help - still non wiser

[worrier]

Dear all,

I have asked this question before and have not yet received a reply. I wonder if anyone could help me


How is IS151A and IS151B etc different from letter giving 28days to leave the country

Does a letter giving 28days to leave the country automatically stop the clock for IRL based on 14 yrs rule

Thank you

[Jeff Albright]

How is IS151A and IS151B etc different from letter giving 28days to leave the country

IS151B is the notice to a person LIABLE to removal. This is not removal directions. This means that the subject will not necessarily be removed. It advises what appeal rights the person has. If however, the person concerned does not appeal, he/she will be required by law to leave the UK. It does not specify the time during which he/she has to leave but it principle he/she must do so within 28 days, after which removal directions (IS151D) may be given.

Does a letter giving 28days to leave the country automatically stop the clock for IRL based on 14 yrs rule

Correct. Once the IS151A and B have been received, this is your lucky day - now you are technically subject to removal for the rest of your life unless you do something about it - appeal for example, to have it cancelled or provide more relevant grounds to have it withdrawn by Immigration Service (it is very unlikely they will do it) or leave the UK voluntarily.

[worrier]

Thank you Jeff.

The letter that I received did not have IS151A and IS151B any where on the letter.

It simply says that my application have been reject and I do not have right to appeal because my visa had expired etc. and then goes on to say thatI do not have any basis for staying in the UK and had 28days to leave.
Should I assume then that this is the same as IS151A even though it (IS151A )is not written anywhere on the letter.

thanks

[Jeff Albright]

No this is not the same. Your application has been refused and you are asked to leave the country. This is probably the standard refusal letter.
IS151A and B are wholly different. They indicate an enforcement action in case of refusal of Asylum or Human Rights Claim. If you appeal on Human Rights (if you have grounds of course) then you will get that.

[worrier]

That's great.

In view of that, is it safe then to assume that my clock has not stopped for 14yrs application.
That is provided the HO has not sent out another removal order that I'm not aware of.

[seekinghelp]

I am writing this for Jeff, who is in a habit of threatning people with his knowledge about IS151A or B.

Just for his knowledge, A friend of mine who was administratively removed under IS151A for overstaying has got his Visa just yesterday.
So, a sincere request to all not to go by what Jeff says about IS151A.

People in this board ask questions bcoz they are not aware of some of the clauses or they need genuine advice and not threatning as always done by Jeff.