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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:39 pm

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Cohabitation documents are needed for yourself i.e. the dependent partner for the last 2 years from the date of application (counting backwards). Ideally from 3/4 different sources spread evenly through last 2 years i.e. every 3/4 months. Ideally in joint names, otherwise top it up with solo names with same address.
Dear Cullinan,

So that means i have to furnish my (dependant) cohabitation documents for the period from Dec/ Nov 2020 backwards to Dec/Nov 2018 . So some of the cohabitation documents are actually dated before the last grant of leave on 12/6/2019. Please confirm the period highlighted is correct.

The following are the cohabitation documents to be furnished:

1.Electricty bill (Dec/ Nov 2020 backwards to Dec/Nov 2018)- quarterly statements available -JOINT NAMES
2.Bank A- (Dec/ Nov 2020 backwards to Dec/Nov 2018)- to submit monthly statements for every 2 months- sole name of MAIN APPLICANT (Do i need to furnish this ?)
3.Bank B- (Dec/ Nov 2020 backwards to Dec/Nov 2018)- to submit monthly statements for every 2 months- sole name of MAIN APPLICANT (Do i need to furnish this ?)

4.Bank A- (Dec/ Nov 2020 backwards to Dec/Nov 2018)- to submit monthly statements for every 2 months- sole name of DEPENDANT
5.Bank B- (Dec/ Nov 2020 backwards to Dec/Nov 2018)- to submit monthly statements for every 2 months- sole name of DEPENDANT

6.Tenancy agreement for the period from 1/7/2019 to 30/6/2021 (signed by JOINT NAMES and the Landlord)
7.Tenancy agreement for the period from 1/1/2018 to 30/6/2019 (signed by JOINT NAMES and the Landlord)

That's all I have for the cohabitation documents. Could you comment on the above cohabitation docs and how are my chances ??

Thank you.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:51 pm

Point 2/3 ideally yes so it matches the same address with yourself.

You have enough. Yes you need from Dec 2018 - Dec 2020 even if your last grant or leave was whenever.


You can add council tax bills also (if you can), Sky Virgin contract bills? Mobile bills? NHS letters? Just to fill any gaps, otherwise you are okay.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:15 pm

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Point 2/3 ideally yes so it matches the same address with yourself.

You have enough. Yes you need from Dec 2018 - Dec 2020 even if your last grant or leave was whenever.


You can add council tax bills also (if you can), Sky Virgin contract bills? Mobile bills? NHS letters? Just to fill any gaps, otherwise you are okay.
Dear Cullinan,

Cohabitation documents are complete and ready! and THANK YOU for your effort and i am one step closer to the actually application.

I have finished drafting the cover letter to HO and the content are as follows:

1.I addressed the letter to Home Office, The United Kingdom. Do I need to put down full address?
2.I mentioned 2 Jobs created with 2 full time employees (at least 130 hours per month), job title 1, name of employee, start date, job title 2, name of employee, start date.
3.In the letter, i ask them to refer to Appendix 1 for information about the Job Title and Descriptions for both the Tier -1 entrepreneur and employees.

4.I mentioned I would like to claim points for jobs created after the last grant of leave on 12 June 2019 and the hourly rates paid to the 2 full time employees can be summarised as follows:

A. for the period from 1 July 2019 to 31 Mar 2020
Name of employee: Staff 1, £8.21 per hour
Name of employee: Staff 2, £8.21 per hour

B. for the period from 1 Apr 2020 to 31 Dec 2020
Name of employee: Staff 1, £8.72 per hour
Name of employee: Staff 2, £8.72 per hour

5.RTI FPS and payslips for the 2 employees
Even though the requirement is to submit 12 months RTI FPS and payslips after the last grant of leave on 12 June 2019, I submitted 18 months of the said documents for the period from July 2019 to December 2020 for your considerations.

