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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:35 am

tier2genmisery wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:26 am
CR001 wrote:
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Ancestor wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:50 pm


The local authority where you have booked your NDRS +JCAP appointment will specify how many photo's you need. My understanding per my booked appointment says the following:-

"• The photographs submitted with Nationality and Passport applications (3 in total) must be identical (i.e. from the same sitting) and comply with the photo standards as described in the accompanying guidance. The applicant’s name should be written on the back of one photograph."

"• Applicants should complete sections 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 (if applicable) and 9 of the passport application form. You do not need to complete section 10 or have your 2 photographs certified as details of referees will be collected as part of your citizenship application."
Do we need to provide grandparents details on this form? pretty confused about that
NO!
You know that on the passport form it clearly asks for grandparents details right?
Also, I just called HMs passport office to ask and they said yes that is required.
But if you look at Wandsworth council website it says it is not required... However couldn't find that info on any other councils website...
http://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/jcap
I and many others, have clearly been through the process already. Grandparent details are NOT required for applicants who are naturalised British citizens, as has been stated 100s of times on the forum. The same passport form is used for EVERYONE, naturalised, British born etc. Grandparents details are required for those claiming British citizenship through British parents/grandparents etc.

The passport guidance notes CLEARLY states :

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ce_v24.pdf
About grandparents:
If the applicant’s parents were born on or after 1 January 1983, you will also need to provide evidence of grandparents’ claim to British nationality by providing their birth certificates and, in the case of grandfathers, their marriage certificates.

This does not apply if:
Ÿ the applicants parents’ British nationality is based on registration, naturalisation or their immigration status,
or
Ÿ the applicant has provided the British passport number for parents’ in Section 4 of the application form.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Fffv » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:46 pm

Hi ! I have completed my online application form and I have all the necessary documents sorted and ready to go.
I'm using the NCS so I have to wait a few weeks before submitting it.

There's one question that i'm not to sure of:

"Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?"
Does the application for the RESIDENCE CARD counts ?

Thank You!

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:53 pm

Fffv wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:46 pm
Hi ! I have completed my online application form and I have all the necessary documents sorted and ready to go.
I'm using the NCS so I have to wait a few weeks before submitting it.

There's one question that i'm not to sure of:

"Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?"
Does the application for the RESIDENCE CARD counts ?

Thank You!
Any and all applications you have made to the home office
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Ancestor » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:12 pm

Fffv wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:46 pm
Hi ! I have completed my online application form and I have all the necessary documents sorted and ready to go.
I'm using the NCS so I have to wait a few weeks before submitting it.
I see CR001 has answered your question, just wanted to ask you a quick question, are you using NCS or NDRS, surely must be NDRS with Online Application if my understanding is correct?

Reason I am asking, I see some have had issues printing out the Reference pages of the Online Application sometime prior to submission? Just wondering if you have had any such issues, or have you successfully been able to print out to get signed prior to submitting in "a few weeks"?

Thanks. 👍

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Fffv » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:32 pm

CR001 wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:53 pm
Fffv wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:46 pm
Hi ! I have completed my online application form and I have all the necessary documents sorted and ready to go.
I'm using the NCS so I have to wait a few weeks before submitting it.

There's one question that i'm not to sure of:

"Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?"
Does the application for the RESIDENCE CARD counts ?

Thank You!
Any and all applications you have made to the home office

Thank you for the quick reply. I have rang the home office about this question and I didn't get a clear answer. I've also questioned different people and they all seem to have different opinions. I'm a European citizen and my first contact with the Home Office was, in fact, to apply for the residence card.
Im very unsure about this question :o
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Fffv » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:36 pm

Ancestor wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:12 pm
Fffv wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:46 pm
Hi ! I have completed my online application form and I have all the necessary documents sorted and ready to go.
I'm using the NCS so I have to wait a few weeks before submitting it.
I see CR001 has answered your question, just wanted to ask you a quick question, are you using NCS or NDRS, surely must be NDRS with Online Application if my understanding is correct?

Reason I am asking, I see some have had issues printing out the Reference pages of the Online Application sometime prior to submission? Just wondering if you have had any such issues, or have you successfully been able to print out to get signed prior to submitting in "a few weeks"?

Thanks. 👍
I'm using the national documents return service. I was able to print them out at an earlier stage. I haven't submitted my application form yet, because of the "10 day rule".
But apparently you will also be giving the option to print them out after u submit the application form. :D

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Ancestor » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:57 pm

Fffv wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:36 pm
Ancestor wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:12 pm
Fffv wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:46 pm
Hi ! I have completed my online application form and I have all the necessary documents sorted and ready to go.
I'm using the NCS so I have to wait a few weeks before submitting it.
I see CR001 has answered your question, just wanted to ask you a quick question, are you using NCS or NDRS, surely must be NDRS with Online Application if my understanding is correct?

