UK man - Indonesian girlfriend. Please advice... :)

[Cee-Jay89]

Hi guys,

So grateful I found this forum and would just like to say a very big thank you in advance for providing such useful information!

My situation is...

I am 24 years old and have met an Indonesian girl from Jakarta who studies for her degree where she still has 3 years left of study.
She is 19 years old and will be 20 at the end of May 6 days after my birthday.

Having known each other online and having met once for two weeks in real life in India where she studied we are deeply deeply in love and eventually in years to come providing all goes well she wants to move over here with me etc...

I am currently unemployed at the moment and understand that I must earn the minimum financial requirement and have at least 6 months worth of payslips to provide currently as the rules exist.

Over the last few months was when we started emailing each other for it gives us better evidence to log down of regular forms of contact. We skype daily but that is hard to prove that we keep in touch tbh there is so much text it's amazing. When ever we cam usually a few times per week I take at least 3 screenshots per session with my computer's time and date within the screenshot.

We have saved gifts and receipts from one another for gifts and cards and letters that we have sent back and forth to one another.

We have photographs together in real life whilst in Mumbai and photographs with her friends as well on her course.

Eventually I know I can get many letters confirming this is a genuine relationship and long lasting from my friends and family.

I live with my parents at the moment but the house has a good size extension on the side and is basically another house comfortable for at least 3 people which is where I live most of the time.

I am currently setting myself a foundation here and with my background in security, charity / community work and my suitable qualifications contributing towards the career path that I want to pursue. I want to become a PCSO / police community support officer when ever the next application process comes up. My dad is an Inspector in the police which doesn't mean a lot in regards to getting me a job but gives me inspiration to pursue this line of work due to it's varying degree of roles. Anyway the job pays close to £19,000 per year which overtime as well to meet the financial requirement.

So far I have saved phone bills from one another, plane tickets, hotel reservation, bank statements in regards to money used whilst in India with her and money spent on gifts whilst in the UK on her. I have kept every receipt and card I have that has been sent to her and her cards and letters sent to me. I bought her a loves poon for her birthday with our names engraved on it also awwww how sweet lol.

We want to meet up again this year ideally, especially once I get my security license back in the near future and I can start getting money in not that my family doesn't support me financially they have been incredible to me.

She plans to come to the UK when the time is right to meet my family etc.. and have pictures with them etc.. to provide even better evidence.

There is no rush as far as we are concerned and we are going with the flow and following out heart's desire.

We love each other beyond words like I cannot explain it's the best thing I have ever experienced in my life so far and those two weeks in India were simply magical and just blissful beyond explanation.

So in my heart I know as long as we keep doing what we are doing and eventually I know we can apply for a fiance visa in years to come probably providing all is still well!

One more thing I am not sure if this is a must BUT do I have to visit her home country with photographic evidence? Is this must? I know we need her to come to the UK ideally to meet my family on at least one occasion. The thing is she is Muslim or raised a Muslim but she doesn't practice Islam but her parents are quite strict Muslims and they know about me. They said if she so mentions my name they will kick her out of the house etc... as far as they are concerned. Will this have any effect on the application process if / when we do decide to apply ofr a fiance visa in probably at least 3 years!

I would like ANY advice or tips to give us the best shot of being together long term this has been my dream for as long as I can remember and I am willing to do anything in my power to be with this girl her also.

THANK YOU!

[askmeplz82]

interesting love story : still long way . no one can tell you now because UK immigration law changes every year. Who knows what the new government does after election in 2015

[Cee-Jay89]

interesting love story : still long way . no one can tell you now because UK immigration law changes every year. Who knows what the new government does after election in 2015

Yes I completely appreciate that but as far as evidence in regards to proving that this relationship is genuine and subsisting am I on the right tracks or what else do I have to do?

Thank you!

[askmeplz82]

interesting love story : still long way . no one can tell you now because UK immigration law changes every year. Who knows what the new government does after election in 2015

Yes I completely appreciate that but as far as evidence in regards to proving that this relationship is genuine and subsisting am I on the right tracks or what else do I have to do?

Thank you!

3 years communication history, pictures and holiday together more then enough to prove it is genuine not like you meet someone 1 month ago and decided to marry

[Wanderer]

interesting love story : still long way . no one can tell you now because UK immigration law changes every year. Who knows what the new government does after election in 2015

Yes I completely appreciate that but as far as evidence in regards to proving that this relationship is genuine and subsisting am I on the right tracks or what else do I have to do?

Thank you!

Not easy with long distance relationships, you need a lot of cash, for visits, flights, etc, to get to know someone properly. Statistically the odds are against you already. Take a look in the EEA forum especially for the failed marriage, separation and divorce threads after 2/3 years, they happen anyway but statistically far more often when there are linguistic and cultural differences too.

