WHEN TO COME TO UK?

[SAMISPOUSAL]

When the spouse gets the entry clearance visa to come to UK
how long is that spouse visa ?
it was a two year visa before ? but not now?
when does the spouse come to UK ?
within 28 days of getting the visa ?
why within the 28 days ?
the applicant spouse still has to spend 2 years in uk before extending the visa AND THAT extension must be done during the last 28 days of that visa?
when we get the spouse visa is there a small time frame in which we must enter UK?
are there any other terms and conditions of spouse visa ?
Thank you for all your replies

[vinny]

See also Section D-ECP: Decision on application for entry clearance as a partner and Section D-LTRP: Decision on application for limited leave to remain as a partner.

Should initially enter within 3 months of visa's effective date.

5-year qualifying period for ILR starts on the date of entry.
May apply for extension before leave expires.
May apply for ILR up to 28 days prior to completion of qualifying period and before leave expires.

[SAMISPOUSAL]

Viny

Thank you for reply.

others also come forward with your real real personal experiences plaese rather than refering to the very generic jungle of the home office website.

do i understand it correct ?
my wife will get 27 month visa
come over to uk and spend two years here in uk (in which time pass the B1 and Life in Uk test)
so after being here just TWO years in UK apply for ILR (because she is married to me a well settled Brit)

then after one more year ( when she will have been here 3 years) apply for British citizenship ?

PLEASE COMMENT IS ALL THAT CORRECT ?
Tell us your experiences and wisdom on the matter.

Thank you

[SoHopeful]

No that was under the old rules before July 2012...

Your wife will initially get 33 months on her spouse visa. When she has completed 30 months and passed the relevant tests, she has to renew her visa by applying for FLR for another 30 months. Once your wife has spent 60 months/5 years here in total she can apply for ILR. You will have to pay the relevant fees and meet the financial requirement for each stage also (if income is a requirement for ILR).

I'm not sure how it works for citizenship under the new rules though... Every spouse will have completed 5 years so presumably they would meet the residency requirement straightaway??

[vinny]

others also come forward with your real real personal experiences plaese rather than refering to the very generic jungle of the home office website.

do i understand it correct ?
my wife will get 27 month visa
come over to uk and spend two years here in uk (in which time pass the B1 and Life in Uk test)
so after being here just TWO years in UK apply for ILR (because she is married to me a well settled Brit)

then after one more year ( when she will have been here 3 years) apply for British citizenship ?

PLEASE COMMENT IS ALL THAT CORRECT ?

It may be prudent to try to understand the current UKBA/UKVI website rather than relying on people's experiences with obsolete rules.

[SAMISPOUSAL]

vinny
thank you for reply
yes i did look at the home office web site...and now understand the 5 years new rule...
thank u to sohopeful you are really wonderful with your reply..

someone local who works in immigrants advisory service told me REPEATEDLY AND EXPLICITLY
the old system will apply to us ...(so he is wrong .....Thank you Sohopeful)

infact it is the new system that will be applied..(as VINNY says)
so it is good to come on here and clear up the confusion and doubts and uncertainty ..
immigration IS THE most superlatively nastiest beastly and monstrous process so it is essential to consider and reconsider our understandings on here. And it is so important for us to get it right. Major life time decisions..

well settled Brit man sponsoring Indian wife
SPOUSAL VISA aplication in MUMBAI 10 December 2013
in process .waiting for decision.

[vinny]

someone local who works in immigrants advisory service told me REPEATEDLY AND EXPLICITLY the old system will apply to us ...

Any ideas why he thought so?

[Amber]

SAMISPOUSAL, you have been asking the same questions since December 2012. You have bombarded the forum on numerous occasions. You must have about 10 different threads asking about a spouse visa. You have been told and knew previously that your spouse would be subject to the Post July 2012 rules as she hasn't had any previous leave to enter/remain. Then you go to an immigration advisor who you say offers poor advice. I suggest you refrain from opening any more threads on this matter, otherwise you'll find they'll be locked and you banned.

[SAMISPOUSAL]

forum is for people to ask q
not to insult and upset with tyrannical comments

[SAMISPOUSAL]

someone local who works in immigrants advisory service told me REPEATEDLY AND EXPLICITLY the old system will apply to us ...

Any ideas why he thought so?

good question vinny

i told him several times that i think the new rules should apply..
but he was of that opinion ( repeatedly and explicitly ) because he said look at the citizenship application form ..
it says if you are the spouse of a well settled BRIT person then you only need to account for three years history rather than five...( he showed me on his screen)..
so he said if the citizenship is only asking for 3 years then therefore the ILR must also be 3 as well because ILR comes before citizenship..

thats why i came to this forum to let you know what happened.

[vinny]

He's confusing citizenship requirements with ILR requirements.

[Amber]

Sounds like the advisor shouldn't be advising.

And for citizenship it doesn't matter if the spouse/civil partner is a 'well settled Brit' or not, just that s(he) is British.

[SAMISPOUSAL]

he is not registered as an adviser
they do all things immigration like driving test , settlement, english test etc
the immigration lawyer is next door with which they have close connection...
anyway we are not here to be nasty and horrible to any one who does not fully understand everything...
no one has perfect knowledge.
there are many many people even on this forum also who misunderstand things and misinterpret

it is important to check and recheck all information on this beastly subject of immigration..
immigration is a process that is designed for us to fail as a default so when we do succeed we really will have done so well....