Reason I am asking, I see some have had issues printing out the Reference pages of the Online Application sometime prior to submission? Just wondering if you have had any such issues, or have you successfully been able to print out to get signed prior to submitting in "a few weeks"?

Thanks. 👍
I'm using the national documents return service. I was able to print them out at an earlier stage. I haven't submitted my application form yet, because of the "10 day rule".
But apparently you will also be giving the option to print them out after u submit the application form. :D
Thank you Fffv and no issues whatsoever as some have had, good to know. Did you print them prior to completing all the info for the online document after filling that Reference info in, or after completing all the info BUT obviously before and you haven't submitted as yet?

Thank you.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Naveed24 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:03 am

Hi. I would like to ask about online application. I’ve completed mine but when I log in back it shows me step 6 where payment details were shown and at the bottom it’s says go to next step
and then I click on save and go to next. Afterwards it’s says print out the check list and biometric letter and then at the bottom it shows sign out. I’m confused as almost all people have received auto email of acknowledgement but I have never received any and whenever I log back in it’s always show me step 6 where it says you have more steps before it completes but I can’t do nothing. Is it normal or some glitch where I stuck in between before completion of application?

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by dadageer » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:18 pm

HI, I have recently submitted my wife's application and I think the online application was quite smooth. You may have missed something so go through the application again and see if you have checked all boxes, decalration etc. Have you paid the fee as well and did you receive an email with Case Id?
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Naveed24 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:45 am

dadageer wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:18 pm
HI, I have recently submitted my wife's application and I think the online application was quite smooth. You may have missed something so go through the application again and see if you have checked all boxes, decalration etc. Have you paid the fee as well and did you receive an email with Case Id?
My form is fully completed and now I can’t make any changes as it doesn’t allow me. Yes I have made payment and I received payment successful email too. But I have never received any confirmation email or email with case id.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Anooshith » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:39 am

Hi All,

I have applied on 17th of June by using NDRS + JCAP. sent my documents on 20th June. i have notices that the passport office taken payment from my account on 27th July. is this mean the application approved? will i receive the approval letter soon?
i am so existed !!!!!

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:32 am

Anooshith wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:39 am
Hi All,

I have applied on 17th of June by using NDRS + JCAP. sent my documents on 20th June. i have notices that the passport office taken payment from my account on 27th July. is this mean the application approved? will i receive the approval letter soon?
i am so existed !!!!!

Thank you
Taking passport fee is not an indication of approval.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by iqkhanuk » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:51 am

Hi All

I am in process of applying online Form AN.

1 Is the online applicaton is the joint applicaiton for Citizenship and Passport? I cant find Birtish Passport Application online.

2 Do I need to use Nationality document return service via council to keep the documents. Or Do I have to send all docs anyway later stage. In that case no need to use this service.

3 Can someone who have applied online post the steps. Its bit confusing. Do I have to send all original docs witin 10 days to HO with BRP.

Is there a checklist for online application


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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:15 pm

iqkhanuk wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:51 am
Hi All

I am in process of applying online Form AN.

1 Is the online applicaton is the joint applicaiton for Citizenship and Passport? I cant find Birtish Passport Application online. You cannot use the online passport form if you are applying for citizenship and passport joint application. You must use the paper form you get at the Post Office.

2 Do I need to use Nationality document return service via council to keep the documents. Or Do I have to send all docs anyway later stage. In that case no need to use this service. Yes if you want to keep your original documents then you use NDRS. If you post it yourself, you have to send your originals.

3 Can someone who have applied online post the steps. Its bit confusing. Do I have to send all original docs witin 10 days to HO with BRP. Have you read through this topic and researched the forum???

Is there a checklist for online application Yes, at the end of your application. Read this topic and search the forum, answered many times already. Read the AN guidance notes and Booklet too.


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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Catriona » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:30 pm

Hello guys.

I'm completing AN online application form and just have a quick question regarding references.

My first reference is a college friend who is British National (naturalised last year) and over 25 yo, second reference is a Polish national and she is a Bank Manager (TSB Bank). Both know me personally for over three years and have no criminal convictions.

Please can someone advise whether these references would be suitable for AN application?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Kind regards
Kate

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Ancestor » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:40 pm

Catriona wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:30 pm
Hello guys.

I'm completing AN online application form and just have a quick question regarding references.

