Parent and adult son OCI application.

[emgray]

Hello,
My mother and myself would like to apply for an OCI using the proof that my mother's father was an Indian citizen but what I wanted to know was if it would be possible for me to apply at the same time as my mother or do I have to wait till her OCI comes through?

As a British citizen my mother has the following things to show when she comes to the embassy (the originals as well as copies)

Filled form
Birth certificate
UK naturalization certificate
Passport
Proof of father's Indian citizenship - Certificate of registration issued under section 18 (1) (B) of the act No.3 of 1949. The Indian and Pakistani (citizenship) act.

Is there anything else that needs to be brought in for everything to go smoothly?

Lastly, I saw that the tokens are issued at 8:30am. I assume that means the earlier you're there in the queue the lower the number you get for your application submission but what would be the best time to get there for the first couple of tokens.

Advice will be very much appreciated.
Kind regards

[samkma]

Hope this information will help you.
Who is eligible to apply for OCI?
A foreign national, who was eligible to become a citizen of India on 26.01.1950 or was a citizen of India on or anytime after 26.01.1950 or belonged to a territory that became part of India after 15.08.1947 and his/her children and grandchildren, provided their country of citizenship allows dual citizenship in some form or the other under the local laws, is eligible for registration as an Overseas Citizen of India (OCI). Minor children of such a person are also eligible for OCI. However, if the applicant had ever been a citizen of Pakistan or Bangladesh, he/she will not be eligible for OCI.

What documents would qualify for "Any other proof" for evidence of self or parents or grandparents being eligible for grant of OCI?
Any documentary evidence by which the Officer equivalent to Under Secretary to the Government of India in the Indian Mission/Post can diligently arrive at the decision. Documents may vary from person to person depending on the personal circumstances.

From my understanding your mother should apply first and then you follow your application that your mother has OCI.

Regarding tokens at HCI - see https://www.hcilondon.in/oci.html & see the blog http://ticklingtigers.wordpress.com/201 ... g-for-oci/

[emgray]

Appreciate the reply samkma,

My mother is a little nervous about being rejected so I'm just looking for 2 confirmations.
First, if the proof of my grandfather (who was born in 1932) will be accepted by the HCI (i.e. has anyone used what we will be using?).
Secondly, if the documents she has assembled will be accepted (I don't want to go there and be turned back simply because of something we didn't bring).

You say that my mother should apply first but ticklingtigers (from the wordpress blog you linked to) said to a person that was in a similar situation as us to fill separate applications and submit them at the same time. From reading the eligibility section as I'm the grandson I could get the OCI on my own couldn't I? If this is the case would I need to have a copy of my mother's birth certificate with my application so the connection can be made from my grandfather to me.

As for the token system, for anyone who has done this recently would being there at 7:30 allow us to be one of the first?

[ban.s]

As a British citizen my mother has the following things to show when she comes to the embassy (the originals as well as copies)

Filled form
Birth certificate
UK naturalization certificate
Passport
Proof of father's Indian citizenship - Certificate of registration issued under section 18 (1) (B) of the act No.3 of 1949. The Indian and Pakistani (citizenship) act.

whose naturalization certificate? your mother's or her fathers?

[emgray]

My mother's, her father isn't a British citizen.

[ban.s]

where was she born?

what was her nationality before naturalization?

[emgray]

The original nationality of my mother and myself is Sri-Lankan, my grandfather is still a Sri-Lankan citizen.

[ban.s]

Has your grand father ever formally renounced his indian citizenship? If not, I suggest let him first formally renounce citizenship and obtain a surrender certificate.
Once you have that then your mother and you can apply together along with other standard documents.

[emgray]

I don't know the answer to that question.

My mother's paternal cousin applied for an OCI in Sri-Lanka and it was granted on the same proof that my mother would like to show (obviously it was her own parent's certificate) and they hadn't renounced anything or had a surrender certificate.

Side note: other than this do you think that all the other documents are in order?

[ban.s]

Is there any name change? e.g. name in the birth certificate different from current name? Otherwise the other documents look fine.

It's quite difficult to confirm whether your grand fathers certificate of registration would be accepted or not. As per current process a formal surrender certificate is a must for all applicants. Even though your grand father is not applying for OCI I would expect a formal surrender certificate would still be required - atleast to tick the boxes. However it's my interpretation. The HCI officials may not insist.

I would send an email to ss.oci@hcilondon.in and seek confirmation.

[ban.s]

on a second thought - the surrender certificate may not be required and the registration certificate will suffice.

they key question is - whether your grand father is eligible for OCI or not? the answer is yes and it's on the basis of his registration certificate.

is your grand father himself applying for OCI? the answer is no so surrender certificate not relevant.

you and your mother will apply on the basis of the OCI eligibility of your grand father ...so registration certification will do.

however still send an email and cross check.

[emgray]

There is a surname difference between the birth certificate and the name on her British passport (maiden name to married name) so we should take a copy of her marriage certificate shouldn't we?

Like I said in on of my previous posts about filling separate applications and submitting at the same time will we need separate tokens or can we use the same token to submit both at the same time because we do share some of the paperwork.
Also, just to confirm when someone says separate applications they mean for me to do my own part B don't they?

I've tried that e-mail but have never received a reply.

ban.s I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to help me.

[ban.s]

yes, marriage certificate will be fine. presume your surname is same as your mother's surname after marriage, so that marriage certificate is also relevant to you.

if you plan to submit application in person then both of you need to be present at HCI and with a single token you'll be able submit both applications together.

Patience is a virtue while dealing with HCI especially if you are expecting an action from their end.

[emgray]

Just one more confirmation, we both have separate Part B's that will be fine won't it?

[ban.s]

Yes, it should be fine.

[emgray]

It turns out that they don't accept the certificate of registration as OCI proof even after the person on the phone said that it would be accepted.

The woman at the counter said that they need a birth certificate which I don't think is possible because it can't be found or he doesn't seem to have one when it was checked on a trip to India (not surprising because those records would be over 80 years old), the other issue is that a bunch of stuff was lost when there were troubles in Sri-lanka during 1983.

I'm glad I got some work done on my tablet while standing in the queue from 6:45 otherwise me standing there until my mother came would have been a complete waste of time.

[ban.s]

perhaps you can try the Nativity Certificate option?

https://www.hcilondon.in/nativity_certificate.html