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Schengen Tourist visa for 2 visits within a 7/8 month period

Post by cs95tdg » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:28 pm

I have a question about whether I would be able to apply for a single "double entry" Schengen visa for the travel I have planned.

I'm planning to visit France for around 5 days in end of August this year & then visit the Netherlands for a week in March/April next year.

My question is, would I be able to apply for a Schengen visa which allows two entries to cover the two tourist trips or would I need to apply twice? The main reason for wanting to apply once is for convenience & because I may have other travel in-between.

From what I have seen, for tourism the maximum stay allowed for a single entry is 90 days. But does anyone know what the maximum validity period associated with a Schengen Tourist visa is?

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Post by ca.funke » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:55 pm

Maximum validity for Schengen-visas is 5 years. So "yes", you can apply for this.

If you apply for "double entry" you can only enter twice. If you have "other travel in-between", it should either be outside Schengen, or you will need "multiple entry" rather than "dual entry".

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Post by cs95tdg » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:35 pm

Thanks Christian. Knowing that UK visit/tourist visa's generally only have a 6 month validity period, I was wondering whether a similiar validity period would apply for Schengen Tourist visa's as well. But it's certainly good to hear that's not the case. My other travel will be outside Schengen, so dual entry should be fine.

Based on former experience, does anyone have a recommendation on which consulate (in London) to be the better to approach for my visa? - France vs. Netherlands. Both trips will be similar in duration, so I'm thinking I may have a choice of which Consulate to submit my application to.

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Post by ca.funke » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:17 am

cs95tdg wrote:Thanks Christian. Knowing that UK visit/tourist visa's generally only have a 6 month validity period, I was wondering whether a similiar validity period would apply for Schengen Tourist visa's as well. But it's certainly good to hear that's not the case. My other travel will be outside Schengen, so dual entry should be fine.
5 years is the theoretical maximum. Even if you apply for it, it´s in no way guaranteed that you will actually be issued with anything like that.
cs95tdg wrote:Based on former experience, does anyone have a recommendation on which consulate (in London) to be the better to approach for my visa? - France vs. Netherlands. Both trips will be similar in duration, so I'm thinking I may have a choice of which Consulate to submit my application to.
Officially, you have >>no choice<<. If your trips are equal in length, you have to apply with the country you enter first.

My tip: Do apply with France, as you want to go there first. Tell them you want to go to France twice, not mentioning the Netherlands.

Reason: Like this they will think "oh god, we may have to deal with this guy twice, so let´s just give him double entry".

If you talk about the Netherlands being your other destination, their reasoning will be: "Single entry, and we´re out of the loop. Next time he´ll have to deal with the Dutch, thus not our problem, thus single entry".

That´s what I would do.

Rgds and good luck,
Christian

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Post by cs95tdg » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:49 pm

ca.funke wrote:
cs95tdg wrote:Thanks Christian. Knowing that UK visit/tourist visa's generally only have a 6 month validity period, I was wondering whether a similiar validity period would apply for Schengen Tourist visa's as well. But it's certainly good to hear that's not the case. My other travel will be outside Schengen, so dual entry should be fine.
5 years is the theoretical maximum. Even if you apply for it, it´s in no way guaranteed that you will actually be issued with anything like that.
cs95tdg wrote:Based on former experience, does anyone have a recommendation on which consulate (in London) to be the better to approach for my visa? - France vs. Netherlands. Both trips will be similar in duration, so I'm thinking I may have a choice of which Consulate to submit my application to.
Officially, you have >>no choice<<. If your trips are equal in length, you have to apply with the country you enter first.

My tip: Do apply with France, as you want to go there first. Tell them you want to go to France twice, not mentioning the Netherlands.

Reason: Like this they will think "oh god, we may have to deal with this guy twice, so let´s just give him double entry".

If you talk about the Netherlands being your other destination, their reasoning will be: "Single entry, and we´re out of the loop. Next time he´ll have to deal with the Dutch, thus not our problem, thus single entry".

That´s what I would do.

Rgds and good luck,
Christian
Thanks for the information & tip.

Have been looking through the supporting documents required by the French consulate, and looking at the following I think there may be a problem in telling them that I want to go to France twice instead of France & then Holland. I.e. because of the evidence required below.

10. Hotel booking, copy
A reservation confirmation issued directly by the hotel clearly stating your full names, the dates of check-in and out, the hotel address and contact details. Hotel booking should cover the whole period of your stay.
11. Proof of travel, original
A confirmed return ticket to France (plane, ferry, bus, etc.) or booking fully paid from your travel agent

I can most probably get around the Hotel booking by making a second hotel booking in France which can then be cancelled. But for travel I will need to purchase a second train/airline ticket & possibly forfeit the fare because I intend to go directly to Netherlands the second time.

Unless I could get away without providing the travel ticket for the second trip. Any ideas as to whether this would be acceptable?

The last time I applied for a multiple entry schengen visa was quite a while ago, and in that case I had a Eurorail pass allowing travel across the entire Schengen region, so this aspect didn't come into the picture. I'm guessing the convenience of applying for a dual entry visa will come at a price.

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Post by ca.funke » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:11 pm

cs95tdg wrote:...I can most probably get around the Hotel booking...for travel I will need to purchase a second train/airline ticket & possibly forfeit the fare...
I always only provided a printout of an online hotel reservation system and an online flight reservation system, without actually booking.

They can never oblige you to book before you have the visa. What if the visa was refused? They may not bully you into forfeiting your money.

Just print out anything that might be indicative for your journey. I always did and never had a problem with the +- 20 Schengen applications I handled for my inlaws so far.

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Post by cs95tdg » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:34 pm

Thanks, I'll do that. I never really considered the possibility of a refusal here, as all my previous visa apps have always been approved. But I'm sure I should do, as I guess there can always be a first for everything!

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Post by cs95tdg » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:59 am

EDIT by moderator: flyrcdream wasn´t a legitimate poster, but just spamming the forum. I deleted his post, no need to think twice.
flyrcdream wrote:Netherlands. Both trips will be similar in duration, so I'm thinking I may have a choice of which Consulate to submit my application to.
I'm making a guess here that the question is which consulate you should submit your application to? I have made a similar statement in this topic, and the answer has already been given by Christian.

See below:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 2d7b0059bc

If your trips are equal in length, you have to apply with the country you enter first.

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