So for me you have to visit each other often, holiday together, get some proper face-time because it does appear you are living in lovey-dovey land at the moment and that doesn't last I'm afraid.

[Cee-Jay89]

interesting love story : still long way . no one can tell you now because UK immigration law changes every year. Who knows what the new government does after election in 2015

Yes I completely appreciate that but as far as evidence in regards to proving that this relationship is genuine and subsisting am I on the right tracks or what else do I have to do?

Thank you!

Not easy with long distance relationships, you need a lot of cash, for visits, flights, etc, to get to know someone properly. Statistically the odds are against you already. Take a look in the EEA forum especially for the failed marriage, separation and divorce threads after 2/3 years, they happen anyway but statistically far more often when there are linguistic and cultural differences too.

So for me you have to visit each other often, holiday together, get some proper face-time because it does appear you are living in lovey-dovey land at the moment and that doesn't last I'm afraid.

[357mag]

Write an Affidavit and go to a commisioner of oaths to get it signed and dated, in 2 years it will be useful proof of your connection if you are not married by then.

[Cee-Jay89]

Write an Affidavit and go to a commisioner of oaths to get it signed and dated, in 2 years it will be useful proof of your connection if you are not married by then.

OH....

Can you give me more details regarding this please?

Is this a signed agreement that our relationship is real and genuine?

Can you explain it to me a bit better please?

I'm new to this lol

As much detail as possible please

[Cee-Jay89]

[/quote][/quote] Not easy with long distance relationships, you need a lot of cash, for visits, flights, etc, to get to know someone properly. Statistically the odds are against you already. Take a look in the EEA forum especially for the failed marriage, separation and divorce threads after 2/3 years, they happen anyway but statistically far more often when there are linguistic and cultural differences too.

So for me you have to visit each other often, holiday together, get some proper face-time because it does appear you are living in lovey-dovey land at the moment and that doesn't last I'm afraid.[/quote][/quote]


But is what I am doing now on the right tracks, let's say we meet up at least one time per year. The money is here with my family, no problem there, I keep emails daily, skype photo graphs multiple times per week with us 'together.' etc...

[357mag]

There is not a general acceptance of scype emails or facebook chats.

An afidavit, well if you take one to a commisioner of oaths they will witness it and sign and date it. A Commisioner of oaths charges a fixed fee of £5 for this wheras a solicitor can charge what they want, I've heard of people paying £80.

Yes just a simple statement.
I ???? of ????/ do solemly swear that I have been in a relationship with my partner ???? since ????.

Theres a few samples around if you do a google search.

It probably has little value other than being your word that you knew each other on the date it was signed, but hey it could be a fiver well spent.

[Cee-Jay89]

There is not a general acceptance of scype emails or facebook chats.

An afidavit, well if you take one to a commisioner of oaths they will witness it and sign and date it. A Commisioner of oaths charges a fixed fee of £5 for this wheras a solicitor can charge what they want, I've heard of people paying £80.

Yes just a simple statement.
I ???? of ????/ do solemly swear that I have been in a relationship with my partner ???? since ????.

Theres a few samples around if you do a google search.

Thank you for clearing that up my man.

I will be sure to get this done as soon as possible.

But I have skype pictures taken, you know screenshots which I can print out on photographic paper with my computer's date and time on it showing we have regular face contact plus multiple emails daily is this sufficient enough so far?

[357mag]

Photos can be faked with photoshop, and fakes heve been spotted in the past.

Better to have a pic of you together next to a famous landmark with tickets to verify the date.

Joint bank account can help.

But I think you have the right idea, collect anything and everything that might help in the future.

Wite a letter to your MP
"its my desire to bring my partner ????? to live with me in the U. With thoughts of next years General election in mind I wonder if you could tell me your position regarding UK citizens bringing their partner to be with then in the UK"

What they write back dont matter, its just more evidence that you have a patnership on the date they write.

[Cee-Jay89]

Photos can be faked with photoshop, and fakes heve been spotted in the past.

Better to have a pic of you together next to a famous landmark with tickets to verify the date.

Joint bank account can help.

But I think you have the right idea, collect anything and everything that might help in the future.

We have pictures in Mumbai together already I know we will meet up more in the future of course. Plane tickets, hotel reservations etc... joint bank accounts I don't know how we can do this? Is it possible for me to join my bank account from here with hers in Indonesia?

[Cee-Jay89]

Thanks for all the replies gents and ladies perhaps!

Really appreciate it though.

If you have anything else to add I am all ears listening thank you!

[Cee-Jay89]