6. Furlough period from 13 Mar 2020 to 30 June 2020
I mentioned I am claiming points for the period when the 2 employees were furloughed as I complied with the rules of the UK Government furloughed scheme. They have been paid at least 80% of their normal salary and hence, the furloughed period will count towards the 12 month period.

The above rule is stated in Tier 1 (Entrepreneur)_Version 26.0, Page 89 of 117 Published for Home Office staff on 01 December 2020 under the heading of Job Creation: If the applicant holds leave as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) and their business has been impacted by the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

7.I will attached Appendix 1. The details are as follows:
7.1 Overview of business activities
7.2 Job title and descriptions for main applicant
7.3 Creation of two jobs positions and jobs descriptions

Please comment on the above content whether it is in line with the requirements of HO.

Thank you.

Kind regards

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:26 pm

Spot on. No address is needed. Simply state “Home Office.” Good luck.

Make sure you submit proof of employee’s settled status also. No need to mention it in the cover letter though.

Once you are done with the documents, I would like to go through them. Please list them here so I can check that also in due course.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:02 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:26 pm
Spot on. No address is needed. Simply state “Home Office.” Good luck.

Make sure you submit proof of employee’s settled status also. No need to mention it in the cover letter though.

Once you are done with the documents, I would like to go through them. Please list them here so I can check that also in due course.
Dear Cullinan,

A million thanks to you. The content of the cover letter is based on your advice and thank you for confirming that it is in order.

Regarding employee's settled status:
Yes, I have a get ready the 2 employees passport biometric page (i.e the info page) and their BRP.

Once everything is ready, i will list down all for your review....and thank you in advance.

By the way, do we need to submit the birth certificate and the marriage certificate ?


Thank you.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:06 pm

Yes. Better to submit as that will prove your relationship and children parental responsibility.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:20 pm

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Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:06 pm
Yes. Better to submit as that will prove your relationship and children parental responsibility.
Dear Cullinan,

Your points taken.

I will submit the original marriage certificate and the translated ones (by High Court of my country) dated 2015 meant for the initial Tier 1 application in 2015. Can I use the same translated copy ?

You mean I also have to submit birth certificates of the main applicant and myself ?

or what you mean is I have to submit the birth certificate of 18+ child 1 and Child 2 in their respective accounts?

Thank you.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:35 pm

No originals are sent. Marriage certificate will be uploaded. Yes same translation is okay.

Children birth certificates in their accounts (not you or your wife.)
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:40 pm

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Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:35 pm
No originals are sent. Marriage certificate will be uploaded. Yes same translation is okay.

Children birth certificates in their accounts (not you or your wife.)
Dear Cullinan,

Cullinan: No originals are sent. Marriage certificate will be uploaded. Yes same translation is okay.
Ben: Yes, points taken. I meant i will upload the Marriage Certificate in original language and the translated copy dated 2015.

Noted your comment on Children birth certificates. This should be uploaded in their own accounts.

Thank you so much

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:45 pm

Dear Cullinan,

A continuation from previous message....

And NO NEED to submit the birth certificates of both the main applicant and the spouse dependant. Correct?

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CR001 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:57 pm

benhuang wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:45 pm
Dear Cullinan,

A continuation from previous message....

And NO NEED to submit the birth certificates of both the main applicant and the spouse dependant. Correct?

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:58 pm

I think @CR001 meant correct as “no.”
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:17 pm

Dear Cullinan/ CR001,

Thank you both for the clarifications.

OK noted, NO NEED to submit birth certificates of both the main applicant and the dependant spouse.

The compilation of documents for both the main applicant and dependant spouse is now COMPLETED.

I am now compiling the documents for the 18+child 1 and Child 2 and I will revert to this forum shortly.

Thank you.

Kind regards

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:20 pm

Dear Cullinan,

Regarding the children Set (O) account, here are some of the clarifications I need from you:

1.Hand phone number
You have clarified this point before. You said they are 18+ children and hence, they should use their own email and phone number. I will use their own email address for easy monitoring purposes. However, I may wish to use the main applicant's handphone number because the kids seldom answer their phone. My concern is they may miss the HO call.

