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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by RK3285 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:12 pm

Hi,
Can anyonr help me please.
can you check appointment availability before submitting your application. If YES. How?


Thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:31 pm

RK3285 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:12 pm
Hi,
Can anyonr help me please.
can you check appointment availability before submitting your application. If YES. How?


Thanks
No you can't. The appointment booking is part of the process at the end of the application.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by dnz34 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:55 pm

Hi All,

i have IRL fro 2 years, imgoing to apply for bc just a quick question,

i came uk 2008 and between 2010 to 2017 i was a self-employer, last 2 years im not working as i got married and looking after my baby,
when i filling the form do i need to put all my self employent work ?
and is is a problem to being unemployed

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:11 pm

dnz34 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:55 pm
Hi All,

i have IRL fro 2 years, imgoing to apply for bc just a quick question,

i came uk 2008 and between 2010 to 2017 i was a self-employer, last 2 years im not working as i got married and looking after my baby,
when i filling the form do i need to put all my self employent work ?
and is is a problem to being unemployed
Unemployment is not an issue for naturalisation - this is all about residency - you will need to list your self-employment and need to provide the appropriate documents (i.e. tax returns). For the period of unemployment you need to provide alternative proof of residency, such as council tax bills, HMRC correspondence, Pension, Child Benefit, etc.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by dnz34 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:20 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:11 pm
dnz34 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:55 pm
Hi All,

i have IRL fro 2 years, imgoing to apply for bc just a quick question,

i came uk 2008 and between 2010 to 2017 i was a self-employer, last 2 years im not working as i got married and looking after my baby,
when i filling the form do i need to put all my self employent work ?
and is is a problem to being unemployed
Unemployment is not an issue for naturalisation - this is all about residency - you will need to list your self-employment and need to provide the appropriate documents (i.e. tax returns). For the period of unemployment you need to provide alternative proof of residency, such as council tax bills, HMRC correspondence, Pension, Child Benefit, etc.
unfortunately i dont have an documents for previously my self employment. i have a new accountand and she is traying to sorth my problem out with hmrc :(

i owe some tax to hmrc, is that be a problem ? ( hopefully very soon ill start to pay in instalment

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:32 pm

dnz34 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:20 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:11 pm
dnz34 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:55 pm
Hi All,

i have IRL fro 2 years, imgoing to apply for bc just a quick question,

i came uk 2008 and between 2010 to 2017 i was a self-employer, last 2 years im not working as i got married and looking after my baby,
when i filling the form do i need to put all my self employent work ?
and is is a problem to being unemployed
Unemployment is not an issue for naturalisation - this is all about residency - you will need to list your self-employment and need to provide the appropriate documents (i.e. tax returns). For the period of unemployment you need to provide alternative proof of residency, such as council tax bills, HMRC correspondence, Pension, Child Benefit, etc.
unfortunately i dont have an documents for previously my self employment. i have a new accountand and she is traying to sorth my problem out with hmrc :(

i owe some tax to hmrc, is that be a problem ? ( hopefully very soon ill start to pay in instalment
Outstanding taxes are not an issue as long as you comply with all arrangements, such as payment plans. If you can't document periods of your self-employment you can still use alternative documents as already mentioned.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by dnz34 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:35 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:32 pm
dnz34 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:20 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:11 pm
dnz34 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:55 pm
Hi All,

i have IRL fro 2 years, imgoing to apply for bc just a quick question,

i came uk 2008 and between 2010 to 2017 i was a self-employer, last 2 years im not working as i got married and looking after my baby,
when i filling the form do i need to put all my self employent work ?
and is is a problem to being unemployed
Unemployment is not an issue for naturalisation - this is all about residency - you will need to list your self-employment and need to provide the appropriate documents (i.e. tax returns). For the period of unemployment you need to provide alternative proof of residency, such as council tax bills, HMRC correspondence, Pension, Child Benefit, etc.
unfortunately i dont have an documents for previously my self employment. i have a new accountand and she is traying to sorth my problem out with hmrc :(

i owe some tax to hmrc, is that be a problem ? ( hopefully very soon ill start to pay in instalment
Outstanding taxes are not an issue as long as you comply with all arrangements, such as payment plans. If you can't document periods of your self-employment you can still use alternative documents as already mentioned.
thank you very much for you quick respond.. hopefully i will have it in the end.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by dnz34 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:13 pm

can someone please help me to understand the absences ?

for 5 year period = 12 months not more than 90 days
and no more than 450 days in total 5 years.

does it have to be no more than 90 days in each years ?

july 2018- july 2019 = 7 days
2017 ive been away 384 days for give a birth and funeral one of my family member.