My first reference is a college friend who is British National (naturalised last year) and over 25 yo, second reference is a Polish national and she is a Bank Manager (TSB Bank). Both know me personally for over three years and have no criminal convictions.

Please can someone advise whether these references would be suitable for AN application?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Kind regards
Kate
My understanding is both should be fine, a Bank Manager is on the accepted professions and can be any Nationality and the other Non-profession Referee has to be a British National, so should be no problem.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by RK3285 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:21 pm

Hi,

Has a law changed on applying for nationality? Do we have to be in UK for 10 years??

Thanks

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Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:43 pm

RK3285 wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:21 pm
Hi,

Has a law changed on applying for nationality? Do we have to be in UK for 10 years??

Thanks
No it has NOT!!

Why do you 'assume' you have to be in the UK for 10 years???
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by clear9 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:38 pm

I will be applying for a British passport at the same time of my NDRS appointment.

The payment form asks me to write in the fee that I am paying. Will the fee be £75.50 (online application) or £85 (paper application)? I assume it will be the latter?

Many thanks for your help,
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:42 pm

clear9 wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:38 pm
I will be applying for a British passport at the same time of my NDRS appointment.

The payment form asks me to write in the fee that I am paying. Will the fee be £75.50 (online application) or £85 (paper application)? I assume it will be the latter?

Many thanks for your help,
Clear9
The passport payment sheet is the paper one you get from Post Office. You cannot use the online passport application form for the joint citizen/passport application scheme.
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Post by clear9 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:19 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:42 pm
clear9 wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:38 pm
I will be applying for a British passport at the same time of my NDRS appointment.

The payment form asks me to write in the fee that I am paying. Will the fee be £75.50 (online application) or £85 (paper application)? I assume it will be the latter?

Many thanks for your help,
Clear9
The passport payment sheet is the paper one you get from Post Office. You cannot use the online passport application form for the joint citizen/passport application scheme.
As always, thank you for the clarification--it is much appreciated.

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Post by Adamantium » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:28 am

Ancestor wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:50 pm
Adamantium wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:09 pm
Just a quick question, I'll be using NDRS+JCAP and I'm not sure how many photographs overall I need. 2 photos on referee declarations and additional 3 photos signed?
The local authority where you have booked your NDRS +JCAP appointment will specify how many photo's you need. My understanding per my booked appointment says the following:-

"• The photographs submitted with Nationality and Passport applications (3 in total) must be identical (i.e. from the same sitting) and comply with the photo standards as described in the accompanying guidance. The applicant’s name should be written on the back of one photograph."

"• Applicants should complete sections 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 (if applicable) and 9 of the passport application form. You do not need to complete section 10 or have your 2 photographs certified as details of referees will be collected as part of your citizenship application."
Thanks. They only took 2 pictures. I've submitted my application on the 25th of July and it's a waiting game now :)

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Ancestor » Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:19 pm

Adamantium wrote:
Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:28 am
Ancestor wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:50 pm
Adamantium wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:09 pm
Just a quick question, I'll be using NDRS+JCAP and I'm not sure how many photographs overall I need. 2 photos on referee declarations and additional 3 photos signed?
The local authority where you have booked your NDRS +JCAP appointment will specify how many photo's you need. My understanding per my booked appointment says the following:-

"• The photographs submitted with Nationality and Passport applications (3 in total) must be identical (i.e. from the same sitting) and comply with the photo standards as described in the accompanying guidance. The applicant’s name should be written on the back of one photograph."

"• Applicants should complete sections 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 (if applicable) and 9 of the passport application form. You do not need to complete section 10 or have your 2 photographs certified as details of referees will be collected as part of your citizenship application."
Thanks. They only took 2 pictures. I've submitted my application on the 25th of July and it's a waiting game now :)
Hi Adamantium,

Thanks for the update, good to know, I will take the 3 that my Local Council has requested I take.

Just started filling in the Online Application, could I ask you some info please, just curious to know what you filled in Online for the Referees per my Topic I posted:-

british-citizenship/professional-refere ... l#p1666028

Appreciated if you could give me some feedback, having completed your Application Online.

Don't want to re-post and make trouble. :)

Thanking you,

Cheers

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Dsam06 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:50 pm

Hi guys,

Should I use the online application for naturalisation and another application for passport ??
Or can I use the online application for joint application ?

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Post by Ancestor » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:55 pm

Dsam06 wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:50 pm
Hi guys,

Should I use the online application for naturalisation and another application for passport ??
Or can I use the online application for joint application ?

Many thanks
Online for Naturalisation and Paper passport form from Post Office. If doing NDRS appointment, you hand documents and Passport Application in at your Local Council appointment.

The Online Passport application is only for Renewal is my understanding.

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