EU with PR after a year outside uk, form filling query

[akawka]

Hello,
I would be very gratefull if someone could clarify what should we do regarding filling of the application form.
this is our situation in a nutshell:

we are EEC citizen of AA8
arrived in UK in Jul 2004, WRS received the same year
have been issued with the Residence Card in 2009 (the blue insert) that confirms our british resident status since 2004
have been away of UK for a year after received PermRes (we havent broken the residence status by that) so the total number of absences in the last 6 years is more than 450 days (about 590 but have read that when are residing in UK for more than 7 years this coul be disregarded)
now in 2012 we would like to apply for naturalisation

My questions are:
1. having the PermRes card (iss 2009) do I have to prove the addresses in the last 5 years, meaning 2006-2012 (to remind we have been away of UK in 2009/10 for a year and have an abroad address for that time, do I put it if so )or could we use the UK's correspondence address we left with ouf friends for that time?
2. similar question regarding the absences from UK: do I fill only last year absences (since Res Card proves us exercising Treaty rights) or the last 5 years period (2006-2012) anyway?

would appreciate any responses as are worried that may fail the application
Kind regards and thanks for help

[Jambo]

Whatever you proved for PR Confirmation is irrelevant to the naturalisation application. There are requirements you need to meet for naturalisation so you will need to provide the addresses for the past 5 years including abroad.

One of the standard requirements is to have less then 90 days outside the UK in the last year before applying. You clearly don't meet this requirement so I suggest you wait for 9 months (or until you have less than 90 days of absence in the 12 months prior to the application).

[akawka]

Whatever you proved for PR Confirmation is irrelevant to the naturalisation application. There are requirements you need to meet for naturalisation so you will need to provide the addresses for the past 5 years including abroad.

One of the standard requirements is to have less then 90 days outside the UK in the last year before applying. You clearly don't meet this requirement so I suggest you wait for 9 months (or until you have less than 90 days of absence in the 12 months prior to the application).

Hi,
Thank you for your reply
although the requirements for PRes and naturalisation are the same (except that Naturalisation requires one more year after obtaining PermRes) hence my question whethet I have to proove the same all over again
the years' absence was in 2009/10 so last year 2011 we are within the limits, thank you for pointing that

regarding the abroad address : what document confirming that would I have to provide? do I need to provide proof of each UK address too? I dont think I will have the utility bills for all of them for that period...

One more thing popped in my mind: the points 2.4 and 2.5 of the AN form, they actually ask for the same thing, do I, as an EEA, fill both of them then?

THANK YOU

[Jambo]

The requirements are not the same.

* PR requires you to exercise treaty rights in the UK. There is no requirement on your activities for naturalisation.

* PR allows you to be absent upto 6 months per year during the 5 years. Naturalisation requires less than 450 days in the 5 years.

* PR doesn't require life in the UK test. Naturalisation does.

* PR doesn't require good character. Naturalisation does.

There is no requirement to provide evidence for the addresses you provide in the form. Check the last page of the application form for the supporting documents required.

If you hold a PR Confirmation for more than 12 months, you can skip section 2.4-2.6. You also don't need to provide evidence of exercising treaty rights.

[akawka]

Hello!
thats a quick reply thanks

''There is no requirement to provide evidence for the addresses you provide in the form. Check the last page of the application form for the supporting documents required.[/quote]''

thank you for confirming that!

''If you hold a PR Confirmation for more than 12 months, you can skip section 2.4-2.6. You also don't need to provide evidence of exercising treaty rights.[/quote]''

yes, i have it since 2009 so its 3 years now, I was hoping to hear that (to make life easier ) although still confused as PR confirms only 5 years (not 6) and do I not need to confirm the period between 2009-1012? where did you get the above information from, please?

sorry if my questions become annoying...
thanks once more

[Jambo]

yes, i have it since 2009 so its 3 years now, I was hoping to hear that (to make life easier ) although still confused as PR confirms only 5 years (not 6) and do I not need to confirm the period between 2009-1012? where did you get the above information from, please?

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking? What do think that you need to confirm?

As I said in my first post, whatever you proved in your PR Conformation is irrelevant to the naturalisation application as the requirements are different. The only thing PR Confirmation proves is that you are free from immigration control which is one of the requirements for naturalisation.

Go over the requirements and see if you meet them. If you do, apply and use the last page of the application form as a guide for the supporting documents required.