384 days in 2017 is a peoblem ?

thank you

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:37 pm

dnz34 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:13 pm
can someone please help me to understand the absences ?

for 5 year period = 12 months not more than 90 days
and no more than 450 days in total 5 years.

does it have to be no more than 90 days in each years ? NO

july 2018- july 2019 = 7 days
2017 ive been away 384 days for give a birth and funeral one of my family member.

384 days in 2017 is a peoblem ? NO

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by dnz34 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:48 am

CR001 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:37 pm
dnz34 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:13 pm
can someone please help me to understand the absences ?

for 5 year period = 12 months not more than 90 days
and no more than 450 days in total 5 years.

does it have to be no more than 90 days in each years ? NO

july 2018- july 2019 = 7 days
2017 ive been away 384 days for give a birth and funeral one of my family member.

384 days in 2017 is a peoblem ? NO

thank you
thank you CR001

can i please ask you one more question ? :)

ive been uk 11 years and i had my IRL 2 years ago as business person and also im married with British citizen 4 years.
i dont want to do my application as a spouse ( 3 year route ) . is this possible ?
if its possible do 5 year route how can i do that ?
is it in the form ?

thank you

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by RK3285 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:17 am

Hi,

I am on the referre part, I am about to print referres forms
But I have one question.
Do I still need to sign back of the passport pictures, even if they are scanning front part only.

Thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by RK3285 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:22 pm

Reply please...

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by kam18 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:11 pm

Hello everyone,
I do application in paper form and I have a few questions. I would appreciate, if you can help me please.
I will use my PR so in 1.1 Give any reference numbers used in your immigration do I need to put Case ID nr? Tha it is all found on the letter.
1.3 Should I leave it blank? I will need to fill 2.4 because I am EEA with PR and they ask for the date there as well.
1.12 Name of the city contains polish letter so I guess I should use only english letter am I right?
1.49 Details of your employment I am PAYE now but I was sole trader two years ago and closed business, so should I put my UTR in Tax reference number?
2.3 Obviously main home is England, should I put it then?
6.1 I have never been issued biometrics in the UK so I say no and in 6.17 I confirm that I wish to register my biometric information. Will they send me letter once they receive my application and say where should I to have it done?
7.10 It says Although I do not meet all of the statuory requirements for naturalisation... Well I believe I do meet all requirements so should I not tick that?
When it comes to the referees section should they sign it with their full name and surname or it can be their usual signature which you do not know what what is written really. Last thing is that, I would have one referee signing this month and another in October so the date would be different is that alright?

Thank you all in advance for help I really need answers for all the questions above.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:13 pm

kam18 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:11 pm
Hello everyone,
I do application in paper form and I have a few questions. I would appreciate, if you can help me please.
I will use my PR so in 1.1 Give any reference numbers used in your immigration do I need to put Case ID nr? Tha it is all found on the letter.
1.3 Should I leave it blank? I will need to fill 2.4 because I am EEA with PR and they ask for the date there as well.
1.12 Name of the city contains polish letter so I guess I should use only english letter am I right?
1.49 Details of your employment I am PAYE now but I was sole trader two years ago and closed business, so should I put my UTR in Tax reference number?
2.3 Obviously main home is England, should I put it then?
6.1 I have never been issued biometrics in the UK so I say no and in 6.17 I confirm that I wish to register my biometric information. Will they send me letter once they receive my application and say where should I to have it done?
7.10 It says Although I do not meet all of the statuory requirements for naturalisation... Well I believe I do meet all requirements so should I not tick that?
When it comes to the referees section should they sign it with their full name and surname or it can be their usual signature which you do not know what what is written really. Last thing is that, I would have one referee signing this month and another in October so the date would be different is that alright?

Thank you all in advance for help I really need answers for all the questions above.
You can't apply using the paper form. You must apply using the online form.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by kam18 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:32 pm

Are you sure? It says:
'You can also use this paper form if you live elsewhere and want to apply by post. You will need to submit your documents with your application.

Most people who live in the UK and apply online are able to keep their documents while their application is processed.'

I thought I can but the difference is that I can keep my documents when applying online. I checked the date of publishing it. Published 12 April 2019 Last updated 26 June 2019 — see all updates From:
UK Visas and Immigration I got this from this website: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... on-form-an

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:32 pm

kam18 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:32 pm
Are you sure? It says:
'You can also use this paper form if you live elsewhere and want to apply by post. You will need to submit your documents with your application.

Most people who live in the UK and apply online are able to keep their documents while their application is processed.'