The second point is if i used the main applicant's phone number, that would imply they are not leading to an independent life.

What is your opinion on this ?

2.Regarding the person the kids are joining or accompanying section, one of the question is "do you have your their Home Office reference number"?
Since the main applicant and the dependant spouse will submit the application first and therefore, we should have application reference number for the kids Set (O). So my answer is YES to the above question. Please confirm I am correct.

3.Who is responsible for your upbringing? and Who do you normally live with?
I put both the main applicant (wife) AND spouse dependant (myself). Please confirm I am correct.

4.How many days, weeks, months or years have you lived at this address in UK?
We only lived in one address since we first enter UK on 7/1/2016. AT the time of submission (will be this few days), it will be kind of 59 months++ until Dec2020, but i still filled up "5 years" because we can apply within 28days of 5 years anniversary.
Please confirm I am correct.

Thank you.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:38 pm

benhuang wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:20 pm
Dear Cullinan,

Regarding the children Set (O) account, here are some of the clarifications I need from you:

1.Hand phone number
You have clarified this point before. You said they are 18+ children and hence, they should use their own email and phone number. I will use their own email address for easy monitoring purposes. However, I may wish to use the main applicant's handphone number because the kids seldom answer their phone. My concern is they may miss the HO call.

The second point is if i used the main applicant's phone number, that would imply they are not leading to an independent life.
HO rarely calls in this case but you can use any number and NO to second question

What is your opinion on this ?

2.Regarding the person the kids are joining or accompanying section, one of the question is "do you have your their Home Office reference number"?
Since the main applicant and the dependant spouse will submit the application first and therefore, we should have application reference number for the kids Set (O). So my answer is YES to the above question. Please confirm I am correct.
This question is for the children. The HO reference number is for the main applicant they are joining. Could be any previous HO Case ID, UAN or BRP number. This is an “if known” question

3.Who is responsible for your upbringing? and Who do you normally live with?
I put both the main applicant (wife) AND spouse dependant (myself). Please confirm I am correct.
Correct

4.How many days, weeks, months or years have you lived at this address in UK?
We only lived in one address since we first enter UK on 7/1/2016. AT the time of submission (will be this few days), it will be kind of 59 months++ until Dec2020, but i still filled up "5 years" because we can apply within 28days of 5 years anniversary.
Please confirm I am correct.
Estimate to 5 years is fine also. This question has no relevance to the concession period though. HO knows the rules that application can be made within 28 days before

Thank you.

Kind regards

Ben
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:14 pm

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Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:38 pm
benhuang wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:20 pm
Dear Cullinan,

Regarding the children Set (O) account, here are some of the clarifications I need from you:

1.Hand phone number
You have clarified this point before. You said they are 18+ children and hence, they should use their own email and phone number. I will use their own email address for easy monitoring purposes. However, I may wish to use the main applicant's handphone number because the kids seldom answer their phone. My concern is they may miss the HO call.

The second point is if i used the main applicant's phone number, that would imply they are not leading to an independent life.
HO rarely calls in this case but you can use any number and NO to second question

What is your opinion on this ?

2.Regarding the person the kids are joining or accompanying section, one of the question is "do you have your their Home Office reference number"?
Since the main applicant and the dependant spouse will submit the application first and therefore, we should have application reference number for the kids Set (O). So my answer is YES to the above question. Please confirm I am correct.
This question is for the children. The HO reference number is for the main applicant they are joining. Could be any previous HO Case ID, UAN or BRP number. This is an “if known” question

3.Who is responsible for your upbringing? and Who do you normally live with?
I put both the main applicant (wife) AND spouse dependant (myself). Please confirm I am correct.
Correct

4.How many days, weeks, months or years have you lived at this address in UK?
We only lived in one address since we first enter UK on 7/1/2016. AT the time of submission (will be this few days), it will be kind of 59 months++ until Dec2020, but i still filled up "5 years" because we can apply within 28days of 5 years anniversary.
Please confirm I am correct.
Estimate to 5 years is fine also. This question has no relevance to the concession period though. HO knows the rules that application can be made within 28 days before

Thank you.

