviously I would be supporting him during that time as he would not be able to work - but that's cheaper than flying all over the place several times only to spend shorter periods together.

Then, when the visitor visa is about to expire we would go to Moscow and
apply for the PCP, with much more (and rather less dismissable) evidence
that we intend to live together.

Can anyone see any flaws in this approach?

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