[Amber]

I'm sorry but if someone is offering immigration advice at a drop in session then they should be OISC registered and thus accountable. What you are saying is this person is a Charlatan. If he's offered you poor advice, who knows what other rubbish he's telling people. I hope no one pays him.

I'm not being nasty, horrible, insulting or tyrannical as you say. I am preventing you spreading incorrect information and continually opening the same threads.

[SAMISPOUSAL]

I WENT IN THERE of my own accord. I did not pay him. I had a choice.
and he is not a charlatan..

i do not detect anything sinister about him. he did not advise me .. he helped me and guided me with informed choice.and gave me information in a friendly loving manner.it was up to me to take aboard the information given to me.

i will speak to him soon with the new wisdom gained on this forum.. and report back here about what he says..

the fact that he did try to help me with pure intention and loving kind welcoming manner (but wrong information ) is far better than some other rude people I can think of.

Amber thank u for not being nasty

[SAMISPOUSAL]

please explain what is your problem if some one opens a few different threads on similar topic?

what is the harm to you ?
what is your problem is some one asks the same question?
if some one asks a SIMILAR question ONCE AGAIN ALONG WITH other questions it is not exactly a very serious problem ? is it ?
does this forum have a hidden agenda ? ulterior motive? run by lawyers trying to make a profit in reality... so dont care about plight of joe public asking simple questions. immigration is the most complex beast that the people will ever deal with so it is essential to ask questions. even Lawyers ask same questions in a slightly changed manner ? it is a wise man who checks and rechecks info by asking questions.

these are merely questions of curiosity amber need not come here to needlessly jump to wrong conclusions and threaten me with bans for asking these very sensible valid questions in this instance.
forum is about asking questions.
when we have the immigration as the enemy we do need to ask questions. lots of them and yes same ones again. to put our minds at rest.
there are many people on this forum with helpful goodwill attitude.. let not a few nasty minded spoil that please.
when we have doubts and uncertainty we do have a lot of questions burning inside us , even same ones.it has happened to you .
that is the time to help. and when we do have some one like VINNY help with a reply its a great feeling and we feel like returning that favour and help others...... be good be understanding be kind helpful....if you cant do that at least refrain from negatives.
how would you feel in your most hour of doubt and need and uncertainty that I come along and help you ?

[vinny]

please explain what is your problem if some one opens a few different threads on similar topic?

The problem is explained in the Announcement section.

[SAMISPOUSAL]

thank you VINNY

[Amber]

You need to watch what you're saying.

Myself and my fellow Moderators, Respected Gurus etc... give our time without pay or any hidden agenda. We have helped many people and ensure that the information posted is accurate and helps people.

If someone is giving free but wrong/bad advice then they may as well give no advice at all.

When you create new threads about the same topic it just unnecessarily clogs the forum. You've been warned before that's why I suggested if it continues you'd be banned.

We moderate tens of thousands of posts with very few (iota) complaints. There are few people on here who would see me as nasty, I'd surmise the opposite in fact. I'm sorry if I don't take your plights seriously but, what I have said is sticking whether you like it or not.

[SAMISPOUSAL]

can amber put this to a rest and stop dragging it on unnecessarily

[Wanderer]

can amber put this to a rest and stop dragging it on unnecessarily

Nothing personal, but you do some across as a bit of a ****. Sure you are a jolly fine chap etc, and Amber and I have crossed swords before so I understand your angst but she is right, posting the same issue over and over again is annoying and smacks of waiting for the answer you want, which I am sure is not the case.

Have a nice evening.

[SAMISPOUSAL]

thank u wanderer
when did i post the SAME verabtim EXACT same thing over and over again?????

were there not other questions with that (even if they were similar )?

and no i do not believe that I CLOGGED UP ANY THING AT ALL.
when did i open ten threads of the exact same thing? if it w as along time ago why bring it up now???
even if i did ask the same q more than once was that not because some thing happened to cause that?

[Wanderer]

thank u wanderer
when did i post the SAME verabtim EXACT same thing over and over again?????

were there not other questions with that (even if they were similar )?

and no i do not believe that I CLOGGED UP ANY THING AT ALL.
when did i open ten threads of the exact same thing? if it w as along time ago why bring it up now???
even if i did ask the same q more than once was that not because some thing happened to cause that?

Ok mate, was coming back to delete what I posted, I was trying to antagonise, a flaw in my character, for which I apologise.

Mods can delete...

[SAMISPOUSAL]

its ok wanderer
please be happy dont worry
i am sure u are a well travelled person who have met all sorts of funny people
and learnt to be diplomatic

[Amber]

1. SPOUSAL...PLEASE ADVISE
2. INCOME REQUIREMENT
3. How long must sponsor have job ?
4. LLB LAW DEGREE FROM INDIA OK ?
5. when to do passport before marriage or after ?
6. ENGLISH LANGUAGE TEST
7. Re: PPT and visa..pls advise
8. income requirement
9. financial requirements
10. SPONSOR CRITERIA

Above are 10 new threads, there must be 20 or more.

You have been told at least 4 times by fellow moderator batleykhan not to keep posting the same threads and again at least 4 times by the respected guru, Lucapooka.

I think that speaks for itself.