Kind regards

Ben
Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your comments.

Qn1 above is clear and i have no further queries.

Qn2The question is about the person the 18+child is joining. i.e the 18+child will be joining the main applicant (my wife). So, I think, the next question is asking for the main applicant HO reference number to be stated in the 18+Child Set (O), correct?. My question is, can I use the main applicant ILR application reference number (after submission is done) to fill up as the HO reference number or I should use the main applicant's BRP number to fill up ?

Qn3 above is clear and i have no further queries.

Qn4.Your points are noted. So fill up as 59months or 5 years, it does not really matters.
Then I will fill up 59months (until Dec2020) and it is understood that we all would have lived in this same address for 5 years until 7/1/2021 (anniversary date).

Thank you.

Regards

Ben

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:40 pm

2) Yes

4) Correct
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:29 pm

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2) Yes

4) Correct
Dear Cullinan,

2) Yes to BRP, ie You mean i should fill up this section with main applicant BRP number.


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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:35 pm

Main applicant’s BRP or UAN or Case ID. Anything is ok to answer it.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:44 pm

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Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:35 pm
Main applicant’s BRP or UAN or Case ID. Anything is ok to answer it.
Dear Cullinan,

Let me clarifies the following:

1.what is UAN stand for? Under what circumstances i would have the UAN number?

2.Case ID.
The main applicant will have a reference number after submission. Is this reference number the Case ID number ?

Thank you.

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Post by CULLINAN » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:46 pm

It can be ANY previous UAN/Case ID/Current BRP details. Just mention your wife’s current BRP details there.

UAN: Unique Application Reference Number is quoted on the PDF when you complete and submit your form after payment.

Case ID is mentioned on any official correspondence from HO.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:58 pm

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Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:46 pm
It can be ANY previous UAN/Case ID/Current BRP details. Just mention your wife’s current BRP details there.

UAN: Unique Application Reference Number is quoted on the PDF when you complete and submit your form after payment.

Case ID is mentioned on any official correspondence from HO.
Dear Cullinan,

Thank you.

Very clear message. I will use the current BRP number.

Regards

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:39 pm

benhuang wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:58 pm
CULLINAN wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:46 pm
It can be ANY previous UAN/Case ID/Current BRP details. Just mention your wife’s current BRP details there.

UAN: Unique Application Reference Number is quoted on the PDF when you complete and submit your form after payment.

Case ID is mentioned on any official correspondence from HO.
Dear Cullinan,

Thank you.

Very clear message. I will use the current BRP number.

Regards

Ben

Dear Cullinan,

Regarding 18+Child Set(O):
A check on "The person you are joining or accompanying" section, there is already one question on "Do you have their biometric residence permit (BRP) number". So I have already filled up the main applicant's BRP number.

So to the question "Do you have their Home Office reference number?" The answer should be NO as i do not have any previous UAN/Case ID. Please confirm i am correct?

Thank you.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:43 pm

“If known” question. BRP # alone is enough.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:08 pm

Dear Cullinan,

While waiting for your reply.

Regarding 18+Child Set(O):
I need further clarifications on consent documents when i fill up consent section as follows:

Question1: I will provide a declaration signed by me to confirm my consent for the Home Office to request verification checks (answer is YES),

Question2:Is the account with a bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation held jointly by you and other people?
(Answer is NO. Because all documents to be submitted by 18+ child will only be in his sole name, NO joint account and NO utility bill)

Question3: Does the account with the bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation relate to another person who is to provide you financial support?
(Answer is NO. Because all documents to be submitted by 18+ child will only be in his sole name, NO joint account and NO utility bill, and DONT HAVE any other documents relate to another person for financial support) .

Please confirm my answers are correct.

Thank you.

Regards

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