'own means of support': how much in Romania?

[Morrog]

Hi everyone,
i am a Belgian citizen thinking of moving to Romania for 1 year, to live with my girlfriend there.
As a EU citizen i know i am allowed to live in any other EU country for over 3 months, if i have sufficient means of support. However i cannot find how much this is exactly on a monthly basis for Romania. So far i haven't been able to get an answer from the embassy or the immigration office either.

Do any of you know how much it is?

The EURES website claims this is usually at the very least a minimum monthly income, and other websites (including the Romanian Office for Immigration) state that i need to prove this when i apply for the residency registration. But nowhere is the exact amount of money mentioned.
I must know this in order to know if there is even a chance of moving to Romania.

Also, i wonder if i go to Romania like this, i could find a job there and still be ok with all the paper work.

Thank you very much for any kind of useful information.

Kind regards,
Morrog

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

Do any of you know how much it is?

It is that level at which you can live on without needing assistance from the authorities. Naturally, that's going to vary as people's circumstances will be different, but in no case can the minimum amount set by the authorities exceed that level where they would refuse assistance to their own nationals.

Confused? Let's make a hypothetical example.

1. An EU citizen lives comfortably on her Eu300 per month pension. She lives rent free with friends.
2. Another EU citizen struggles on Eu 300 per month pension as her rent is Eu275 per month and has to seek assistance from the authorities to make ends meet.
3. A third EU citizen has no income, but has savings of Eu100 000. The threshold for help in the host member state is Eu50 000. They do not qualify for assistance as they have substantial savings.

All of our friends above have some form of health insurance.

Cases 1 and 3 are likely to be self-sufficient, case 2 might not be.

Note that Member States may have differences in practice, but the above illustrates the general principle.

[Morrog]

Yes, i get that. But i'm quite sure that member states don't exactly measure the own sufficient means of support on a case-by-case basis. Every state will have drawn some 'arbitrary' line to what they think is sufficient.
For instance in Belgium i know it is about 1250€ per month (which is high to be honest).

All i want to know is this number for Romania.

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

Yes, i get that. But i'm quite sure that member states don't exactly measure the own sufficient means of support on a case-by-case basis. Every state will have drawn some 'arbitrary' line to what they think is sufficient.
For instance in Belgium i know it is about 1250€ per month (which is high to be honest).

All i want to know is this number for Romania.

Ok, I don't think you got it yet, so let's try again.

There is no fixed level by which a member state can refuse residence. If you can survive on any amount without requiring social assistance, you have enough resources.

There is a level above which a member state cannot claim that the EU citizen does not have enough resources and that it the level at which social assistance kicks in.

Do you see the difference?

I don't know the number for Romania. Why not ask your friend to find out for you?

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

Please see link here. Open the document and read page 9.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 313:EN:NOT

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

Every state will have drawn some 'arbitrary' line to what they think is sufficient.
For instance in Belgium i know it is about 1250€ per month (which is high to be honest).

They can not do this. If done this is illegal.