I thought I can but the difference is that I can keep my documents when applying online. I checked the date of publishing it. Published 12 April 2019 Last updated 26 June 2019 — see all updates From:
UK Visas and Immigration I got this from this website: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... on-form-an
The paper form is if you live outside of England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland, as it clearly states.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by kam18 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:16 am

Okay I will try do it online. Thank you

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by rgupta » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:11 pm

Hi
I am applying for naturalisation next month and have 3 questions if anyone could please help.

1. I would like to check for the 'Immigration details' section where it asks 'Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or aboard'? What does this really mena? Does that need to include Tier 2 visa details and Tier 4 before I had my ILR from 2018?

2. If i've run out of space in the 'Trips outside the UK section' where's best to insert this information'?

3. Lastly one of my referees is in Switzerland (but British) would that be an issue?

Many thanks
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:44 pm

rgupta wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:11 pm
Hi
I am applying for naturalisation next month and have 3 questions if anyone could please help.

1. I would like to check for the 'Immigration details' section where it asks 'Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or aboard'? What does this really mena? Does that need to include Tier 2 visa details and Tier 4 before I had my ILR from 2018?

2. If i've run out of space in the 'Trips outside the UK section' where's best to insert this information'?

3. Lastly one of my referees is in Switzerland (but British) would that be an issue?

Many thanks
Roneeta
1. ALL visa applications you have made as the question asks.

2. Excel schedule and upload with documents.

3. No as long as they meet the requirements.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by rgupta » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:42 pm

Thank you very much, thats useful. I would also like to check if I got my ILR on 17th Sept last year, the date I should click 'Pay' in the naturalisation application would be on 17th Sept 2019 itself (I was in the UK on 17th Sept 2014)?

Thanks,
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CR001 wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:44 pm
rgupta wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:11 pm
Hi
I am applying for naturalisation next month and have 3 questions if anyone could please help.

1. I would like to check for the 'Immigration details' section where it asks 'Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or aboard'? What does this really mena? Does that need to include Tier 2 visa details and Tier 4 before I had my ILR from 2018?

2. If i've run out of space in the 'Trips outside the UK section' where's best to insert this information'?

3. Lastly one of my referees is in Switzerland (but British) would that be an issue?

Many thanks
Roneeta
1. ALL visa applications you have made as the question asks.

2. Excel schedule and upload with documents.

3. No as long as they meet the requirements.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Rollingcabbage » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:21 am

hereorthere wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:48 am
Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!
i thought the same.

they could have designed a better form , maybe give the route option instead?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:28 am

Rollingcabbage wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:21 am
hereorthere wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:48 am
Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!
i thought the same.

they could have designed a better form , maybe give the route option instead?
The route is irrelevant. The degree question is only relevant to meeting the English requirement, if applicable, as the form and guidance clearly state. HO really don't care about your qualifications for the purpose of citizenship.
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What counts as "application received by the Home Office"

Post by Annavivas » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:40 pm

Hi all,

I am an EU citizen with permanent residency since 2016 applying for naturalisation. I am trying to figure out when I can submit my application. The Guide AN Naturalisation booklet states:

"You must have been physically present in England, Wales, Scotland, Northern
Ireland, the Isle of Man or the Channel Islands on the day 5 years before the
application is received by the Home Office
".

Back in Autumn 2014 I travelled quite a lot for work and was in and out of country. Not to breach the above rule I have to figure out if "application is received by the Home Office" is when I submit my online application, or the moment I attend the UKVCAS appointment to enrol biometrics etc.

Could anyone help with this please?

Thanks!

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Re: What counts as "application received by the Home Office"

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:23 pm

Annavivas wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:40 pm
Hi all,

I am an EU citizen with permanent residency since 2016 applying for naturalisation. I am trying to figure out when I can submit my application. The Guide AN Naturalisation booklet states:

"You must have been physically present in England, Wales, Scotland, Northern
Ireland, the Isle of Man or the Channel Islands on the day 5 years before the
application is received by the Home Office
".

Back in Autumn 2014 I travelled quite a lot for work and was in and out of country. Not to breach the above rule I have to figure out if "application is received by the Home Office" is when I submit my online application, or the moment I attend the UKVCAS appointment to enrol biometrics etc.

Could anyone help with this please?

Thanks!
Your date of application is the date you submit and pay online. The appointment is for biometrics.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Ity699 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:35 pm

I have an appointment in a weeks time to submit biometrics through the new system and have paid for online scanning, all my paper based evidence will easily be uploaded. But I wanted to know how out passports will be scanned will it be everypage as it states need provide evidence of entry and exits stamps or should i photocopy everypage of both passports beforehand so they could scan in

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