change brc issued under eea to eu settlement

[imbik]

Oh dear! Thanks for the explanation and info anyway. Although, I do not think I can get them in 3 months time but I will apply for the new cards immediately. Cheers kamoe.

[soyerlife]

Hello everyone,
What if I don't apply to change my brc and keep the one under eu law with a settled status? Will it be invalid after 21.06.2021 ? Means I cannot travel or re enter uk with it ?
Overall ,what's the point of doing this if I was granted a settlment status ? Why home office ask you if you want to go ahead with your application after you submit it ? Don't think it's a mandatory thing ?

Thanks for your help

[Ballackmo]

Oh dear! Thanks for the explanation and info anyway. Although, I do not think I can get them in 3 months time but I will apply for the new cards immediately. Cheers kamoe.

You don’t need the new card if you already have a status... it’s only a wish if you want to change the card.. other than that you should be fine,Dong worry about the new card

[kamoe]

Oh dear! Thanks for the explanation and info anyway. Although, I do not think I can get them in 3 months time but I will apply for the new cards immediately. Cheers kamoe.

You don’t need the new card if you already have a status... it’s only a wish if you want to change the card.. other than that you should be fine,Dong worry about the new card

That's only the case if you are not planning on traveling abroad ever, which is true for some people.

But @imbik needs to travel. They need a new card.

It has been widely documented, e.g. in the post and article I shared in my previous answer, that electronic status is NOT a guarantee to be allowed to travel back into the UK.

[kamoe]

Hello everyone,
What if I don't apply to change my brc and keep the one under eu law with a settled status? Will it be invalid after 21.06.2021 ?

Yes. It will be invalid after that day, so this strategy only works until then.

Means I cannot travel or re enter uk with it ?

Correct. Not after June 30th 2021.

Overall ,what's the point of doing this if I was granted a settlment status ?

Some people don't need a physical card, for example, if they never travel abroad. Wild guess is it's cost-effective to only process cards to those who ask for it. Not saying I agree, just that's what seems to be the rationale of the Home Office.

As above. There is a difference between legally mandatory and purely practical. You won't be illegal without it... But you won't be able to travel.

[soyerlife]

Thanks Kamoe,
Really clear and detailed

[mkhan2525]

I asked the EU settlement help line about EU residence cards being valid post June 2021 and they said it was as long as status under the EU settlement scheme is granted. This make sense as they don't seem to be issuing EU settlement scheme residence cards to those who already have one issued under the EU freemovement directive. Therefore it's not necessary to change your residence card but to prevent any potential issues on re-entering the UK, it may be better to apply to replace it.

[Ballackmo]

I asked the EU settlement help line about EU residence cards being valid post June 2021 and they said it was as long as status under the EU settlement scheme is granted. This make sense as they don't seem to be issuing EU settlement scheme residence cards to those who already have one issued under the EU freemovement directive. Therefore it's not necessary to change your residence card but to prevent any potential issues on re-entering the UK, it may be better to apply to replace it.

That’s right

[soyerlife]

Hello
So now I submitted my documents on sopra steria , do I need to book am apointment for biometric ? Is my application in process or not yet ? Will I have a decision letter before submitting biometrics?

[kamoe]

I asked the EU settlement help line about EU residence cards being valid post June 2021 and they said it was as long as status under the EU settlement scheme is granted.

This brings back bad memories from my own research last year. In general I find the advise of the EU Resolution centre quite narrow, incomplete, and contradictory, and I always take it with a pinch of salt.

That being said, by all means you did what was appropriate by reaching out and ask. This might have improved and what they say this time might be actually accurate?

This make sense as they don't seem to be issuing EU settlement scheme residence cards to those who already have one issued under the EU freemovement directive.

Keep in mind you can always apply to convert the card afterwards. This only means the change of card is not legally necessary to live and work in the UK, but does not mean you will never need the new card (for traveling for example).

Therefore it's not necessary to change your residence card

As per rationale above, the fact that you do not get automatically a card is not a logical conclusion, or a guarantee, that you will never need the card.

but to prevent any potential issues on re-entering the UK, it may be better to apply to replace it.

Agree 100%

[Mugen]

I agree with kamoe on this one. I've heard many, many, many stories when HO staff didn't know what they talking about and was actually correcting officer at the border on my rights when she tried to make things difficult for me. Better to pay those scamers from SS for biometrics, than on your way back home(with full bags and crying kids) to be denied of entry.

Hello
So now I submitted my documents on sopra steria , do I need to book am apointment for biometric ? Is my application in process or not yet ? Will I have a decision letter before submitting biometrics?

Your application will go ahead only after you submit biometrics.

[Sidali42]

Hi guys
I just did my biometric to update my card under the eu settlement my card is expiring in 10/22
The new card they will send will be in the same expiry date? .

Thanks

[Ballackmo]

Hi guys
I just did my biometric to update my card under the eu settlement my card is expiring in 10/22
The new card they will send will be in the same expiry date? .

Thanks

No

[Sidali42]

So it will be another 5 years ? And can I apply for the settlement after one year ?

[TerryGH]

Hi guys
I just did my biometric to update my card under the eu settlement my card is expiring in 10/22
The new card they will send will be in the same expiry date? .

Thanks

How is that possible to have a BRP under the EU Settlement Scheme which expires in 2022? I thought they're all issued for 5 years exactly, and HO started issuing them in 2019 only. So the earliest expiry date should be in 2024?

[CR001]

Hi guys
I just did my biometric to update my card under the eu settlement my card is expiring in 10/22
The new card they will send will be in the same expiry date? .

Thanks

How is that possible to have a BRP under the EU Settlement Scheme which expires in 2022? I thought they're all issued for 5 years exactly, and HO started issuing them in 2019 only. So the earliest expiry date should be in 2024?

Appears the user has the EEA RC issued in 2017, therefore expiring in 2022.

eea-route-applications/eea-fm-eea2-time ... l#p1562084

[qazqwer333]

Good evening ,
Today I received email from APAD that my card is on the way.
My time is as below
Applied : 25th Jan 2021
Fingure prints : 9 feb 2021
APAD mail received : 16 March 2021
Card : waiting

Hi
Can u tell us the new BRC card validity is for how long they issued.
Is the same date or different then the old card (EEA BRC).

[Ballackmo]

So it will be another 5 years ? And can I apply for the settlement after one year ?

You can apply after one year

[chriskv1]

This page (https://www.gov.uk/uk-residence-card) clearly says : You can no longer apply for a UK residence card. If you already have a card, it will not be valid after 30 June 2021.

[kamoe]

This page (https://www.gov.uk/uk-residence-card) clearly says : You can no longer apply for a UK residence card. If you already have a card, it will not be valid after 30 June 2021.

I don't think they are talking about EEA RC, but EUSS.

[Euge]

Dear members,My wife has a old brc under Eu family member, she applied for presettle status on 2019. Before married me on 2017 she had a working visa brc on 2016 . She applied for settle status 1 week ago they gave her again a presettle status,the reason is because they said: she needs to have 5 years of marriage with me ,soo from 2017 ..I was surprised honestly.They said to reapply on 2022 but the scheme will end on 30/06/2021 .. I don’t know next year how to apply for settle status if the scheme is not open.I have 2 questions:
1 : her old brc card EU family members is valid for travel until the expiry date 2023? Or she has to change on the settlement scheme ?
2 : when she applied from presettle status to settle status they didn’t let her upgrade on settle status and they gave her again presettle status again until 2025 ,we need to wait again 5 years? Or we can reapply next year?? And how if the scheme will end in 30/06/2021

[yulis_uk]

Just posting my timeline for replacing BRC issued under the EEA regulations to a BRC issued under the EU Settlement SchemeScheme:

09.02.2021: Submit online application via GOV UK
05.03.2021: Appointment with SopraSteria UKVCAS for Biometrics Collection
12.04.2021: Email confirmation from APAD HO - that BRC replacement card will be delivered within 7 working days

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My UK immigration journey and timeline:
xx.06.2015: Applied UK Standard Visit
21.07.2015: UK Standard Visit Visa Refusal
xx.08.2015: Applied EEA FP
02.09.2015: EEA FP Issued
xx.02.2016: Applied EEA BRC
22.03.2016: COA received
18.03.2016: Submit Biometric for EEA BRC
27.08.2016: Received EEA BRC
14.04.2019: Applied to EU Settlement Scheme and Reveived COA online (pre-settled)
19.04.2019: Received Limited Leave in the United Kingdom or Pre-settled Status
01.25.2019: Applied to EU Settlement Scheme and Reveived COA online (settled)
09.02.2019: Received Indefinite Leave to Remain in the United Kingdom or Settled Status
09.02.2021: Applied online application for replacing BRC issued under the EEA regulations to a BRC issued under the EU Settlement SchemeScheme via GOV UK
05.03.2021: Appointment with SopraSteria UKVCAS for Biometrics Collection
12.04.2021: Email confirmation from APAD HO - that BRC replacement card will be delivered within 7 working days

[yulis_uk]

Dear members,My wife has a old brc under Eu family member, she applied for presettle status on 2019. Before married me on 2017 she had a working visa brc on 2016 . She applied for settle status 1 week ago they gave her again a presettle status,the reason is because they said: she needs to have 5 years of marriage with me ,soo from 2017 ..I was surprised honestly.They said to reapply on 2022 but the scheme will end on 30/06/2021 .. I don’t know next year how to apply for settle status if the scheme is not open.I have 2 questions:
1 : her old brc card EU family members is valid for travel until the expiry date 2023? Or she has to change on the settlement scheme ?
2 : when she applied from presettle status to settle status they didn’t let her upgrade on settle status and they gave her again presettle status again until 2025 ,we need to wait again 5 years? Or we can reapply next year?? And how if the scheme will end in 30/06/2021

Hi Euge,
1. your wife has to live 5 years under pre-settled status or previously under EEA family member in order to be qualified for settled status (EU Settlement Scheme). Year 2016 was not counted as she lived in the UK with Working Visa not. The GOV site is quite vague on this. If you believe that there has been a mistake on their's end, you could apply for an administrative review via HERE
2. Your wife would be qualified for Settled Status under EU Settlement Scheme in 2022, assuming that she got married to you in 2017 and she has been granted pre-settled status or previously under EEA family member.
3. her old brc card EU family members is valid for travel until the expiry date 2023? [to be on the safe side, I would suggest to replace her biometric card to the BRC under EU settlement scheme. Rumor said you don't need to as employer or any other relevant parties can check the status online and her BRC under EU still valid thru 2023. However, I went on the safe side to have a physical evidence as it will be handy that everything is reflected to the actual status, i.e for travelling abroad. It's free and straight forward process.]
4. when she applied from presettle status to settle status they didn’t let her upgrade on settle status and they gave her again presettle status again until 2025 ,we need to wait again 5 years? Or we can reapply next year?? And how if the scheme will end in 30/06/2021 [The Scheme is ended by 30.06.2021 however, it does not mean that transfer status to settle status is closed, this is clearly explain in HERE. Quoted from the site: You came to the UK on 2 March 2018 and got pre-settled status on 15 January 2020. You will become eligible for settled status on 2 March 2023, after you’ve lived in the UK for 5 years. The latest you could apply for settled status is on 14 January 2025, just before your pre-settled status expires.]

[max121]

Is there anyone still waiting while they sent the online application in 2020?

It starts to get really frustrating to see people with an expiry date after mine (06.2020) getting their card way before me, while I made the application a few months before. It will be 5 months of wait soon... It's tough to understand the reason.

I sent an email to APAD, but they said to be patient, prioritising applications based on the expiry date... But reading the forum here, if it were the case, I'd have my card a few months ago.

[Bogdan1]

My wife applied in December and did her biometrics in January. We just got the card delivered today (we did send an email to APAD about a week ago but not sure if that helped or not) so that was about 4 months for us.

On a slightly different note, the email we received from APAD says that we should return the old BRC to them (not sure what's the address though - I presume the one in Bristol?). Do we really have to return the old one or can we just cut it into pieces? Feels like an unnecessary chore since they mentioned the card was already invalidated.